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Leftylol
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Rust wrote:
Just curious, but are there any theories that have to do with Slenderman and faces? Such as how Masky always wears a mask when he's acting like Masky and not Tim, and how Slenderman has no face of his own?


I don't think either really have that much of a connection, although thinking about it they're probably could be some reference to the fact that Slenderman is (as far as we are concerned) faceless and the mask imitates that in a way.

But generally speaking I don't believe the two have any significant connection, they only real way to determine that is by discovering what TiMasky is all about, why he is the way he is, that being his motives, whether he under the control of Slendy or if he had previous experiences with Slendy long before the events of the Entries.

For now you can try to think of your own theories, but personally I don't believe there's any connection

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 		I preface this by saying I haven't actually read the 35 thread yet. It's been a crazy week, and it popped up 30 pages in a couple of days... I got through the first six pages before having to stop, and I don't remember seeing this theory in those six pages, hurr.

Okay, so chatting about the entries and trying to come up with new theories, Dray and I thought of something that might be interesting to kick around for a bit. Now, I don't know that I believe this, but I think it'd be a cool way for things to go.

Alex probably isn't the Ark. His middle name doesn't start with an R, so he's certainly not A.R.K. However, wouldn't it be interesting if Tim for some reason THINKS he's the ark? What if Tim has come up with the concept of "the ark" to mean something he believes exists, but has no actual proof of? Something he made up? That would mean there's no particular specialness to Alex other than Tim's focus on him.

That said, in Entry #35, we see Tim knife Alex. If he thinks Alex is the ark, that would that attack imply? It would depend entirely on what Tim's motives are.

If Tim is allied with the Operator, then the Ark is something that thwarts the Operator in some form. This could be taken to mean that Alex's apparent escape from the Operator was enough to label him as "the Ark" and earn Tim's malevolence. If that's the case, Tim's motives seem only to destroy Alex out of anger or spite.

If Tim is working against the Operator, or trying to escape the Operator, then his attack on Alex would mean that the Ark would be something that the OPERATOR uses or benefits from. If Tim thinks that Alex is attracting the Operator, or holding him in this dimension, or goading him on or something, than it would make sense that he would think that Alex is "broken", and that killing Alex would get rid of the Operator.

And here's where I launch into complete conjecture and rampant speculation:

What if in the seven months, Tim DID kill Alex? The blood on the rock being Alex's, and the Operator being present when Jay finds it, that would mean that if Tim was trying to get rid of the Operator by killing Alex, he failed.

I think it would be so fucking cool (in a jerking-us-around-completely kind of way) if the Ark wasn't anything. If the Ark was something that crazy Tim came up with in the depths of his madness to give him a reason for these inexplicable horrors to be happening. I'm still of the opinion that Tim's pills are seizure pills, the Operator has an effect on electricity, and because seizure pills have the effect of inhibiting electrical activity in certain parts of the brain, they're the reason Tim seems to be aware of the Operator without losing his memory. However, because Tim can't get OFF the pills because of the pre-existing condition of, well, seizures, he's stuck in the Operator's world, unable to forget and go back to normal life like the others ended up doing, and the mask is a method of coping -- of segregating his "normal" life from the horror of knowing the Operator and being unable to forget. This all would mean that Tim is an antagonist for sure (in that he wants to fricking KILL ALEX), but that his motives are reasonable, understandable. However, it ALSO means that if the Ark is something he made up that isn't real, him killing Alex and then learning that that didn't make the Operator go away, he might become EVEN MORE dangerous -- he might, well, try killing other people. Like Jay. Or Jessica.

Or himself.

That is to say, we could take that a step further and say that maybe the Ark DOES exist, but that the Ark is in fact Tim -- because Tim cannot forget.

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JKatkina wrote:
And here's where I launch into complete conjecture and rampant speculation:

What if in the seven months, Tim DID kill Alex? The blood on the rock being Alex's, and the Operator being present when Jay finds it, that would mean that if Tim was trying to get rid of the Operator by killing Alex, he failed.

