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buddhazpriest
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Pseudo_One wrote:
Cam 4 looks like a dud camera, no footage.

Looks like 2 males walk up the stairs from camera 2 (shorter male carrying a bag)

Walk into line shot of camera 3 where 2 other males are awaiting them. Looks like a deal that goes pear shaped. Maybe a deal to get back Jess? Maybe a deal with Armucom as one of the men seems to have some combat training.


I think Armucom is almost definitely in on this. The man who retaliates and shoots the two ambushers seems to have training, but I also think that the two getting ambushed knew that the deal was dirty somehow, and didn't want to be caught with the package.

The two men are trying to be sneaky. The guy who shoots the other two looks like he is either ejecting the last few rounds from the magazine of the gun at the end of the conflict, or he is wiping his prints off the gun. I'd bet he's wiping the prints off the gun, and if so, why? If he was just defending himself he has no reason to wipe his prints especially since the conflict is on video. The only reason he would wipe his prints would be to conceal his identity... Fishy, no?

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rumorhasit
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buddhazpriest wrote:
Pseudo_One wrote:
Cam 4 looks like a dud camera, no footage.

Looks like 2 males walk up the stairs from camera 2 (shorter male carrying a bag)

Walk into line shot of camera 3 where 2 other males are awaiting them. Looks like a deal that goes pear shaped. Maybe a deal to get back Jess? Maybe a deal with Armucom as one of the men seems to have some combat training.


I think Armucom is almost definitely in on this. The man who retaliates and shoots the two ambushers seems to have training, but I also think that the two getting ambushed knew that the deal was dirty somehow, and didn't want to be caught with the package.

The two men are trying to be sneaky. The guy who shoots the other two looks like he is either ejecting the last few rounds from the magazine of the gun at the end of the conflict, or he is wiping his prints off the gun. I'd bet he's wiping the prints off the gun, and if so, why? If he was just defending himself he has no reason to wipe his prints especially since the conflict is on video. The only reason he would wipe his prints would be to conceal his identity... Fishy, no?


You make some very interesting points. I wonder why he wants to concil his identity also.

I think the men are from the Armucom. but at the same time the two that got shot could also be Armucom. I guess we will jsut have to wait and see how this plays out.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:18 pm
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JohnArgo
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 		Maybe the shooter would want to conceal his identity because a) he might not have known the cameras were there, and b) he did not want the fact that he was involved in the deal to get out. It may've been secret enough that he didn't want the police to reveal he was connected with the deaths/meeting.

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buddhazpriest
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 		Well yeah, obviously whatever is being transported is not only super valuable/wanted but also super secret. Maybe the shooter was an escort sent by Armucom for security. But that doesn't make any sense because why wouldn't he be armed? ARG!!

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docwho2100
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 		Has anyone looked back at the Global map yet - the achievement badge is a yellow anchor - I am thinking that boat might be important? maybe??? Need to rewatch...

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Zobot257
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 		Darn darn darn. I missed the webcam! Is it still running?

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Lyriclyinclined
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 		Has anyone noticed in the MK-ULTRA video at about the 2:39 mark there is under laid audio? I don't know what it says but there is definitely something there. I don't know how to play around with audio otherwise I would isolate it, but if someone does it might be a clue.

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Lyriclyinclined
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 		Also, the questionnaires for appendix 2.1 and 2.2 appear to be written by the same person while the third is in a different hand...

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kevtoo
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 		Some thoughts
Just been mulling over what we now know.

I'm going with the working hypothesis that ZT is Dave. We know that D is technically minded so probably\ possibly has the skills to set up the secure area on the ZT site, and hack the Bell's webcam. We also know Dave is/has been on leave from UKSRI so looks like he might have had the opportunity too. He probably also has some idea what Jess was looking into : seems likely he set up the "whack a Dave" game (the music on the weblog when Jess curses about Dave messing with her folders is the whack a dave music, so he has probably seen her logs. Also the UKSRI invoice for the LSD analogue with the "love [from] Dave" post-it note).

Despite the voice-changer it would seem that ZT has a Northern Irish accent, so would be useful to know if Dave is N.Irish.
Assuming that pharmucom/armucom/govt are keeping tabs on the ZT posts I am concerned that Dave might be the next to go missing...

On to the video feed from BD. It seems that the 2 people we first see are going there with the intention of either exchanging that satchel for something or storing/ concealing it there. seems likely that is the meeting talked of in the wiretap call. No idea who any of the 5 people are (2 coming up the stairs, 2 ambushers and a mysterious third party who "cleans up") but it does seem likely that some of them are from armucom/pharmucom or govt. As others have said, looks like the hero of the set-piece has some sort of military training with the way he deals with the ambushers. Video probably raises more questions than it answers.

