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[VIDEO] Entry #35
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Gus23
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new theory: alex tells jay to turn off the camera as he hears tim coughing, because the cough plus the fact that they are filming makes him fear slendy's all up in their shack.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:51 pm
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HunterEris
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Gus23 wrote:
new theory: alex tells jay to turn off the camera as he hears tim coughing, because the cough plus the fact that they are filming makes him fear slendy's all up in their shack.


Yes... Yes! Like it! Kill them! Good theory!

Note: I should probably sleep soon. I'm feeling... silly.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:02 am
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Safety Scissors
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I think the past few entries have been excellent from a story-telling point of view. #35 really puts #34 and Fragments into perspective. Some people (myself included) were disappointed with #34 because it seemed like just an exploration of a somewhat spooky place without anything really happening, but I believe it moved the story forward in ways we can only now appreciate. (speculation follows)

It is now certain that Tim=Masky, who had a very unpleasant experience in the abandoned house. OOG, Troy had to post #34 as a way to set the motivation for TTA to post Fragments (assuming TTA=TiMasky). IG, when TTA saw #34, it evoked memories of that day and anger toward his assailant (Alex), so he posted Fragments.

Fragments, I believe, compares and contrasts what happened to TiMasky in #35 with what has since happened to Alex. Just as TiMasky was "broken" when Alex bashed him with the rock, so is Alex (in some event we haven't seen). However, whereas TiMasky has healed from his injury, Alex "cannot be fixed" (is dead).

Fragments is TTA/TiMasky's way of saying, "I've gotten the last laugh."

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bratney
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If Alex "killed" Tim/Masky... is it possible Alex is Masky in #33? TTA in the past posted a picture of Tim's face when he was Masky... and now that Alex has become Masky TTA has posted Alex's face.

Just a random thought, I don't believe it... but it popped into my head so I had to throw it out there.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:02 pm
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Magyk
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bratney wrote:
If Alex "killed" Tim/Masky... is it possible Alex is Masky in #33? TTA in the past posted a picture of Tim's face when he was Masky... and now that Alex has become Masky TTA has posted Alex's face.

Just a random thought, I don't believe it... but it popped into my head so I had to throw it out there.


In entry #33 Masky has very obvious sideburns showing (like Tim's) so while it's possible it's very, very unlikely.

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bobthecrusher
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Magyk wrote:
bratney wrote:
If Alex "killed" Tim/Masky... is it possible Alex is Masky in #33? TTA in the past posted a picture of Tim's face when he was Masky... and now that Alex has become Masky TTA has posted Alex's face.

Just a random thought, I don't believe it... but it popped into my head so I had to throw it out there.


In entry #33 Masky has very obvious sideburns showing (like Tim's) so while it's possible it's very, very unlikely.


Alex had some sideburns going on in this latest entry.

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onetruepurple
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Has anyone noticed how entries #34 and #35 are essentially #16 and #18 revisited?

Both arcs start with Jay getting an anonymous tip about a house, where a plot-relevant character may or may not be found. The house is dilapidated and appears abandoned. Jay explores the house for a short while, not without some tense moments (screen tear in #16, the tarp and the bang in #34) - even if the Operator is nowhere to be seen. Eventually, Jay leaves, and strongly suggests a potential return.

Several days and one unsettling totheark video later, he returns to the house, and is visibly frustrated. Shortly thereafter, he has a startling discovery - this thing (the slender doll/Alex) wasn't there before. Seconds later, TTA appears out of nowhere and attacks. Jay's camera falls to the ground, the video feed is sideways. A struggle can be heard (and, satisfyingly enough, seen, in #35), and eventually TTA lies defeated. Jay then attempts (and succeeds) to take off his mask, and the struggle recommences. Eventually, Jay is seen running/driving away, and comments that he's really unsettled by what had happened.

It makes sense when you think about it - #18 was TTA's first appearance, and #35 was Jay (and Alex) getting the upper hand over him.

If that's the case (I'm pretty sure it is, too many coincidences here), I have to say that's some damn good storytelling. Well designed.

(I may edit this later with some snapshots)

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Magyk
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bobthecrusher wrote:
Magyk wrote:
bratney wrote:
If Alex "killed" Tim/Masky... is it possible Alex is Masky in #33? TTA in the past posted a picture of Tim's face when he was Masky... and now that Alex has become Masky TTA has posted Alex's face.

Just a random thought, I don't believe it... but it popped into my head so I had to throw it out there.


In entry #33 Masky has very obvious sideburns showing (like Tim's) so while it's possible it's very, very unlikely.


Alex had some sideburns going on in this latest entry.


Went back and checked, and again, it's possible - I just think Tim's features (hair, specifically.) match up better.



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Gus23
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onetruepurple wrote:
Has anyone noticed how entries #34 and #35 are essentially #16 and #18 revisited?

Both arcs start with Jay getting an anonymous tip about a house, where a plot-relevant character may or may not be found. The house is dilapidated and appears abandoned. Jay explores the house for a short while, not without some tense moments (screen tear in #16, the tarp and the bang in #34) - even if the Operator is nowhere to be seen. Eventually, Jay leaves, and strongly suggests a potential return.