I think it would be so fucking cool (in a jerking-us-around-completely kind of way) if the Ark wasn't anything. If the Ark was something that crazy Tim came up with in the depths of his madness to give him a reason for these inexplicable horrors to be happening. I'm still of the opinion that Tim's pills are seizure pills, the Operator has an effect on electricity, and because seizure pills have the effect of inhibiting electrical activity in certain parts of the brain, they're the reason Tim seems to be aware of the Operator without losing his memory. However, because Tim can't get OFF the pills because of the pre-existing condition of, well, seizures, he's stuck in the Operator's world, unable to forget and go back to normal life like the others ended up doing, and the mask is a method of coping -- of segregating his "normal" life from the horror of knowing the Operator and being unable to forget. This all would mean that Tim is an antagonist for sure (in that he wants to fricking KILL ALEX), but that his motives are reasonable, understandable. However, it ALSO means that if the Ark is something he made up that isn't real, him killing Alex and then learning that that didn't make the Operator go away, he might become EVEN MORE dangerous -- he might, well, try killing other people. Like Jay. Or Jessica.

Or himself.

That is to say, we could take that a step further and say that maybe the Ark DOES exist, but that the Ark is in fact Tim -- because Tim cannot forget.


I'm liking this theory! Never thought of it this way.

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JKatkina wrote:
I preface this by saying I haven't actually read the 35 thread yet. It's been a crazy week, and it popped up 30 pages in a couple of days... I got through the first six pages before having to stop, and I don't remember seeing this theory in those six pages, hurr.

Okay, so chatting about the entries and trying to come up with new theories, Dray and I thought of something that might be interesting to kick around for a bit. Now, I don't know that I believe this, but I think it'd be a cool way for things to go.

Alex probably isn't the Ark. His middle name doesn't start with an R, so he's certainly not A.R.K. However, wouldn't it be interesting if Tim for some reason THINKS he's the ark? What if Tim has come up with the concept of "the ark" to mean something he believes exists, but has no actual proof of? Something he made up? That would mean there's no particular specialness to Alex other than Tim's focus on him.

That said, in Entry #35, we see Tim knife Alex. If he thinks Alex is the ark, that would that attack imply? It would depend entirely on what Tim's motives are.

If Tim is allied with the Operator, than the Ark is something that thwarts the Operator in some form. This could be taken to mean that Alex's apparent escape from the Operator was enough to label him as "the Ark" and earn Tim's malevolence. If that's the case, Tim's motives seem only to destroy Alex out of anger or spite.

If Tim is working against the Operator, or trying to escape the Operator, than his attack on Alex would mean that the Ark would be something that the OPERATOR uses or benefits from. If Tim thinks that Alex is attracting the Operator, or holding him in this dimension, or goading him on or something, than it would make sense that he would think that Alex is "broken", and that killing Alex would get rid of the Operator.

And here's where I launch into complete conjecture and rampant speculation:

What if in the seven months, Tim DID kill Alex? The blood on the rock being Alex's, and the Operator being present when Jay finds it, that would mean that if Tim was trying to get rid of the Operator by killing Alex, he failed.

I think it would be so fucking cool (in a jerking-us-around-completely kind of way) if the Ark wasn't anything. If the Ark was something that crazy Tim came up with in the depths of his madness to give him a reason for these inexplicable horrors to be happening. I'm still of the opinion that Tim's pills are seizure pills, the Operator has an effect on electricity, and because seizure pills have the effect of inhibiting electrical activity in certain parts of the brain, they're the reason Tim seems to be aware of the Operator without losing his memory. However, because Tim can't get OFF the pills because of the pre-existing condition of, well, seizures, he's stuck in the Operator's world, unable to forget and go back to normal life like the others ended up doing, and the mask is a method of coping -- of segregating his "normal" life from the horror of knowing the Operator and being unable to forget. This all would mean that Tim is an antagonist for sure (in that he wants to fricking KILL ALEX), but that his motives are reasonable, understandable. However, it ALSO means that if the Ark is something he made up that isn't real, him killing Alex and then learning that that didn't make the Operator go away, he might become EVEN MORE dangerous -- he might, well, try killing other people. Like Jay. Or Jessica.

Or himself.

That is to say, we could take that a step further and say that maybe the Ark DOES exist, but that the Ark is in fact Tim -- because Tim cannot forget.


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That is a totally RAWKIN' theory!! It's brilliant!! I don't know how TRUE it is--but wow--very cool to think about..... Cool

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 		JKat, I love you. This theory is like honey-filled sweet awesome biscuit sauce. Or something. I like it because it ties some of my favorite theories together very neatly without making too many jumps. Love.
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JKatkina wrote:
Alex probably isn't the Ark. His middle name doesn't start with an R, so he's certainly not A.R.K. However, wouldn't it be interesting if Tim for some reason THINKS he's the ark? What if Tim has come up with the concept of "the ark" to mean something he believes exists, but has no actual proof of? Something he made up? That would mean there's no particular specialness to Alex other than Tim's focus on him.

