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[VIDEO] Entry 36
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shoeler
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Magyk wrote:
Water condenses underneath a car in a number of places, A\C connections, crankcase, etc. It's not hard to believe that all those spots came from condensation under a car that was parked for more than twenty minutes."


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OOG: though to be fair, this was most likely shot in winter, where they wouldn't have had AC on (not that i believe it in at all in the first place, an extremely pixelated and distorted couple blocks of black in a parking lot most likely plot irrelevant). that's actually probably why they even did it distortion-y in the first place: to hide the fact that all the trees didn't have leafs and other seasonal giveaways.


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dfw
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Orrrrr they could have been there already before they started filming. It's not that uncommon to have spots on the ground like that in parking lots.

I mostly find it too hard to believe it could possibly be Tim's blood. How could he on a broken leg manage to sneak onto..or into..Alex's car, and when they got to the park, where could he have gone to without them seeing?

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YamaKami
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And even if Tim were lying bleeding in the trunk of Alex's car (which I think is unlikely), would there really be enough blood to somehow *seep out* of the car?

My guess is oil spots. Either from Alex's car or a car that was parked there before.

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I have very little in terms of narrative as to how this all fits together, but a few thoughts that have occured to me that don't seem to have come up yet (apologies if I missed something, I read the first half of the thread a few days ago and may have forgotten):


1. Alex's car is parked... where exactly? We see about 20 seconds of driving before we reach it, but there's no real indication of at what point in the journey the camera starts rolling. It can't be that far away if he headed to the shack on foot. This does lend weight to the "Alex was following Jay/Tim" theory, in that its a lot easier to hide / stalk on foot than in a car - the question I'd ask is how long was he there? Did he predict when Jay would be back, or has he been camped out in his car waiting? Assuming he knows what Jay's car looks like, could he have even been following along the road from Jay's hotel, then parked a little beyond? That would add another dimension to the whole "easy to find" line...

2. A lot of people have been pointing out that Alex's actions seemed very calculated, quite methodical. But, if he was specifically after violent revenge once he'd lured Tim out, wouldn't a calculating Alex have come armed? Instead he hits him with a paving slab after Jay refuses to give him Tim's weapon. It seems the decision to batter Tim was made in the heat of the moment.


Just some thoughts, don't know where to take them really.

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Susil wrote:
1. Alex's car is parked... where exactly? We see about 20 seconds of driving before we reach it, but there's no real indication of at what point in the journey the camera starts rolling. It can't be that far away if he headed to the shack on foot. This does lend weight to the "Alex was following Jay/Tim" theory, in that its a lot easier to hide / stalk on foot than in a car - the question I'd ask is how long was he there? Did he predict when Jay would be back, or has he been camped out in his car waiting? Assuming he knows what Jay's car looks like, could he have even been following along the road from Jay's hotel, then parked a little beyond? That would add another dimension to the whole "easy to find" line...



It seemed to me that Jay follows Alex in his car, they both park, and then Jay throws his fit. When we see Alex, he's on the driver's side of his car and appears to be climbing out.

As for how long (or even if) he's been waiting on Jay/Masky, I have no clue. There's really no way to tell until someone throws the answer out to us.

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Susil wrote:
2. A lot of people have been pointing out that Alex's actions seemed very calculated, quite methodical. But, if he was specifically after violent revenge once he'd lured Tim out, wouldn't a calculating Alex have come armed? Instead he hits him with a paving slab after Jay refuses to give him Tim's weapon. It seems the decision to batter Tim was made in the heat of the moment.


Just some thoughts, don't know where to take them really.


This is a good point; if Alex had meant to cause Tim some serious harm, he would probably have brought something to hurt him with. Maybe he had meant to meet up with Jay, but knew that Tim had shown up in the meantime and decided that they needed to do something now to deal with him. That would point a little less towards Alex being a cold and calculating type, to someone who's gotten very used to dealing with surprise drop-ins, using what's at hand... and that would fit just fine with what we've seen so far.

I hope we get a new video soon. This one was definitely very awesome!

