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UberTaco
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 		A few things bother me.

First, "NO LONGER DEFINING THE TWO WITHIN" -- what does that mean? My current hunch is that whatever self-immolation Evan is to perform, it will somehow cause him to lose his dual identities as HABIT and Evan (assuming that he is currently both). It feels like some support that he is HABIT right now, but I could be wrong.

Also, the re-emergence of Noah's Ark and the Flood in our "playbook" (an apt enough pun/name, I think). I don't know why, it's just...unsettling. I can see how the flood coming to wash away the ash and prepare for another cycle would mirror the Biblical story of a global flood (sorta....ash wasn't really ever mentioned). In the Biblical account, God looked down on earth and saw that "the heart of man was only evil continually", and thus decided to wash the earth clean with a flood and start anew. It was due to Noah's piety that he and his family (and two of all land creatures) were spared.

I think we need to watch the crew a bit more carefully on the whole -- but for that we need videos. Confused

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 		Taco, the current working theory is that in every cycle, Evan and HABIT battle within and both burn in fire - self-immolation. We think HABIT is using the trials to try and circumvent that and find a new host.

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qaqa wrote:
Taco, the current working theory is that in every cycle, Evan and HABIT battle within and both burn in fire - self-immolation. We think HABIT is using the trials to try and circumvent that and find a new host.


The current theme of this cycle is water. Water puts out fire. Running with my brain-spasm about Vinnie being drowned as his eventual fate, maybe Evan killing Vinnie is the only way for him to stay separated from HABIT? Or maybe that's just HABIT taking over Vince as his new host.

I'm just throwing shit out there, ignore me.
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 		No false bottom in the chest, definitely not in the book. It's a paperback book. The machete hilt does not come apart. Unless we dropped something out of the box when initially going through it, I can't think of anything.

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 		i apologize for asking a dumb question but does anyone know where ican find a transcript of the chat? i missed the awesome IG fusion chatroom xD

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Luipaard wrote:
qaqa wrote:
Taco, the current working theory is that in every cycle, Evan and HABIT battle within and both burn in fire - self-immolation. We think HABIT is using the trials to try and circumvent that and find a new host.


The current theme of this cycle is water. Water puts out fire. Running with my brain-spasm about Vinnie being drowned as his eventual fate, maybe Evan killing Vinnie is the only way for him to stay separated from HABIT? Or maybe that's just HABIT taking over Vince as his new host.

I'm just throwing shit out there, ignore me.


No, you're right to do it, we all are.

My feeling is that Vinnie either is scheming for his own ends, or in the interests of helping the group, or he's an undercover Slendydevotee of some sort. In any event his secret actions - appearing idle but busy beneath, the notes about the Voyeur said - lead to disaster, causing him to be felled by justice's sword. I assume justice comes from the other guys. I think Evan and HABIT battling and burning out together is separate from that issue. The notes suggest to me that each of the guys, while they may tear at each other, face doom because of separate issues. Evan because of his impulsiveness, his rage and his conflict with HABIT. Vinnie because of his detachment and/or hidden agenda. Jeff because he loses first his love (Jessa) then his blood (Alex) and decides he must challenge a god (SLONDORMON).

The question is how if at all do we stop some of this from setting into motion. Can Vinnie be confronted, can Alex be saved so as to save Jeff, can Evan be helped.

LBY: Thanks so much for checking.

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 		Aw, you guys. I'll gladly take up the task of contacting the boys re: Voyeur Vince, even if your faith in my sanity is misguided. Wink

I had initially intended to address Vince directly, at least to the extent that we can direct messages to individuals through the compromised EMH email address. My thoughts are that it'd be best for him to come clean to the other guys about whatever it is he's been doing, or to encourage him not to do whatever it is he might have undertaken in the future.

Do you think it's even worth trying to direct a message to one of the boys specifically through the EMH Gmail account? And, if so, do you think it'd be best to try to direct the message to Vince, or to try to get the other guys on our side intervention-style?

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Aw, you guys. I'll gladly take up the task of contacting the boys re: Voyeur Vince, even if your faith in my sanity is misguided. Wink

I had initially intended to address Vince directly, at least to the extent that we can direct messages to individuals through the compromised EMH email address. My thoughts are that it'd be best for him to come clean to the other guys about whatever it is he's been doing, or to encourage him not to do whatever it is he might have undertaken in the future.

Do you think it's even worth trying to direct a message to one of the boys specifically through the EMH Gmail account? And, if so, do you think it'd be best to try to direct the message to Vince, or to try to get the other guys on our side intervention-style?


I'm for whatever the group is for. Do we try to get to Vinnie or do we try to go to Jeff and Evan?

This is only my take but my first instinct is that you should lay out again what we tried to tell them last night, about the cycle and the archetypes. Maybe link them to or paste in the text of the Everyman notes. Then explain them and maybe explain our theories, and add details like the issue of Vinnie's absence, his hand in creating the series, and his phone being in Alex's room. Then ask if anything is going down with Vinnie or maybe just approach this from however angle we all think is best - maybe address Vinnie directly. I think we all need to get in on this though and decide how to work it.

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I3K3E3 wrote:
i apologize for asking a dumb question but does anyone know where ican find a transcript of the chat? i missed the awesome IG fusion chatroom xD


This thread has a link to a transcript available at: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16154749/angoralog-3-21-2011.txt

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 		Ok. Since Noah's Flood was circled, I looked at that story for a minute. The title has under it (From the Chester Cycle).

Googling that, I found http://www.public.iastate.edu/~gbetcher/373/NoahFld.htm

A few thoughts I have about this:

Jeff, being the Guardian, could also represent Noah. Maybe Jessa and he DID have a fight that we don't know about. I am still unsure as to whether or not she is dead and doesn't have something to do with all of this.

