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[Trailhead] Snow Town, USA
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luci
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 		Re: papers
Laguz wrote:
notice the symbols on the paper. they should be some indicator of the word order. Hoping we get to see them all.


I'm sure we will - but I sense that maybe we need to solve something first. We have a lot of leads that we haven't yet unravelled, and maybe we need to first?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:36 pm
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Zobot257
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Location: Wandering...

 		I've fired off some e-mails to the librarian asking about the history of the library, as well as sending this e-mail to the private guy:

"Don't worry! We'll figure out what's going on in snow town!

I've e-mailed the librarian asking for more information on the history of the library. And hopefully after my post on the guest board she'll think I'm asking legitimately.

I'm going to write a huge report about it anyway, so I may as well ask, you know?

I wanted to ask you if you've seen the snow town blog as well. Maybe Fred is someone whom might be able to tell us more? You should consider asking him about the sign. I think he's seen it before!"

Also... a friend of mine pointed out that there's some odd typos in the guest log on the library website that I think we've overlooked!

I'm posting what she said right here:

???: Mostly weird because of the grammar thing, but...
???: "I am available for volunteer work, If you need any assistance, Feel free to contact me."
???: "being able to be apart of the"
???: " and would rally like to be"
Zobot: the F is capitalized, yeah...
Zobot: apart... rally?
Zobot: That is sorta weird
???: *nods*
???: And it's not just that the F is capitalized- there's something weird going on with a comma splice, too...
???: " I just stumbled upon your beautiful website, so i wanted to ask if I could join your book club."
???: ONE 'I' is lowercase.
???: ...tell me all those are a coincidence.

Out of respect to my awesome friend, her screenname is hidden. But take a look at it and tell me what you think!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:41 pm
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luci
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 		Book of Wisdom
Okay, I want to look more into this quote Ruthie has given us, as I think it's important:

Quote:
Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom.



As OCTAF1SH noted this quote has been attributed to Jefferson, so that is one avenue to explore.

Another avenue - it could be in reference to the bible - this information from http://www.thenazareneway.com/book_of_wisdom.htm

Quote:
The Book of Wisdom is one of the books of the Apocrypha; in the Septuagint and Vulgate it is included in the Old Testament. It does not appear in the Hebrew Bible and is placed with the Apocrypha in Protestant versions of the Bible. The book is ascribed to King Solomon and stands in the same intellectual tradition as such earlier collections of proverbial wisdom as Proverbs and the Book of Sirach - hence its full title, the Wisdom of Solomon.


The first chapter is about "An exhortation to seek God sincerely, who cannot be deceived, and desireth not our death" - the full text is at the link above, says much about wisdom but nothing about 'honesty'...

Any further thoughts?

EDIT: AHAH! Reading back over old posts realise that diszaster pointed out the calendar calls the month Solomonth - which could further indicate the reference is to the Book of Solomon.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:43 pm
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luci
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Zobot257 wrote:
Also... a friend of mine pointed out that there's some odd typos in the guest log on the library website that I think we've overlooked!


I think these are just players, doing the normal thing that we do on blogs and forums - our grammar is all over the place!

The key is when something that is said that is "In Game" that stands out as being a made up character rather than another one of us playing the game. Sometimes it's hard to tell, because we're trying to play in our own character ourselves.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:47 pm
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jotadinero
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Zobot257 wrote:

???: " and would rally like to be"



The person that posted that is actually my friend in the RW, he has awful spelling.

Haha

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Zobot257
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 		new post up on the snow town blog!

There's a puzzle of some sort...

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whitellama
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 		Something's fishy...
OCTAF1SH wrote:
was just rereading the thread, and noticed something
I'm probably reading into it too much, as i'm tired, but can't stop looking around at the same pages, but the inconsistancy that private is allowed in, without feeling accepted in the ST community is bugging me for some reason....anyway, must sleep, will leave you guys to discover what's in fred's basket!

Yeah, now that you point it out, it does seem bizarre. I think that this can confirm one of two things:

1) Private isn't very consistent in his/her explanations of his/her standing in this community.

2) Private is lying to us about how exactly he/her accesses the vault. First implying that not everyone can gain access to the vault, perhaps suggesting that he/she is a reputable person, but then speaking of how he/she is from away and not every trusts him/her.


After you have brought this to me attention, that Private is "from away", I now realize this is a key clue to the unmasking of Private's identity. While this is not a primary objective, my curiosity burns inside of me... so if anyone finds the time, pay attention to other characters that are from somewhere other than Snow Town.

GUYS! As I post this, the contents of Fred's basket has been uploaded! LETS GET CRACKIN! Very Happy This has made me very very excited.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:05 pm
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enaxor
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 		It looks like the song might be Greensleeves, and the markings on the slips of paper appear to be a pigpen cipher.
Quote:
Alas, my love, you do me wrong,
To cast me off discourteously.
For I have loved you well and long,
Delighting in your company.

Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lady greensleeves.