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So I've been a hermit for the last 3 days and am just now getting to post Sad I'll keep most of my theorizing out of this because I'm being lazy and not reading the first 16 pages Razz
Entry 35, glad to see the return of Alex! It seemed to me that Jay and Alex returned to the house together and seein Alex wasn't a huge surprise, but it seems like they had just met up REALLY recently (thus the whole "easy to find" argument). Quite pleased by the big reveal of the worst kept secret on teh internetz! Twas like "OMG TIMMY?! IT WAS YOUR SIDEBURNS WHO WAS STALKING ME?! :O "
Ahem...but I digress...
Entry 36, so happy to see Jay get some fuzz on his peaches and yell at Alex for disabling the 'burns! I think Alex has "gone rogue" since entry 26 was filmed, as he seems quite quick to jump on the violence train. Jay...<3 the sarcasm Smile nothing sexier than yelling and sarcasm Wink
I agree that it was not Alex's plan to hurt Tim, or else he would've packed a weapon other that the cement block o' doom...
So in conclusion, great entry, lots of character development, adorable sarcasm, and creepy ominous distortion...EPIC WIN.

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I've come up with three possibilities:

1) Alex meets up with Jay then takes him to the abandoned building where he tells Jay to go in to "see" something (hence why Jay says that he "cannot see anything", as if he is talking/shouting to somebody. Perhaps the green envelope that Jay missed?) Then Alex sees Masky sneak in through the back door to surprise attack Jay or whatever, and so Alex goes in and breaks his leg.

2) Alex was sent a similar tape, telling him to go to the address, sees that Jay is there and goes in and breaks Masky's leg.

3) Alex has been tracking down Masky, who was stalking Jay.

4) Masky was preparing them both a surprise party.

I reckon that TTA and Masky are still different people. While I think TTA is luring Jay/Alex to the Operator, while Masky is working to prevent Jay/Alex being slendified. I have a firm belief that the mask protects Masky from being slendified, and has always seen to be almost trying to ward Jay away from danger.

Alex wanting the camera turned off in the previous entry probably doesn't mean he doesn't want it on camera, I don't see why this would be a problem. I'm thinking that he is aware that camera = operator, as that is what happened during Entry 26, and he doesn't want Jay being slendified?

Also, there is no filmed discussion between Alex and Jay about why he hasn't said anything. The internet is a vast place and it wouldn't be difficult for Alex to get a hold of him online.

TL;DR
Alex and Jay met before Entry 35
Masky is trying to protect Jay
TTA is trying to lead them to the Operator (the ark?)
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That was how I thought things had happened (I was so sure Jay was talking to someone else rather than himself) but the theory's been proved wrong now. Jay himself states that he ran into Alex at the house unexpectedly.

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IonCharge wrote:


2) Alex was sent a similar tape, telling him to go to the address, sees that Jay is there and goes in and breaks Masky's leg.

3) Alex has been tracking down Masky, who was stalking Jay.


These two seem the most likely, and possibly both of them are what's happening. I don't think they met up before 35, or even that Alex expected Jay to be there. In 35, the "Jay?" seems like he's surprised to see him there. Though, he could just be putting on an act for Jay.

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8bitFilk wrote:
That was how I thought things had happened (I was so sure Jay was talking to someone else rather than himself) but the theory's been proved wrong now. Jay himself states that he ran into Alex at the house unexpectedly.


True, but Jay only knows as much about these tapes as we do, and he could easily infer them in a different way. He is not a reliable narrator. Hoping the Green Envelope has some significance... (maybe something about ToTheArk?)

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Oscar Langley
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What's this about a green envelope?

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Oscar Langley wrote:
What's this about a green envelope?


On the bookshelf in Entry #35 when J is mutter to himself, there is a visible green envelope or folder. Its unclear if there is significance for it, or if it was a OOG mistake (like its a script or something similar that was placed there and not noticed until they were finished filming)

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The Pied Piper
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So much static, Slendy must be pissed.

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desteef
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Hello, and forst post and blah bla blah.
Now, to turn to the 'Alex = TTA' theory, I might have an idea.

We have probably all seen TiMasky in the TTA videos, and many people reasoned that this means that Alex CAN'T be TTA, but I think it's possible.
My idea is that Alex IS TTA, and edited the TTA videos, while Masky was the 'face' of the TTA account.
But why did Alex crush TiMasky's leg?
I think that somewhere along the road they got a huge argument and Alex tried to kill TiMasky, and that this is why Alex 'should have done worse'.

Thoughts?

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