Several days and one unsettling totheark video later, he returns to the house, and is visibly frustrated. Shortly thereafter, he has a startling discovery - this thing (the slender doll/Alex) wasn't there before. Seconds later, TTA appears out of nowhere and attacks. Jay's camera falls to the ground, the video feed is sideways. A struggle can be heard (and, satisfyingly enough, seen, in #35), and eventually TTA lies defeated. Jay then attempts (and succeeds) to take off his mask, and the struggle recommences. Eventually, Jay is seen running/driving away, and comments that he's really unsettled by what had happened.

It makes sense when you think about it - #18 was TTA's first appearance, and #35 was Jay (and Alex) getting the upper hand over him.

If that's the case (I'm pretty sure it is, too many coincidences here), I have to say that's some damn good storytelling. Well designed.

(I may edit this later with some snapshots)


nice catch...this cyclicalness can't be denied, yet i don't know how it could have to do with the plot.

still a good catch though.

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nilxchaos
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Since I got over 140 hits on my forum topic, but no replies, I might as well post my theory here:

What if TiMasky isn't actually on the Operator's side, and Alex is?

There are some actual foundations on this theory:
1. First off, TTA doesn't want Jay to know he's on Jay's side, thus the Youtube channel with creepy videos(filming him while he coughs? creepy) directed at Jay (and Alex?).

2. Anybody remember the theory by M (I think) saying that masks scare the Operator, because it is always looking at him? If Masky is on J's side, that's why he watches him as he sleeps, to keep the Operator away. Plus, perhaps Masky's video disturbance is only when the Operator is near, who he is trying to keep away. Thus, why TiMasky still wears it in #33.

3. When TiMasky first attacks Jay in the abandoned house, perhaps he only does it to try and scare Jay away from the entire Operator thing, and give up on any investigation. This is also for any other time TiMasky tries to attack J. (except Entry #33, but that's later.)

Now onto Alex being the villain.

4. Why would he give those tapes away? Perhaps he was controlled by the Operator, but not at first, which is why he didn't want to give away the tapes.

5. In Entry #26, when the Operator appears in Alex's house, Amy is really freaked out, but Alex seems too calm for what's happening. Some might say that he's just used to it, but what if the Operator was only there to say (by his presence) "It's time. Jay needs to be taken out."

6. TiMasky knows this, and knows that Alex is not out to help Jay. Thus in Entry #35, he skips over Jay and stabs Alex, however, Jay still thought that Alex was on his side.

(Now, this next theory goes off of the theory that this was the first time that Jay and Alex had met in 4 years, which is what I thought. I yell to myself at times when frustrated too.)

7. When Alex yells "Now he won't follow us anymore", perhaps he's not talking about him and Jay, but in fact, Alex and the Operator.

Now, the other stuff, mainly about Entry #33:

8. TiMasky did not kidnap Jessica, the Operator did. TiMasky just knew that Jay would go looking for her, so he tried to get him away from where Operator last was.

9. TiMasky planted the tapes/hard drives in the safe so that Jay could go "See? Alex is no longer on your side, he never was, and he tried to kill me." That's also why he took his time and waited for Jay to get the tapes before attacking.

Questions, comments, criticisms? I'd love to start a debate.

Also, I personally think Jessica comes in later as maybe Jay's girlfriend or just someone else that he meets who is being followed by the Operator. I don't know.

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Speedjump
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Well there's the issue that TTA/Tim had possession of the tapes, who knows whats been removed. This would make portraying Alex as an enemy and Tim as an ally hilariously easy, so I think it would be wise to take what we see from these tapes with a grain of salt.

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Zaden
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theerie, doodz

Oh cay, I dunno wear I shood posed this, butt...

Maybe white-faced Operator doesn't go after other people when they have a white face? I'm basing this comepletely off the Masked Man and Return, but think about it. Jay's face was painted white and The Slender Man just lumbered right by and didn't care. AND even seemed to change his course. Maybe he turned because TOOTH-ARK took his mask off to lure him away?

Yeah, this same theory was prob posted ten months ago... screw it all.

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Magyk
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nilxchaos wrote:
Since I got over 140 hits on my forum topic, but no replies, I might as well post my theory here:

What if TiMasky isn't actually on the Operator's side, and Alex is?


I've been trying to promote this theory since this last entry myself.

I personally feel like everyone is overlooking the very important fact that this building was the return address of the Entry#26 package.

The package that had a tape in it. A tape that ended in one word: "HELP." That "help" was written in very TTA-esque styling.

Assuming that Timasky = tta, he may have been asking for help, and was startled when he saw Alex there in addition to J. That's why he ran by J to get to/attack Alex.

Maybe timasky KNEW Alex could be harmful to the fight against the operator.

Semi crazy theory:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
What if Masky'smask really does protect him from the Operator's "telepathic" control? MAYBE Jay was somehow immune because of Slendysickness (Which Tim had also.) but Alex wasn't.


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So I'd like to note that the Operator has still never shown interest in Jay. Even in Return, the operator ignored J and walked right past. Jay has not once had an encounter with the Operator and remembered it. i think that the Operator erases memories, and his obsession with cameras is because he can't wipe its memory.

Note: I don't think Operator has interest in J mainly because every time it followed Alex, it stood still near him, but never stopped moving when near Jay.

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Speedjump wrote:
Well there's the issue that TTA/Tim had possession of the tapes

How do we know this? There's been nothing definitively stated that anyone other than Jay (and possibly Jess) had access to them.

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