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ladywyntir
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 		picture speculation?
Chainsaw Fellatio wrote:
This can't really be a Viewmaster can it?

"While a View-Master disk holds 14 film slides, these really are only seven pairs, making up the seven stereoscopic images; two film slides are viewed simultaneously, one for each eye, thus simulating binocular depth perception."

Some of these groupings require four slides to get the whole picture. Are these for the alien to take home as a souvenir, payment for being the star in JJ's film?


The way i see it... the little kid found an old super 8 camera. Let's say at a place like GoodWill. Kids don't bother about the past, so he checked to make sure film was in the camera, but didn't check to see if anything was recorded on it.

He decided to make a zombie film and used the camera as is. They experienced the train crash, left the camera running on the floor when the beastie busted out of the train car, retrieved the camera afterwards and filmed the craziness from the Air Force take over.

They went to get the film developed and found there was more recorded than what they put on there.

I've always thought that the image with the woman's a$$ was when they collected all the people together to evacuate the town. Also... the image with the woman's face in the reflection... the bottom right pic looks like an hourglass.

So much fun. You guys are doing such a great job! ^_^
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 		Re: picture speculation?
ladywyntir wrote:
Chainsaw Fellatio wrote:
This can't really be a Viewmaster can it?

"While a View-Master disk holds 14 film slides, these really are only seven pairs, making up the seven stereoscopic images; two film slides are viewed simultaneously, one for each eye, thus simulating binocular depth perception."

Some of these groupings require four slides to get the whole picture. Are these for the alien to take home as a souvenir, payment for being the star in JJ's film?


The way i see it... the little kid found an old super 8 camera. Let's say at a place like GoodWill. Kids don't bother about the past, so he checked to make sure film was in the camera, but didn't check to see if anything was recorded on it.

He decided to make a zombie film and used the camera as is. They experienced the train crash, left the camera running on the floor when the beastie busted out of the train car, retrieved the camera afterwards and filmed the craziness from the Air Force take over.

They went to get the film developed and found there was more recorded than what they put on there.

I've always thought that the image with the woman's a$$ was when they collected all the people together to evacuate the town. Also... the image with the woman's face in the reflection... the bottom right pic looks like an hourglass.

So much fun. You guys are doing such a great job! ^_^


I don't think that's likely. At the time the movie is set in, super8 cameras were common, but I don't think they'd likely be found in GoodWill stores yet. That would be like finding a MacBook Pro in a GoodWill today... never happen.

I believe that if there's something on the film that was in the camera the kid had, he was the one who caught it on film. However, the trailers show the kid getting scared, and running away as the camera falls on the ground. He may not have been present for whatever was captured, but might have come back to claim the camera, gotten the film processed, and found it later.

Alternatively, who says that the kid has to know what his camera captured? Maybe he abandoned the camera, and someone else (Mysterio? Josh's dad? Some military agent?) found the camera at the site of the incident, and developed the film, kind of like how in cloverfield, the camcorder tape had become government property. I believe that is much more likely.
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 		Re: picture speculation?
twodten wrote:

I don't think that's likely. At the time the movie is set in, super8 cameras were common, but I don't think they'd likely be found in GoodWill stores yet. That would be like finding a MacBook Pro in a GoodWill today... never happen.

I believe that if there's something on the film that was in the camera the kid had, he was the one who caught it on film. However, the trailers show the kid getting scared, and running away as the camera falls on the ground. He may not have been present for whatever was captured, but might have come back to claim the camera, gotten the film processed, and found it later.

Alternatively, who says that the kid has to know what his camera captured? Maybe he abandoned the camera, and someone else (Mysterio? Josh's dad? Some military agent?) found the camera at the site of the incident, and developed the film, kind of like how in cloverfield, the camcorder tape had become government property. I believe that is much more likely.


Here are my reasons...

A kind of 8mm film was originally designed in 1932. It was basically a 16mm strand doubled over then split when developed. This smaller version was a huge hit and led to an 8mm film evolution.

1965 brought on the glory that was the Super 8 camera. A cartridge loading film device that was easy to tug around and use. It seems that at first, the cartridges were visual only and later on they added the magnetic strip to record sound, but the cameras were available.

I see it as being very likely that he'd find a Super 8 camera. Granted, maybe not at GoodWill... maybe at a relative's house, or maybe it was his grandfather's attic or something?

(shout out to kodak.com for the reference)

The reason i believe there was a time difference is mainly... the images we see of the scientists are all black and white. All the current pics are in color.


