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Alliance, Ohio Train Wreck of 1979
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Kraten
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 		 Inconsistencies from the Truth to the Conspiracies site Docs
Inconsistencies from the Truth to the Conspiracies site Docs
Truths From Records:
Date - on September 12, 1979 at 4:30am
Location - Alliance Railroad yard
Details - No hazardous materials were involved, railroad workers were used during the clean up, No Guard or Military or Foam in Pictures, No telephone Poles in pictures of Real Crash

Docs Provided:
Date – At around 12 am and if you use the Train Order June 7, 1979
Location – Level Crossing off Hill Road, Near Foot of E. Ninth St. – Guess What Kids – NO HILL road No E Ninth or 9Th in or around Alliance
Details – White Foam used for Diesel Spills Surrounded the Train. National guard called in given the extent of damage and debris. Telephone Poles and Official (police/Military types in Pictures)

Other items:
Train Order sheet talks of MONON and FRANKFORT, Both of wich I think may be a Ref to Indiana no OH << Needs more looking into
Paper talks of Blocked Streets
Paper talks of large Crowds and amateur cameramen
Paper speaks of Tropical Storm Fredric (Third Sheet) – This came through in Mid Sept of 79
Paper on (Third sheet) also brings back the 4:30 am time frame – and again talks of railroad workers were used during the clean up, No Guard or Military. I think the Third strip may be legit (for the most part) But Articles 1 and 2 were modified for US ( by Someone or By the PM's)

My Brain Hurts now – To back to Real Life for a while. Bang Head

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Kraten
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 		Boulevard Station
Ok Still here ...

The Train Order (I FEEL) is not from our crash at all

Monon management came to understand that the Indianapolis branch's only real potential was as a passenger line. In 1922 Boulevard Station was constructed to serve the north side of Indianapolis as well as the State Fair Ground, which were just east of the tracks at 38th Street. The station boasted floral displays, adequate parking and for many years a house track for Pullman cars that were part of the Mid-night Special.

http://www.monon.monon.org/bygone/indy.html

I think this Doc is all about Indiana not Ohio. That may be why it may have been modified or perhaps why we do not see the whole doc.

Now... Back to Life

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Xeno Lambrose
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 		The "we" looks like it might be "went" and the whole area above looks like it's been scrubbed, but letters and word are partially fading through.

I'm recovering from the flu and just noticed this--I'll have to get up to speed.

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 		Re: Boulevard Station
Kraten wrote:

I think this Doc is all about Indiana not Ohio. That may be why it may have been modified or perhaps why we do not see the whole doc.


Indianapolis is the last city the train would have gone through on its way to the air force base near Dayton.
I might be wrong but the conspiracy article doesn't seem to give a location for the June wreck, although the idea of passing it off a wreck at another location is a weird one!

The 'contradicting local article' looks to me like it the images have been made artificailly instead of real crash photos, but I can't prove it, not sure if there's anything interesting in them yet.

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FilmEdge
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Tolomir wrote:
revalistic -> vital records ?
maybe there is a vital record of Stark,Ohio where we can find info of the Dr.'s we're searching for.
maybe i'm just thinking too complicated Very Happy


revalistic - > vitas relic

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iSee
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 		Train order form 19
The train order form they used is from the Union Pacific Rail Road Company. Found a similar one, maybe it helps...

Source: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1096002814050037785ZLXWBA
form 19.jpg
 Description   Form 19 train order
 Filesize   579.61KB
    111 Time(s)

Unfortunately, this file is no longer in our archives.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:17 am
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benny4life4
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 		 Not a gamejack
Tying up loose ends
If you are puzzling if this is a gamejack, I hope to convince you it isn't.
A group of my friends ran across this site early in our research of super 8 just looking for ohio train derailments. There are pictures in "public" record of engine 1912 in conjuntion with this derailment. The best evidence for a non-gamejack is the creation of this wiki page that falls in line with the iron man trailer release. How would you gamejack from day one....we just got the email that links engine 1912 to sties. Bluelion48 and major kolveras, wikipage editors, have wiki experience with cloverfield as well. If posts could be as blatant as this:

http://conspiracy.wikia.com/wiki/Events

Hmmm...The pictures are real, I called the Alliance, Ohio Library in October to verify. I believe the docs are doctored. especially since one of the articles mentions a nearby steel mill, and platform where "amateur cameramen who mingled with the officials"! Hmmmm....again, super8 cameras, of course.

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