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Geneaux486
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He also made it a point to wait for totheark to post a response to entry 35, so he at least seems to think they're related. Maybe it was Tim's violent behavior in 35 that made J start to question whether or not he was also making youtube videos.

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I wasn't sure if this belongs here or in the thread specific to it's entry, but oh well, I guess it's somewhat relevant to the entire series...

Has there ever been speculation that what Alex desires of Tim in Entry 35 isn't revenge of some sort, but actually the mask? This would also go along with the speculative theory that the mask is somehow protection from the Operator, or something of the like.

It does seem unlikely because it doesn't seem obvious that Alex brought the mask with him or left it behind. If that's actually what Alex wanted, I think that it would have been made more obvious to us in Entry 36. But who knows? It could turn out to be true later.

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shaboomzies wrote:
Has there ever been speculation that what Alex desires of Tim in Entry 35 isn't revenge of some sort, but actually the mask? This would also go along with the speculative theory that the mask is somehow protection from the Operator, or something of the like.

It does seem unlikely because it doesn't seem obvious that Alex brought the mask with him or left it behind. If that's actually what Alex wanted, I think that it would have been made more obvious to us in Entry 36. But who knows? It could turn out to be true later.


This would rely on there being properties that are special to that mask individually - so Alex couldn't reproduce it. I'd say thats doubtful, in that when we've seen it does seem to be a pretty standard plastic mask. Though, there have been suggestions in series 1 about there being sort of charms, or wards. Like the bullet casing - it seems to have dropped off the radar, but if Tim did steal it (back) when in Jay's bedroom then perhaps he believed this otherwise fairly ordinary item to be a charm of some sort.



As for TTA's identity - there was a recent post in another thread that suggested TTA refered to both Alex and Tim, initially - they fell out somewhere along the way. I think there were theories a while back as to how TiMasky did all the legwork, but there was a second person (TTA) was "the brains".

Theory time: Its not entirely unreasonable to imagine that Alex, in the guise of TTA, somehow uses Tim as a proxy to get reach Jay for whatever purpose. This would fit with the way TTA uses "we/us" in videos sometimes. But somewhere along the line, Tim goes rogue. Perhaps it has something to with Jay and the way he drags the past back up. Perhaps he gets a new partner in crime - or a new Operator? Maybe he just snaps. But in any case, Alex loses his 'eyes and hands', and consequently loses the buffer between him and the whole mess he's been avoiding. So, when we see him going at Tim with a paving slab, its an anger/vengance thing - "not only did you ditch me, you ditched me and left me and my new life vulnerable".

Not wholly convinvced myself... but perhaps with a little refining it might fit? I do like the idea of Tim being the puppet that got other ideas....

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This is pointless and has probably been brought up and I didn't see it but..I'm rewatching Entry 28 and saw the Ibuprofen scene. Who in this series could probably reaaalllly use some painkillers? Hm....

But on a more serious note, the key. I haven't seen anyone mention it in a long time (I totally forgot about it even), but I don't think it was ever figured out what it was for.

Also, random theory that I just thought of: What if that's not J walking around filming in NoEntry? What if it's from even earlier, something Alex, Tim, or someone else filmed way back in the day during the first encounters with Slenderman? It just seems odd that J would separate that one clip and give it a title like that. If it was from another source, however...

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Oscar Langley wrote:
Also, random theory that I just thought of: What if that's not J walking around filming in NoEntry? What if it's from even earlier, something Alex, Tim, or someone else filmed way back in the day during the first encounters with Slenderman? It just seems odd that J would separate that one clip and give it a title like that. If it was from another source, however...

I'm still inclined to believe noentry was fairly recent, at the very earliest timeline-wise it can't be much earlier than right after Entry 26 (when the Operator shows up around Alex and Amy). Most likely it's a clip from Jay's lost seven months.

Though my evidence for this is mostly the fact that a scene from noentry also appears in Sidetone, which seems to be a reply to Entry 36. This implies that noentry is directly tied to that specific period of events (namely, the time when Jay and Alex were briefly reunited after Entry 26) somehow. Of course your theory can still be possible in this scenario, but I doubt that even totheark can be THAT oblique.

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Just bumping this thread up so doesn't fall into the black hole known as, "Page 2." Cool
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(x)The Operator(x) wrote:
Just bumping this thread up so doesn't fall into the black hole known as, "Page 2." Cool


Haha thank you. I try and do the same.

Lesse, for some speculation: someone has probably had this thought over in the 37 thread...but I think the idea that Alex being the first one to ever capture the Operator on film has been ruled out.

And it's not because of the tape being filmed by someone else; I think it's pretty clear by the time-stamps that this is a being who is much, much older than previously realized.

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Salkovich wrote:
I think it's pretty clear by the time-stamps that this is a being who is much, much older than previously realized.