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 		Re: picture speculation?
ladywyntir wrote:
twodten wrote:

I don't think that's likely. At the time the movie is set in, super8 cameras were common, but I don't think they'd likely be found in GoodWill stores yet. That would be like finding a MacBook Pro in a GoodWill today... never happen.

I believe that if there's something on the film that was in the camera the kid had, he was the one who caught it on film. However, the trailers show the kid getting scared, and running away as the camera falls on the ground. He may not have been present for whatever was captured, but might have come back to claim the camera, gotten the film processed, and found it later.

Alternatively, who says that the kid has to know what his camera captured? Maybe he abandoned the camera, and someone else (Mysterio? Josh's dad? Some military agent?) found the camera at the site of the incident, and developed the film, kind of like how in cloverfield, the camcorder tape had become government property. I believe that is much more likely.


Here are my reasons...

A kind of 8mm film was originally designed in 1932. It was basically a 16mm strand doubled over then split when developed. This smaller version was a huge hit and led to an 8mm film evolution.

1965 brought on the glory that was the Super 8 camera. A cartridge loading film device that was easy to tug around and use. It seems that at first, the cartridges were visual only and later on they added the magnetic strip to record sound, but the cameras were available.

I see it as being very likely that he'd find a Super 8 camera. Granted, maybe not at GoodWill... maybe at a relative's house, or maybe it was his grandfather's attic or something?

(shout out to kodak.com for the reference)

The reason i believe there was a time difference is mainly... the images we see of the scientists are all black and white. All the current pics are in color.


^_^


Yes, but there's nothing to say that these photos we're receiving were even taken with an 8mm camera. They could just be photos that were cut up and put in by mysterio for clues.

I mean, if they weren't cut up after they were taken, why would the 3 dots be there for us to line them up? I just think that all of that is too deep and unlikely. Just because the photos are old, doesn't mean that they were taken on an 8mm camera.

Also, if the old film was black and white, then the kid would be shooting in b&w also, it's the film not the camera that controls this. So the shots of the boy in front of the lost dog board and the woman's butt would also be in b&w if it was the same film.
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 		In the Superbowl trailer, it shows one of the kids dressed like a zombie, and the other kids are filming the "airforce" in daylight. Perhaps the boy was trying to get a good "LOOK" at the area through the super 8 camera, and they may have planned to film during nightfall, when things died down? (maybe the airforce was waiting to ensure the train's safe passage through the town?) so at night the kids film near the tracks, around possible airforce equipment, when the train crash occurs during? Then he drops the camera (airforce, alien, father, someone, finds it later on). Maybe that's why the military is pursuing the boy and his friends, because either the kids retrieve the camera, or someone that knows the kids does...?

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 		Anyone been checking the trailer? I haven't looked since we got the last set!
Edit: still looks the same.

Interplanetarian wrote:
In the Superbowl trailer, it shows one of the kids dressed like a zombie, and the other kids are filming the "airforce" in daylight. Perhaps the boy was trying to get a good "LOOK" at the area through the super 8 camera, and they may have planned to film during nightfall, when things died down? (maybe the airforce was waiting to ensure the train's safe passage through the town?) so at night the kids film near the tracks, around possible airforce equipment, when the train crash occurs during? Then he drops the camera (airforce, alien, father, someone, finds it later on). Maybe that's why the military is pursuing the boy and his friends, because either the kids retrieve the camera, or someone that knows the kids does...?


I think the daytime shoot takes place the day after the train crash, there's the military presence and the camera is different (replacement for broken one?) The boy seems to have a different shirt pattern in the crash scene too.

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 		 uh guys...
(clears throat in a manner that attracts attention)

You DO realize that there are TWO cameras that the boy uses...

The one that tips over is different from the one that shows him filming in the day time...

uh, just thought you should know.

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 		Re: uh guys...
Rebels Lead The Way wrote:
(clears throat in a manner that attracts attention)

You DO realize that there are TWO cameras that the boy uses...

The one that tips over is different from the one that shows him filming in the day time...

uh, just thought you should know.


Nice catch!

And to twodten:

I understand the film is what determines the black and white vs. color of a recorded movie. My point is that it's possible he could have the same camera with old film in it that recorded something long before he was around. (Like we found the old cassette tape in the tape recorder that came with my Barbie and the Rockers van.)

It was briefly discussed before that the 3 dots could have been used by the Air Force to document evidence collected. In this case, they have developed images - could have been from a still image camera or from a Super 8 reel. I say Super 8 because the images of the zombie film are on there - kind of a clue to let us know where the source came from.

Plus.... the photo that Mysterio sent us of Josh's dad didn't have the 3 dots, so that wasn't marked as evidence. I don't think we can assume he's sending us these photos.