"The Ark is the true church of believers, saved from destruction" - This really sticks out to me for obvious reasons.

I know I might be throwing total fluff out there at this point, but want to throw it anyway.

A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_Cycle wiki states the follwoing quote which also holds some interest:

Prior to the event the Crier read out these banns: "The Aldermen and stewards of evrie societie and Companie draw youselves to your said severall companies according to Ancient Customme and soe to appear with your said severall Companies everie man as you are Called upon paine that shall fall thereon". Such early banns exhorted each company to perform well.

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qaqa wrote:
This is only my take but my first instinct is that you should lay out again what we tried to tell them last night, about the cycle and the archetypes. Maybe link them to or paste in the text of the Everyman notes. Then explain them and maybe explain our theories, and add details like the issue of Vinnie's absence, his hand in creating the series, and his phone being in Alex's room. Then ask if anything is going down with Vinnie or maybe just approach this from however angle we all think is best. I think we all need to get in on this though and decide how to work it.


I'm totally in agreement with all of this, including the importance of consensus among us players. Maybe we should look at the likely success and failure states of each approach.

If we go directly to Vinnie, the success state is pretty obvious: He stops doing what he's been doing, or he doesn't do what he would have done. He gets filled with the spirit of unity and moves forward with the intent to keep the trio[1] together even as the other two try to fulfill their intended roles and move toward isolation.

The failure state is also pretty obvious, since we've gotten a little preview of it with Evan: Vinnie rejects the message and the messenger, feeling threatened by our awareness even (especially?) if he knows we're right. We just push him further and faster down the path toward isolation.

If we go to Jeff and Evan instead, the success state gets a little trickier. The best outcome would be them sitting down with Vince, working with him in a loving environment, getting the message across to him without pushing any buttons they know are there, and generally shoring up their rapport while stopping whatever he's doing or will do.

There's extra trickiness to this approach, though, because success on our part--success in getting the message across and inspiring action--introduces more possible failure states. I can think of two off-hand: we succeed in inspiring them, but their inspiration takes the form of turning against Vince and pushing him out; alternately, we succeed in inspiring them toward intervention, but the intervention itself fails and Vince abandons the team.

And then there's the plain vanilla failure state, in which we fail to convince Jeff and Evan to take any action at all. Vince continues on his path to destruction, and we look a little more silly or annoying in J and E's eyes.

[1] So what exactly is Steph's role in all this, anyway?

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qaqa wrote:
Luipaard wrote:
qaqa wrote:
Taco, the current working theory is that in every cycle, Evan and HABIT battle within and both burn in fire - self-immolation. We think HABIT is using the trials to try and circumvent that and find a new host.


The current theme of this cycle is water. Water puts out fire. Running with my brain-spasm about Vinnie being drowned as his eventual fate, maybe Evan killing Vinnie is the only way for him to stay separated from HABIT? Or maybe that's just HABIT taking over Vince as his new host.

I'm just throwing shit out there, ignore me.


No, you're right to do it, we all are.

My feeling is that Vinnie either is scheming for his own ends, or in the interests of helping the group, or he's an undercover Slendydevotee of some sort. In any event his secret actions - appearing idle but busy beneath, the notes about the Voyeur said - lead to disaster, causing him to be felled by justice's sword. I assume justice comes from the other guys. I think Evan and HABIT battling and burning out together is separate from that issue. The notes suggest to me that each of the guys, while they may tear at each other, face doom because of separate issues. Evan because of his impulsiveness, his rage and his conflict with HABIT. Vinnie because of his detachment and/or hidden agenda. Jeff because he loses first his love (Jessa) then his blood (Alex) and decides he must challenge a god (SLONDORMON).

The question is how if at all do we stop some of this from setting into motion. Can Vinnie be confronted, can Alex be saved so as to save Jeff, can Evan be helped.

LBY: Thanks so much for checking.


Good thoughts, all of them. I'm still inclined to believe the best of them, even though them and they're situation has gone to hell in a hand-basket. Vinnie may be under the impression that he's helping his friends with his covert activities. And for all we know, he could be; what if he's in on HABIT's scheme somehow? So revealing him may set in motion the things we're trying to prevent.

Regardless, it may be too late to save all of them. If Vince did put those security cameras in Jeff's house then he's already ass-deep in alligators. I think our options may not include averting his fate.

Which isn't to say we shouldn't try! Cool

Thank you for all your hard work Lookbehindyou, you're a superstar. <3
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Regardless, it may be too late to save all of them. If Vince did put those security cameras in Jeff's house then he's already ass-deep in alligators. I think our options may not include averting his fate.


I agree. But I'm trying to be open here. Frankly, right now I'm most worried about Alex and Evan.

And we can't forget whatever role Jessie (and the phantom Linnie, if she wasn't the body they found - even then she has a story to tell) has. She is now staying with Evan, according to him. Not to mention there's still Steph, who is not mentioned in the notes.

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 		While I don't know how helpful it could be, maybe we can try talking to/convincing Alex about this? I mean, this does involve him to a certain extent. He could give us a different perspective, hopefully? Although, there is a chance he could get freaked out by the fact that HABIT has said he will die. Just throwing the idea out there since you all seem to think the trio is compromised or will react badly. The EMH guys aren't our only choice on who to message, but they are certainly the most involved.

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 		I don't know where this leaves Steph. For a brief moment I thought we might be totally misinterpreting things and she's really the Voyeur (she did take pictures of the guys without their knowledge, and she was keeping herself distant for a while), but then I noticed the pronouns being male and discarded that idea.
Based on CYSTW, she's somehow related to the flood mentioned at the end of the Everyman notes. Or at least she knows about it. Ha, I'm almost back to Steph is Habit here.

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