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Verdett
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Ouroborus wrote:
I'd imagine our answer would be one of three things:

1. "Running"

2. "I don't remember"

3. "I don't know what you are talking about"



(BONUS: "That's just Evan being Evan.")


This made me smile Smile

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mocchi Lookbehindyou wrote:
Ok, just want to throw my two cents in here. It's been discussed that Linnie could be the fourth in the mining town 4. It's also been discussed that Jessa=Linnie. If this were to be true the implications would be huge.

It is possible that Jessa didn't leave as everyone believes and is now with SM. Following this logic, if this were to also be true the voicemail could be a distraction/red herring set by SM, The Rake, or Habit. That would also mean one down, three to go which really frightens me.



I thought it had been established via the letters that Stephanie was the fourth of the Mining Town Four, not Linnie.

This is entirely possible as well, but I've not seen any proof of it personally. That doesn't mean there isn't proof and I just haven't seen it. If anyone knows of any, please let me know or post a link. I was more thinking aloud so to speak. You all are the only one's I have to talk to about this kind of stuff as noone I know in rl would have any interest.


Awww, no one reads my posts ;-; /ego deflates
Like I said before, there is definitely proof. In the first note we got (dated 10.27.1981) the mining town four have succumbed to their "personal demons." A fifth patient - a girl from "the vicious New York attacks" - is close to succumbing, as well. If Linnie was one of the mining town four, she would have succumbed and it wouldn't really make sense for Corenthal to take her away for mental safety reasons.
Still, operating on that note alone, it is still possible, I suppose, to argue that she's the fourth. However, with the latest note we got - the one in which Jeff, Evan, Vinnie, and Steph warp to Memorytown - there is no mention of Linnie at all. It stands to reason that, if she had been adopted at that point, she would have at least been MENTIONED in the note - i.e. something along the lines of 'even Linnie is gone' or 'only Linnie remains' or what have you. But she wasn't, which indicates that she hadn't been adopted at that point, which means Steph is the girl from the mining town four, who were adopted as a group (and before the "New York attacks").
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On the subject of the Corenthal/ Mining Town 4, it seems we have proof Damsel/Steph is the fourth. All the same, something feels off about her involvement (thus far) as well. Am I the only one who thinks that? Like something doesn't quite add up yet. Which is a shame because I like her mucho. I just can't trust the situation yet.

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lunaticfish wrote:
On the subject of the Corenthal/ Mining Town 4, it seems we have proof Damsel/Steph is the fourth. All the same, something feels off about her involvement (thus far) as well. Am I the only one who thinks that? Like something doesn't quite add up yet. Which is a shame because I like her mucho. I just can't trust the situation yet.


Could you expand on this a little? I'd be interested in hearing more of your thoughts about this.

For me, I think it's a little problematic that Steph's introduction into the main EMH stream coincided with their big production slowdown. Whatever they have or had planned for her is just not materializing for us yet, so she still feels kind of tacked on--moreso, oddly, than when she was just the CYSTW girl.

I suspect, or maybe hope, her role will become more clear once we learn more about the relationship between the Mining Town Four and the Hybrid Trio Plus One. For now, though, it's still not clear (at least to me) what the purpose of her character might be.

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lunaticfish wrote:
On the subject of the Corenthal/ Mining Town 4, it seems we have proof Damsel/Steph is the fourth. All the same, something feels off about her involvement (thus far) as well. Am I the only one who thinks that? Like something doesn't quite add up yet. Which is a shame because I like her mucho. I just can't trust the situation yet.


Pretty much this. I like her too, but that doesn't stop her presence from feeling...strange. Mattwan is right to question her role -- when she was "only" Damsel she contributed to the story by creating conflict between the boys and giving them someone to, well, rescue. Now she's free and living in Evan's basement -- apparently without any question or complaint from his parents or sister, which I find Just Plain Weird -- and...what is she doing? Its good that she's as safe as she can be and with friends, but she's not contributing anything.