That said, in Entry #35, we see Tim knife Alex. If he thinks Alex is the ark, that would that attack imply? It would depend entirely on what Tim's motives are.

If Tim is allied with the Operator, than the Ark is something that thwarts the Operator in some form. This could be taken to mean that Alex's apparent escape from the Operator was enough to label him as "the Ark" and earn Tim's malevolence. If that's the case, Tim's motives seem only to destroy Alex out of anger or spite.


That reminds me of a story I heard of Slendy where he basically "possessed" people to kill others, like friends or family. :3

But all of what you said sounds really good. I like it.

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JKat, I love you. This theory is like honey-filled sweet awesome biscuit sauce. Or something. I like it because it ties some of my favorite theories together very neatly without making too many jumps. Love.


hearts! Tee hee.

Yeah, there was a minute in the conversation Dray and I were having where we kinda looked at each other and shivered.

I mean, and that's only a bit of it. There are so many other bits and pieces that COULD tie into this. For example, Alex has gotten ruthless. I mean, there was no hesitation between tying Tim up and asking for the knife, and being denied the knife and moving on to ROCK SMASH. Whatever Alex is after, I don't think it's a stretch to say that he's willing to kill to get it. I suspect that, even if that big chunk of speculation I spewed up there isn't true, there's some history between Alex and Tim-as-Masky; maybe that they're two sides of the same coin in that they had very different coping methods for the original problem with the Operator. At the very least, enough history that Alex knows enough about Tim to be THAT brutal to him straight off the bat. That one, I don't know where to go with -- this is the first time it's seemed like there was some potentiality for the Skully mask to tie in logically, though, so, interesting.

Hell, I like the idea of Tim being "the ark", but it would mean that the series would probably end with his death, which (even if he IS a stabby psychopath) I'm less thrilled about. I don't know, what do y'all figure?

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 		Building from 34 and 35
Probably the best place for this info:

Several Comments on the Building from entry 34 and 35- speculation to come later.

It is fairly isolated with tall weeds and grass around it, as can be seen from the set-up shots Jay gives us in #34

Where is Jay's car parked in #34

It looks like it is not a house since we do not see a kitchen or other typical house type rooms

It is hard to tell, but it looks like a slab foundation i.e. no basement

If no basement then does Tim emerge from a closet? bathroom?

The small room has a separate entrance and no visible windows, did Tim enter from the side door while Alex was approaching the building, allowing Alex to see him?

Where did Alex come from if Jay couldn't see him during his walk to the front door?

He enters about 30 seconds after Jay does, not enough time to drive up unseen, park and come in and only enough time to walk about 132 feet (if walking at a pace of 3 mph

See building info here (couldn't get it to post)

[img] http://www5.snapfish.com/snapfish/slideshow/AlbumID=3154843026/PictureID=120774633026/a=464230026_464230026/otsc=SHR/otsi=SPIClink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/ [/img]

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 		Hi,My girlfriend and I watched all through marble hornets and wrote down anyting new we havent noticed. Some could be insignificant, some might have been on this forum before, idk, its alot to go through so here goes:

1. Alex enters from the FRONT door in 35. Meaning that he came in the same way as Jay. This is what makes me believe that Alex and Jay met up before this... I mean in entry 34, he made no mention of someone telling him to look for something. He was simply going to check out the address.

2. In 34, right before Jay enters that room, a loud noise scares him off. In 35, Masky is in that room. Isnt it strange that were stopped from seeing whats inside? I think that the room itself may be the secret to this building.

3. Does it look to anyone else like Brian's basement is burned? At one point it even looks like they see a fireplace of some sorts.Jays apartment and now this new building were burned too, maybe a connection?

4. In ToTheArk's warning video, it says that it is raw footage of AK. Well, Alex seems to have escaped and been fine since giving Jay the tapes, as seen before sm appears in 26. So naturally this happened BEFORE Jay even became a target... Much like he came into Jay's room and messed with his camera, perhaps he did the same to Alex when he was still around?All this referring to masky of course

5.This is probably not even worth mentioning, but Alex has driven 3 different cars that ive seen. Can upload pics.

6.Jessica seems to honestly not know wtf is going on. Just like Jay lied to her as an issue of trust, maybe thats why she waited until entry 32 to say anything.