This was a common theme in Cloverfield too. Two timelines intermingled because of a similar device. This time, it's a Super 8 camera.

Again, just speculation. And you never know how detailed their clues may be. ^_^

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 		Re: uh guys...
ladywyntir wrote:

And to twodten:

I understand the film is what determines the black and white vs. color of a recorded movie. My point is that it's possible he could have the same camera with old film in it that recorded something long before he was around. (Like we found the old cassette tape in the tape recorder that came with my Barbie and the Rockers van.)

It was briefly discussed before that the 3 dots could have been used by the Air Force to document evidence collected. In this case, they have developed images - could have been from a still image camera or from a Super 8 reel. I say Super 8 because the images of the zombie film are on there - kind of a clue to let us know where the source came from.

Plus.... the photo that Mysterio sent us of Josh's dad didn't have the 3 dots, so that wasn't marked as evidence. I don't think we can assume he's sending us these photos.

This was a common theme in Cloverfield too. Two timelines intermingled because of a similar device. This time, it's a Super 8 camera.

Again, just speculation. And you never know how detailed their clues may be. ^_^


Splitting the stills into quarters could be a way of hiding them within a reel of 8mm film: if you had a 35mm frame you could cut it into four and edit them in between frames on an 8mm reel. However, you would usually expect them to be negatives, but black and white positives are not unheard of, and colour positives are almost as common an colour negatives. (Positives are also called reversal films or more commonly "slides").

Just a thought that if they wanted to secretly share some photos and a reel of film this could be a way of doing it, and the dots would have been put in to help the recipient put them back together again.

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 		Alright you guys, you win, I'll shut up and keep my thoughts to myself.
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 		Just had a wild thought about the movie..

What if we see train crash, camera drop .. and it just goes on from there.. military comes, kids, town and military chase unknown and unseen.. "mothership" comes .. all hell breaks loose.. but still a hidden and a unseen entity is persued.. story ends...movie ends .. we get the reel during credits.

.. train crash and now you get to see the alien crawl out... goes to blank


I dunno.. I just feels that would fit

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Jane Smith wrote:
Just had a wild thought about the movie..

What if we see train crash, camera drop .. and it just goes on from there.. military comes, kids, town and military chase unknown and unseen.. "mothership" comes .. all hell breaks loose.. but still a hidden and a unseen entity is persued.. story ends...movie ends .. we get the reel during credits.

.. train crash and now you get to see the alien crawl out... goes to blank


I dunno.. I just feels that would fit

Jane


...I would cry.

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Jane Smith wrote:
Just had a wild thought about the movie..

What if we see train crash, camera drop .. and it just goes on from there.. military comes, kids, town and military chase unknown and unseen.. "mothership" comes .. all hell breaks loose.. but still a hidden and a unseen entity is persued.. story ends...movie ends .. we get the reel during credits.

.. train crash and now you get to see the alien crawl out... goes to blank


I dunno.. I just feels that would fit

Jane


GOD I hope not!
But what if the TV Spot with all that stuff in it, is just one part of the movie. And it's sort of like Lost was. As M and Josh are uncovering what happend that day, as they they have flashbacks? The movie could start where we leave off, that would be sort of cool

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Jane Smith wrote:
Just had a wild thought about the movie..

What if we see train crash, camera drop .. and it just goes on from there.. military comes, kids, town and military chase unknown and unseen.. "mothership" comes .. all hell breaks loose.. but still a hidden and a unseen entity is persued.. story ends...movie ends .. we get the reel during credits.

.. train crash and now you get to see the alien crawl out... goes to blank


I dunno.. I just feels that would fit

Jane


Interesting, it's a good fit for what we've been shown, and the flying thing might not be identifiable other than some lights in the sky. They must be running about trying to retrieve the broken camera at some point if it gets left at the crash site too.
There may be multiple entities, and could possibly fly instead of needing a mothership.

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 		I suspect there may be multiple entities as well, couple reasons:

1) There's a couple youtube videos of there of an action scene in a residential neighborhood (filmed from bystanders watching the movie making). In it, one tank is shooting into the sky and a gunner is shooting level

2)Most UFO stories involve a ship with multiple aliens, it's somewhat uncommon in the stories for more than one to survive, however I'm wondering if the train scene is 2 working together to get out. Some of the shapes the train door makes when it's about to fly off looks like it may be 2 separate entities trying to get out.

As far as the camera drop goes, when I watch it frame by frame and then regular speed, I swear I see the light of a spacecraft (or helicopter with a spotlight) near the ground. The kid could be filming something he sees in the sky and drops the camera a few moments later in fear because he realizes it's landing.

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