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[HitsHerMark]

[SPEC] Do we cause it? ... No...

[johnny5]

I've been thinking about this very subject. Except my theory still implicates us.
If left alone, Standish will stash the device away to do who knows what. Most likely nothing. My mind is conjuring up Old X-files type storage rooms.

It would seem that it was activated on the Apoc. but did they deactivate it immediately afterwards?

At the moment, Durga knows nothing about it, but we just changed that.
Now she can...what? Help Herzog reveal the truth that we have it? What will happen then?
Will it be activated again? Will it be actively tested?

I'm thinking that's what brings the Covenant, and hence we would be directly involved.

[StarvinArtist80]

Okay, so Bungie has said that Halo is all but finished so I agree that you can stop thinking anything we do in this ARGN is going to change or affect the covenant invasion of earth in any way. That is part of the "video" game plot line that has already been finished and is not about to change. I think this ARGN is headed down a slightly different though obviously connected path. The Covenant are going to invade no matter what happens here, we need to figure out what we can about the facts or lack there of that we have been given.

[HitsHerMark]

[Quick dietribe directed at nobody in particular]
I'm not talking about our ability or inability to alter what happens in Halo 2. I've never thought that we would. I think it's silly to think that we could have.

Other then the fact that interesting information about the mileux (or world) that we're dealing with can be gained from it, I've never really thought about Halo the game (for XBox or PC) much at all. (As far as ilovebees goes anyway.)

Long Story Short: Stop bringing up Bungie, it just confuses the issue!
[/Quick dietribe directed at nobody in particular]

I feel like I didn't organize my thoughts very well in my first post... So I'm going to try it like this...

Questions:
1. What is the truth that Melissa needs to be revealed and to whom?

2. For a while, the popular theory seemed to be that the answer to question number 1 was the location of Earth to the Covenant. But was that ever really the idea?

3. With her growing paranoia, have Melissa's plans changed or remained the same?

((Her self proclaimed mission objective is to reveal the truth, but, as things advanced, she's been trying to hide more and more.))

4. The Sleeping Princess now wants to reveal the truth about the artifact from the Apocalypso to Hurtzog... Is this seemingly sudden interest in revealing and beholding part of something she's planned all along? Or is she just trying to stick it to Melissa?

5. What role does Melissa's obsession with getting back at Dana play in this? And how can we get Melissa back on some semblance of a track without simply surrendering Dana to her?

[jonus511]

From the different statements that Melissa has made, I think it points to the fact that 'the truth' is not information, but an event ('consumation of the truth' in thehives page). This event has to be, not only the covenants attack, but also the the covenants destruction of earth. (In her thinking, the truth is that the Earth will be destroyed; its going to happen, but it has yet to happen).

The Sleeping Princess, then, is acting in character when she wants to reveal the truth to Durga. Also, I think she's using the flea's simple mind to use its mantra against itself. changing his understanding of the truth to help reveal it to Durga. (If the SP is the human representation of the whole AI, like the original personality of the donor, then it is uncorruptable in that it can't be reprogrammed...I think this is a failing that the convenant didn't account for. triumph of the human spirit and all that mumbo jumbo).

'Durga doesn't understand the nature of the truth...must not interfere...'

If Durga knows the Covenant are coming, she'll interfere...which means, she'll help put up a fight.

[MusicToEat]

I like your spec about not knowing who Dana is the great-great-great-grandmother of. Could M have ended up at ilovebees because shes related to one of the characters. How cool would it be if the SP is Kamal's sister and also Dana's great-great-great-granddaughter? That way if we give up Dana we would gain the trust of M, but lose the trust of the SP and vice-versa.

Anyway, I wish you would have brought this up in the other thread instead of just suggesting I should get myself attacked by a deranged AI.

Edit: I just noticed Gram had this same thought in another post, which got me thinking. Maybe M came back in time to eliminate Dana, because one of her descendants causes the destruction of earth. That's why she see's her as the assasin, not because of Dana's attempts to recover ilovebees.

[FIRST MATE BEAN]

Okay but what should we do? I have a personal call from Melissa scheduled for October 5th at 14:21PDT. Melissa has stated that this week she wants her crew to get her the location of the killer. DO WE DO THIS? I don't want to urinate people off like weephun did, nor do I want to miss my opportunity.

[HitsHerMark]

Music: That post was meant for that thread, but I couldn't find it and was in a hurry... So I figured a new thread wasn't totally out of line. ... And if you're still feeling froggy about impersonating Dana, I think that's super green.

Bean: From what I've heard about the calls that have gone out to your fellow crewmates, your personal call with probably be a recording and not a live conversation.

So, if things continue as they have been, it's not the current crew that needs to worry about what to tell Melissa about Dana's where-abouts. It's the future prospective crewmembers, the people who'll end up on the live calls this coming Tues., that need to come up with something.

For my part, I'll probably try to alert her to the fact that she has bigger fish to fry, and ask her if Dana has done anything other then interfere with those first few stages of repair. If not... Then is the personal need for revenge really more important then achieving her mission objective?

It probably won't get me much of anywhere, but I feel like I have to try it if given the opportunity.