I don't know. I'd assumed for a while that the Operator is an old creature. Ancient, even.

I think of it this way - he (it, whatever) has watched us for a long time. Observed. He knows how to fool human eyes, how to stalk. How to move unseen. He's had a lot of time to perfect all that. The thing is, cameras are new. Video has only been around for a century, and in the hands of the public a few decades at most. He's not used to cameras, which is why they seem to be such a curiosity or threat to him.

Does that make sense? It could even be that he's much older than humanity, sort of Cthulu style...

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Maybe the Operator is Alex's father. Now before you start picturing the slender man handing out cigars in a hospital waiting room because he just heard "It's a boy!", that's not what I meant. What I mean is that maybe this being was once Alex's father, but then death or some other occurance reduced him to what we see now. Really, I only think of that as a slight possibility because it would explain why the Operator spends so much time watching Alex, gets so close to him, but never does anything else. And this thing is definetely fixated on Alex, even after he moves away and J becomes a much more convinient victim/pawn. Regardless of who or what the Operator is, I think there's definetely something special about Alex that's made him the target of the Operator and totheark's knife.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
Maybe the Operator is Alex's father. Now before you start picturing the slender man handing out cigars in a hospital waiting room because he just heard "It's a boy!", that's not what I meant. What I mean is that maybe this being was once Alex's father, but then death or some other occurance reduced him to what we see now. Really, I only think of that as a slight possibility because it would explain why the Operator spends so much time watching Alex, gets so close to him, but never does anything else. And this thing is definetely fixated on Alex, even after he moves away and J becomes a much more convinient victim/pawn. Regardless of who or what the Operator is, I think there's definetely something special about Alex that's made him the target of the Operator and totheark's knife.


Sorry to be "that guy" but we never proved that Tim/Masky is totheark. Although it's very likely, we shouldn't jump to that conclusion. I personally am with the idea that "totheark" is more of a cult then a person.

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All evidence points to Tim being totheark. That's not to say he definetely is, but based on what we know it's the most logical conclusion we can come to.

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Q.E.D. bitches

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Jay = Unreliable narrator.

Has it struck anyone else that everyone BUT Alex in the series so far could be a maskie? It seems to me, that with entry #### and the recent tweetapocalypse that Jay is most certainly a Masky, and TTA isn't just Tim: It's Tim, Jay, Brian, and Sarah, the 4 that are "gone". My theory is that the people like Alex and Jessica, who have been marked by SM from childhood, are never actually in serious threat from SM. They are the ones who cause it for everyone else. They are SMs beacons to this world, where just by his mere being there he causes untold amounts of pain and suffering. The forest and the house aren't haunted by slenderman because he wants to, they are haunted by slenderman because that was where Alex was. The reason that the filming of MH started Slender up again is because of the fact that cameras are his portal to this world. The forest is where they were filming MH, and his house he set up with cameras all over. Jay, Tim, etc., are just being destroyed in Alex's wake while he can do nothing about it, which is why he so bravely protected his girlfriend in 26 at the danger of himself.

And that's my first post. Razz

EDIT: Forgot to add this: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f384/axels_red_rose/fourmaskies.png

While the bottom looks like a puppet and the second looks like Tim, it appears that 3 is very much not tim and number 1 is too dark to tell. Perhaps that is Jay, and Brian is dead , thus the puppet.

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Welcome to the discussion! And the forum, for that matter. It's good to see new faces jumping right into the wild mass guessing! XD

Entry ###### was almost certainly Tim. If you look, you can spot his sideburns, and he's wearing the same jacket. The image you linked to is one that's also brought up a lot in this forum -- however, aside from the skull-like mask on the bottom, all of the masks pictured are almost certainly the same mask with different levels of blurring or distortion applied to them. I think if the creators had wanted to show different masks, they would have done so much more clearly. Smile I don't think the Monday night tweetery necessarily implies that Jay has donned the mask, either -- I mean, we don't see the mask come into play anywhere in that chain of events, so that'd just be conjecture.

Not saying that Jay has 100% never donned the mask, though... it's entirely possible that he has, given the seven months we haven't heard much about yet. The problem is that at this juncture, we don't really have much proof of it either way.

The idea of people being Operator-carriers is a cool one, though... I know people've brought it up in the past, and I could totally see Alex spreading the Slendy disease like some nightmare Typhoid Mary!

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Gentlemen,
I've been thinking about the entry we're all anticipating, the one that comes out on April 4th.
Now, it's been said that this entry will be a huge "game changer" and it will be pretty big, but let me throw a random idea out there.
What if in this next entry, the entry that (possibly) caused Jay to become ill from contains the answer to the mystery behind the Ark?
What if the Ark was something that was always there in plain sight, yet never really considered?
(By the way, this is my first post. Hurray!)

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