Steph shouldn't turn into a real damsel in distress. She needs to be active. I can understand if passivity is a character trait, but that needs to made explicit, not left to us to figure out. Right now it just looks like she's nebulous and just another mouth to feed, which is disappointing when she was built up to be so much more.

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I don't think she's at all lacking as a character. I think her activity will increase as the story goes forward. What I was saying is that what exactly her involvement will be I am unsure of. Mattwan, you kind of summed up part of what I meant- She's not out of place to me, but there's something off about it. I know she'll be more involved soon, but whether that will be good, indifferent, or even bad involvement is what I'm concerned about. I want to trust her and I really see no reason not to- her situation just feels... off.
Luipaard, I didn't really mean anything like that. Sure she's still kind of an "outsider" at the moment but I'm quite open to her getting more involved. As for the whole she's staying with them with no apparent complications bit, I just chalk that up to suspention of disbelief. We're probably meant to just go with it. :>

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*Suspension. I can spell.
And about her being a "Damsel in distress", I don't think that's where it's going at all.

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I think she's incredibly funny in the scenes we've seen her in with the guys since her escape, but as of now her purpose is a question mark. There was all the hype regarding her eventually meeting the guys, then getting imprisoned, then being broken out, but ultimately she had little of import to tell them. Maybe that's because she's still hiding something, or maybe it's because SM wanted them to let her out to reunite the 4 - which I think is very likely. So I think her full purpose is yet to be determined. I do think they could stand to give us a lot more of her on-camera.

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Wait wait wait. Just had an idea here.
Whilst randomly pontificating here at work about those delicious Cadburry creme eggs, and how I will soon be within the season to procure one, methought about Easter itself.
AND THEN BAM, MOTHERFUCKER.
So obviously we've all connected this fact before, Easter = Rabbit connectionderp. But I never exactly thought about it, thought about it. I may know next to nothing about religion, especially of the Christian kind, but I do know Easter is a celebration or remembrance of the Resurrection, right? In one of the Corenthal papers, we have the story about HABIT "re-enacting" the scene of the Crucifixion with a warren of dead rabbits. I doubt anyone has failed to notice the sacrificial nature of the Trials, and that there is a good chance the winner will too have a large sacrifice to make. Perhaps Easter will be the end of the Trials. That doesn't signify much, except that if it is on Easter or somehow a major Trail event occurs there, we will have a level of depth on the possible resurrection of the characters tree and a little closer look into HABIT himself.
Again, it's sort of an anticlimax of a realization, but the more you think about it, the more it seems like this could be a significant clue.
Or I'm just bored as hell. It could also be that.

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lunaticfish wrote:
Wait wait wait. Just had an idea here.
Whilst randomly pontificating here at work about those delicious Cadburry creme eggs, and how I will soon be within the season to procure one, methought about Easter itself.
AND THEN BAM, MOTHERFUCKER.
So obviously we've all connected this fact before, Easter = Rabbit connectionderp. But I never exactly thought about it, thought about it. I may know next to nothing about religion, especially of the Christian kind, but I do know Easter is a celebration or remembrance of the Resurrection, right? In one of the Corenthal papers, we have the story about HABIT "re-enacting" the scene of the Crucifixion with a warren of dead rabbits. I doubt anyone has failed to notice the sacrificial nature of the Trials, and that there is a good chance the winner will too have a large sacrifice to make. Perhaps Easter will be the end of the Trials. That doesn't signify much, except that if it is on Easter or somehow a major Trail event occurs there, we will have a level of depth on the possible resurrection of the characters tree and a little closer look into HABIT himself.
Again, it's sort of an anticlimax of a realization, but the more you think about it, the more it seems like this could be a significant clue.
Or I'm just bored as hell. It could also be that.

This idea was actually brought up a while ago, if I remember correctly. Now that we're closer to Easter, it's starting to look more and more likely.