7.There is only one time that I know of when Timasky,Alex,Brian, and Jay are all together. That tape ends with them going to ask Slenderman to leave the set, that cant just be coincidence. I mean, you think slenderman is just gonna wave and walk away?

8.The red tower. Could it be some sort of reciever like a cell phone? I mean a cell phone tower sends a signal out to a big area around it, maybe this is what allows SM to travel instantly, the signal from this tower ((or multiple, depending on how strong the force were dealing with is)).

9.When Jay goes into Brians basement, We hear something talk multiple times. In entry 29, we hear and see slenderman, it sounds nothing like what was in that basement. Could Brian be down there? Or can Slenderman take on traits of victims/people he encounters?

10.What form of transportation does Tim have? He seems to be able to keep up with Jay no matter how far he goes.

11.The hotel. Just staff,Jess and JAy huh? I dont think so. It would make total sense that Tim was staying at the hotel, and biding his time for one of them to snap.

12. We never see slenderman move too fast on camera. The camera is also the only thing around each time SM shows up, unless there are pieces that werent taped.

13. The mask, its strange that Jay wouldnt TAKE the mask from the house, maybe it has a purpose that can be shown now that they beat poor masky up?

Like I said, random ideas, this forum gets confusing even with search so. Ideas?Bebunks?

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 		I'll write the quickest what I think has happened in Marble Hornets so far:

Alex, inadvertently, caught the Slenderman on tape. He then starting stalking Alex to cease him from filming or investigating more. Alex complied but when Jay starting investigating he (the operator) enlisted Tim to assist him.

Tim (Masky) seems to need Jay for some reason, most likely to accomplish something with Jay for the operator for freedom. The Operator cannot seem to do everything Masky can do, whether that being injuring someone or direct contact. That is probably due to his non-human status.

Jay found Alex in the 7 months Jay states he cannot remember, and Alex agreed to help him as he was recently re-attacked after a camera was pointed at him for what seemed to be the first time in a long time by the girl.

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JKatkina wrote:
there's some history between Alex and Tim-as-Masky; maybe that they're two sides of the same coin in that they had very different coping methods for the original problem with the Operator. At the very least, enough history that Alex knows enough about Tim to be THAT brutal to him straight off the bat. That one, I don't know where to go with -- this is the first time it's seemed like there was some potentiality for the Skully mask to tie in logically, though, so, interesting.


This is exactly my first thought. Clearly Alex is aware of Tim's shenanigans and this supports the idea that maybe Jay isn't the only one Tim likes to watch sleeping. Especially since it seemed, to me anyways, that Alex had arrived in 35 expecting or following Timasky. Plus I always supported the skully = prototype/Alex stalking mask idea
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 		JKat I like your idea, but I think it might be a bit out of the scope of this series.

Also - and I'm not being rude - please read this:

http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/thanthen.html

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ZorakRamone wrote:
JKat I like your idea, but I think it might be a bit out of the scope of this series.

Also - and I'm not being rude - please read this:

http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/thanthen.html


Man, I'm going to bookmark that. I know some people who really need it. Where'd I slip up in that post?

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JKatkina wrote:
Where'd I slip up in that post?


Here you go:

JKatkina wrote:
Alex probably isn't the Ark. His middle name doesn't start with an R, so he's certainly not A.R.K. However, wouldn't it be interesting if Tim for some reason THINKS he's the ark? What if Tim has come up with the concept of "the ark" to mean something he believes exists, but has no actual proof of? Something he made up? That would mean there's no particular specialness to Alex other than (I'm fairly sure this is correct, just labeling it just in case, you used then once properly, but I'm not including that paragraph.) Tim's focus on him.


JKatkina wrote:
If Tim is allied with the Operator, than then the Ark is something that thwarts the Operator in some form. This could be taken to mean that Alex's apparent escape from the Operator was enough to label him as "the Ark" and earn Tim's malevolence. If that's the case, Tim's motives seem only to destroy Alex out of anger or spite.


JKatkina wrote:
If Tim is working against the Operator, or trying to escape the Operator, than then his attack on Alex would mean that the Ark would be something that the OPERATOR uses or benefits from. If Tim thinks that Alex is attracting the Operator, or holding him in this dimension, or goading him on or something, than it would make sense that he would think that Alex is "broken", and that killing Alex would get rid of the Operator.


I take analysis seriously, except for my own grammar/spelling, cause screw that.

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Holy crap. Shame on me. SHAME! Ugh, I must have had a serious derp-day. I am going to go fix that shit.

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