Also has anyone else noticed that Pharmucom have research bases at all the places shown on the GLL map? (wiki article). In particular in Yemen where the "secret base" is located. Look like military planes there, so likely to be a close link between pharmucom/armucom and the military. Looking more likely that Jess has been taken by pharmucom/armucom/military group.

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zampa
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 		Email from Zero Tolerence
Zero Tolerance - Interrogation after Shoot Out

At Bells Docks last night, I hacked the cameras and recorded what happened, log in to toleratenothing.org to view the shocking recording.

We have captured one of the victims of the shootout, he is barely alive! This may be our only chance to find the truth behind the shootout, Pharmucom and to find Jessica. We are holding him in a secure facility, and have more evidence I will upload later.

I need your help in asking the right questions, email me your questions so we can get to the root of this, I will be showing the interrogation live, asking our questions once he regains consciousness, if he does!

Thank you all for your help and support this far in our quest for truth. We are forming a wall of evidence we can use both against Pharmucom and finding Jessica.

Zero Tolerance

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rumorhasit
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 		New Post on ZT website
Iif you go to the Zero Tolerance site you see a new post saying:

I have some evidence I want to handover in person. This is a call out, if you intend to take part in the handover, do it here. I don't feel happy storing it in my research, so have stored in on a tablet device, it is vital this goes to the right person to share the burden of my findings. I'm worried we may have moles in our community.

There is a link on here after "Do it here" which takes you to the sign in page and gives another achievement.

Where do you think he recieved this information from?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:41 am
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Minz
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 		Re: New Post on ZT website
rumorhasit wrote:
Iif you go to the Zero Tolerance site you see a new post saying:

I have some evidence I want to handover in person. This is a call out, if you intend to take part in the handover, do it here. I don't feel happy storing it in my research, so have stored in on a tablet device, it is vital this goes to the right person to share the burden of my findings. I'm worried we may have moles in our community.

There is a link on here after "Do it here" which takes you to the sign in page and gives another achievement.

Where do you think he recieved this information from?


I think you are really only meant to unlock that achievement if you actually intend to go to Belfast and meet with the guy.
Until I know more about when and how this will go down I wont sign up for this achievement as I cannot guarantee that I'll be there to get whatever he is offering.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:03 am
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admur
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 		 handover
I am just outside Belfast, so I can go to the meet - if anyone wants to use me by proxy, I am happy to share all the info I get if there is a real meeting!

p.s. Here are mu thoughts on the questions that ZT should ask during the interrogation:-

1. Who do you work for / who sent you? Armucom / Pharmucom?
2. What was in the package?
3. Why did you try to steal the package?
4. Who were you ambushing
5. Where is the package now?
6. Where is Jessica / why has she been kidnapped
7. Where were you supposed to take the package?
8. Do you want us to drop you to a hospital for treatment?

Any more questions we need answers to?

Cheers
Adam

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admur
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 		Re: Email from Zero Tolerence
So now we know that the third person at the ambush site was ZT himself collecting his barely alive prize!

Looking forward to the Interrogation!

zampa wrote:
Zero Tolerance - Interrogation after Shoot Out

At Bells Docks last night, I hacked the cameras and recorded what happened, log in to toleratenothing.org to view the shocking recording.

We have captured one of the victims of the shootout, he is barely alive! This may be our only chance to find the truth behind the shootout, Pharmucom and to find Jessica. We are holding him in a secure facility, and have more evidence I will upload later.

I need your help in asking the right questions, email me your questions so we can get to the root of this, I will be showing the interrogation live, asking our questions once he regains consciousness, if he does!

Thank you all for your help and support this far in our quest for truth. We are forming a wall of evidence we can use both against Pharmucom and finding Jessica.

Zero Tolerance


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Vetis
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 		Re: New Post on ZT website
Minz wrote:
rumorhasit wrote:
Iif you go to the Zero Tolerance site you see a new post saying:

I have some evidence I want to handover in person. This is a call out, if you intend to take part in the handover, do it here. I don't feel happy storing it in my research, so have stored in on a tablet device, it is vital this goes to the right person to share the burden of my findings. I'm worried we may have moles in our community.

There is a link on here after "Do it here" which takes you to the sign in page and gives another achievement.

Where do you think he recieved this information from?


I think you are really only meant to unlock that achievement if you actually intend to go to Belfast and meet with the guy.
Until I know more about when and how this will go down I wont sign up for this achievement as I cannot guarantee that I'll be there to get whatever he is offering.


I registered for it but left a comment saying it depends on the place. The achievement isnt a bonus one so it would seem strange to miss out on it.

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