Your vows you've broken, like my heart,
Oh, why did you so enrapture me?
Now I remain in a world apart
But my heart remains in captivity.

chorus

I have been ready at your hand,
To grant whatever you would crave,
I have both wagered life and land,
Your love and good-will for to have.

chorus

If you intend thus to disdain,
It does the more enrapture me,
And even so, I still remain
A lover in captivity.

chorus

My men were clothed all in green,
And they did ever wait on thee;
All this was gallant to be seen,
And yet thou wouldst not love me.

chorus

Thou couldst desire no earthly thing,
but still thou hadst it readily.
Thy music still to play and sing;
And yet thou wouldst not love me.

chorus

Well, I will pray to God on high,
that thou my constancy mayst see,
And that yet once before I die,
Thou wilt vouchsafe to love me.

chorus

Ah, Greensleeves, now farewell, adieu,
To God I pray to prosper thee,
For I am still thy lover true,
Come once again and love me.

chorus

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:13 pm
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whitellama
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 		Hmm
Yeah, I recognized this cipher with the tic-tac-toe like things with dots in them from elementary school... I'm working on matching the cards with letters as we speak.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:21 pm
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jotadinero
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enaxor wrote:
It looks like the song might be Greensleeves, and the markings on the slips of paper appear to be a pigpen cipher.
Quote:
Alas, my love, you do me wrong,
To cast me off discourteously.
For I have loved you well and long,
Delighting in your company.

Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lady greensleeves.

Your vows you've broken, like my heart,
Oh, why did you so enrapture me?
Now I remain in a world apart
But my heart remains in captivity.

chorus

I have been ready at your hand,
To grant whatever you would crave,
I have both wagered life and land,
Your love and good-will for to have.

chorus

If you intend thus to disdain,
It does the more enrapture me,
And even so, I still remain
A lover in captivity.

chorus

My men were clothed all in green,
And they did ever wait on thee;
All this was gallant to be seen,
And yet thou wouldst not love me.

chorus

Thou couldst desire no earthly thing,
but still thou hadst it readily.
Thy music still to play and sing;
And yet thou wouldst not love me.

chorus

Well, I will pray to God on high,
that thou my constancy mayst see,
And that yet once before I die,
Thou wilt vouchsafe to love me.

chorus

Ah, Greensleeves, now farewell, adieu,
To God I pray to prosper thee,
For I am still thy lover true,
Come once again and love me.

chorus

Nice job!
What's Greensleeves from? It sounds familiar.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:47 pm
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luci
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 		Summary of open issues so far
We've been given a lot of material to explore already, so I thought I'd do a quick summary of unresolved questions linking to the posts where the ideas are raised, so we can break it down an knock each item off at a time:

1. Spiral: What does it mean? http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=809530#809530
Related to the mooncycle? http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31631&start=45 Who made the spiral on Private's windshield?

2. Fred's Basket: What do the words mean? The symbols? http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=810135#810135 Solved http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=810341#810341

3. Ruthie's literary quotes:
a) "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom." Attributed to Thomas Jefferson. The Book of Wisdom is a religious text also known as The Wisdom of Solomon. http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=810110#810110
b) "A book must be an ice ax to break the seas frozen in our soul," by Franz Kafka. http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=809609#809609
c) Book group is reading William Golding's Lord of the Flies
d) Louise Hoskins liked The Dial Magazine under Francis Fisher Browne

4. The Lady of the Lake: missing book from the library, who took it, why, what is its significance? http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=809707#809707

5. Events Calendar: why does it correspond to the moon cycle? Why has book club been put on hold on the 18th & 25th of March? Why was Valentine's Day marked with a red X?

6. Bells: what are they from, and why do only some people hear them?

7. They're Coming Home: who are 'they'?

8. Private: Who is Private? Is private being entirely honest with us, as there's some inconsistency?
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=810127#810127

9. Louise Hoskins: Was she the first to hear bells? How did she die? There's a mystery about her.

10. Peg's Blog: A few odd things that could have meaning. http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=809697#809697
a) blank spaces amongst the text http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=809703#809703
b) bolded text
c) all CAPS text
d) draws attention to photos of snowmen and the lake

11. Snow Mounds: What are they?

12. Williwaw: significance of the pond and streamed being named this? http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=810439#810439

13. Book Club: People who are part of this seem to be close to the library, a faction? Chosen by Ruthie and mostly from founding families.

Timeline here http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=809709#809709 UPDATED http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=810460#810460

Characters here http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=809698#809698

Locations here http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=810439#810439

Let me know if there are any more questions you want to add to the list, or if you have a solve to something.

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whitellama
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 		Youtube Video
I went searching for the song and found this. The lyrics aren't exactly the same as what was posted but it's the same song.



YouTube: Link


At the moment I am matching the marked cards (the squares, Xs, and dots) to letters. While it seems that enaxor may have already found what the hidden message suggests I will continue to make sure no information is left out.

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luci
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 		well done enaxor, that was quick Smile looks a good fit.

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jotadinero
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 		Nice summary Luci. I haven't solved anything, however I did suggest to Peg that she should ask Fred about Greensleeves.

Time to listen to the song. Thanks whitellama

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whitellama
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 		Notecard Pigpen Deciphered
So like I said I would, I finished deciphering the pig-pen cipher on the images, and wrote the letter represented on each card. I haven't stopped yet to think about their meaning but that will be my next step. All 15 images are attached in a zipped folder.
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