I can't decide if that would be awesome or horrifying. Or both. Probably both.
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lunaticfish wrote:
I don't think she's at all lacking as a character. I think her activity will increase as the story goes forward. What I was saying is that what exactly her involvement will be I am unsure of. Mattwan, you kind of summed up part of what I meant- She's not out of place to me, but there's something off about it. I know she'll be more involved soon, but whether that will be good, indifferent, or even bad involvement is what I'm concerned about. I want to trust her and I really see no reason not to- her situation just feels... off.
Luipaard, I didn't really mean anything like that. Sure she's still kind of an "outsider" at the moment but I'm quite open to her getting more involved. As for the whole she's staying with them with no apparent complications bit, I just chalk that up to suspention of disbelief. We're probably meant to just go with it. :>


I was really just using your quote as a jump-off point to voice my own frustrations. I figured you had something different in mind. Smile I'm expecting that she'll get more involved as time goes on, I'm just frustrated with her passivity as it is now.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a tie-in with the Easter holiday, either -- that'll be April 24th, so mark your calenders, Hybrids.
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lunaticfish wrote:
In one of the Corenthal papers, we have the story about HABIT "re-enacting" the scene of the Crucifixion with a warren of dead rabbits.


I always took this to be Corenthal's interpretation of Slenderman's "Impaled on a tree" trick, hinting that Habit had seen a collection of bodies disposed of that way, which may be why he went crazy.

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Luipaard wrote:


I wouldn't be surprised if there was a tie-in with the Easter holiday, either -- that'll be April 24th, so mark your calenders, Hybrids.


Inb4 Trial 7 is posted that day.

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@re: new video

I'm way late to the party, but I have to say the video made me more confused than when I started. I have to thank you guys for explicating the whole possible Rose/William/&c family tree. That helped me make sense of things.

I do have an observation to make. Someone asked if Deadgirl is Linnie or not, and there was some discussion about her age and her possibly being Linnie's daughter. I'd like to point out if the Fairmount Four[1] can be timeskipped/de-aged/reincarnated/whatever so that they appear both in old documents and today, why can't Linnie go trough the same thing?

@re: Damsel/Steph

I think the reason she hasn't been doing much lately is, actually, OOG. If you take a look, the last video where they investigated something, or went on a road-trip was "Damsel". Sure, there was the issue with the "Now you're thinking with portals" house, but that was not as well planned -- they did end up taking a trip, but an unexpected one. I think they didn't have the time to do another "Centralia"-caliber video and that Steph would be of significance in such an excursion.

Of course, another option is that she hasn't shared everything with them. Either because she doesn't want to, or because she is prevented from speaking by some compelling force. Or she could have shared important information that is being kept from us. If Evan had his way, we wouldn't even know about Rose, after all.

Or it could be that her entire future role is to hang around in the background and snark incessantly at the guys. I am amazingly okay with that. Very Happy

@re: Easter HABITs of rabbits

Would have totally missed that. In my neck of the woods, rabbits and Easter aren't particularly connected.

I'm not sure that a replica of a slendermurder could be mistaken for the crucifixion, though. It depends on what version of Slendy's M.O. is recognized in EMH. I thought it was the standard body impaled on tree, organs in bags around the tree version. Or does he impale the bodies directly, like a shrike?

[1] The canon name for them seems to be the Mining Town Four but I am an alliteration addict. Smile

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Yeah I never got how you go from Resurrection to rabbits, but it's definitely an American thing, as much so as Slenderman is an American folktale- so canonically it works. (Pun.)
Luipaard, nah I totally got ya now. XD
Yeah I was pretty sure others had figured this out but it was such a wham kind of moment for me, not because it could be Trial 7 date, but because of the implications of the "crucifixion/resurrection" idea. And also sometimes I'm slow in the way that I stare at obviously significant things, think to myself "that's significant", but think it for the totally wrong reasons and miss completely the actual significance until like way after everyone else already sucked the marrow from its bones and moved on. That's just how I do sometimes.

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