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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2011
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RandomGuy26
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qaqa wrote:

Not exactly an exact science involved here

I'll say. It is difficult to use science on something we don't understand yet. Besides, they seem to have difficulty/reasons not to communicating if they even do exist.

Pre-edit: and yes, this would heavily rely on that universe existing and interventing with us in the first place. I'm not sure if that would fit. (They would somehow need access to the files, but maybe they can see them because they're in a different universe. There might not be any reason to block it out from them if it isn't them) I used to think they were just uploaded by HABIT or subconsciously. Though the seemingly impossible videos (where there shouldn't be a camera present) do seem to point to something else recording them.

I am also more than aware that WttA may not be strictly canon, but there have certainly been references we know are canon. Ie videos from the future, circled HoL passages.

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This brings me back to one thing; there is the possibility that those videos are not canon. Now, I firmly believe that they are some form of canon but, that makes no difference if those pulling the strings do not.
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NoMoreGaems
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My interpretation of WTTA was way different from all this. My assumption was it wasn't strictly canon, just a possible endgame for the series. I saw the guys as being lost in the Ark after whatever's going to go down in the last video, losing "the girls" and "the doctor" in the process. Jeff's memory seems most adversely affected, with Vinnie being traumatized (seemingly from Evan attacking him in the Slender Man video, which also seems to take place in this continuity somehow) but still able to remember how things have gone. Jeff's watching EverymanHYBRID, trying to find clues for how to escape the ark while Evan asks what episode he's watching, hence "what does he (Vince) have us doing this time?" Vinnie tries to snap Jeff out of it, pointing out they haven't been there for a few hours but a few days, and Evan tries to keep the peace as he once did back in ---, then all hell breaks loose. Jeff gets snatched up by the Rake(?), and we also learn that only the light areas are safe.

That was just my interpretation anyways, that they're not somehow alternate, archetypical versions of the characters, they're just the characters after some rough patches involving memory futzing, spatial distortion, dimensional travel, and a Slenderman-invoked attack.

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qaqa
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NoMoreGaems wrote:
My interpretation of WTTA was way different from all this. My assumption was it wasn't strictly canon, just a possible endgame for the series.


Maybe I should've rephrased my post along these lines, NMG. Yes, I agree, it's very possible it is simply a possible outcome, but I think whatever riff it is, it does have its roots in the larger storyline and is worth study.

I wasn't convinced their memories had been fucked with in it, though. I may have to watch it again but I thought they simply were versions of the guys who had not made those videos.

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Admittedly, it's not really stated either way, but I based my assumption on this:
Vince recoils from Evan, and has wounds on him that match the wounds from Slender Man, which we then see a clip of. I took this to indicate this video takes place after (shortly after, in fact, maybe a couple days at the most) that video.
Also, lemme repost my analysis from the old EMH thread...

NoMoreGaems wrote:
For what it's worth, my interpretation of the WttA conversation:
Evan: Jeff, whatchya lookin' at? (Self Explanatory) Ahhh, what's he have us doing this time? (Asking what stunts and exercises they were doing in this video, to find out what episode of EverymanHYBRID Jeff is watching)
Jeff: Some... fitness series. (This is a response to "Whatchya lookin' at?", Jeff doesn't sound like he recognizes the video and his slow response indicates he's not yet really processed the second question, he's having some sort of mental damage)
Evan: Fitness? (Since it's been so long since they actually did anything fitness related on the series) Hmmphh, look at Vinnie's Hair. (Cheering Jeff up)
Jeff: It was a long time ago. (Seems to be recognizing the video now, or perhaps is responding to "What does he have us doing this time")
Evan: Yeah. I'm gonna go check on Vinnie, alright? You okay? (Jeff nods in response) Alright bro, take it easy.


Also, afterwards Vinnie tells Jeff he's looking for clues that aren't even there, and Jeff reminds him that the doctor and the girls are gone. I just figured it's our Hybrids, just after some event we haven't seen yet.

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If this theory about

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multiple iterations of Slenderfuckery, and ArkEMH trying to help our EMH boys


is correct, and I'm going to assume it is for the purposes of this post, let's consider a few things.

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It was suggested that HABIT could be the connection. If that's true, if he's responsible for the hidden videos, that means all sorts of weird shit.

I re-watched all the hidden videos under this assumption.

The first video is almost entirely footage of the guys discussing all the weird things that had happened up 'til then. Whether it's from the Arkverse or our 'verse doesn't really matter, it just means the circle of Slenderfuckery is almost exact in nature. Under the HABIT theory, we can assume this was more or less for our benefit anyway.

The second video is rather startling though. One line in particular jumps out at me: "It just sounds like we're just running around doing the same thing over and over again." This makes me think of what Mattwan said about each iteration being able to watch their successors. Not sure what to think about that though.

Partway through watching the third hidden video, I started to wonder if, in the Arkverse, they've already seen how "our" EMH's fate has played out, and these videos were ArkEMH sending back the completed "future" footage to try and warn or inform them. But, given the timing of the videos, it's possible they were either delayed, or instead sent to us, the viewers. Interesting thought: ArkEMH knows they can't directly contact current EMH, but they can contact us. Perhaps they're trying to nudge us in the right direction. The third video was the first time we'd heard of Dr. Corenthal. They're guiding us.

Returning again to the idea that HABIT is the one helping ArkEMH, maybe he's doing this 'cause he knows there's only so much we can do with it. He's playing us, as he's always played us.


Cutting off here. Want to see what WTTA feels like under this theory.

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qaqa
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Or HABIT's doing it because he wants out of the cycle, as lunaticfish theorized.

But. I'm open to anything. If anyone other than HABIT sent those to us, I should like to know if there is a way to try and talk back. Because HABIT's not talking about the cycle. I have tried and I think several others have as well.

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Or that, yeah. That fits pretty well when you look at WTTA as the past, as well as the future.

EDIT: if the thing that dragged Jeff off at the end was the Rake, then why'd they have to get into the light? We saw the Rake in Cops Checked, No Body, and that was middle of the day shit.

Eh, probably just doesn't attack 'til it's dark.

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qaqa
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The Kempest wrote:
EDIT: if the thing that dragged Jeff off at the end was the Rake, then why'd they have to get into the light? We saw the rake in Cops Checked, No Body, and that was middle of the day shit.


Circumstances in WTTA are likely very different than in our time.

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I still think that The Rake is HABIT's true form. I have no proof but my gut keeps going there.
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I always leaned more towards the unholy trinity of Father (SM), Son (Rake), and Unholy Spirit (HABIT) but can't wait for a EMH Director's Cut DVD with bonus commentary and t-shirt for first 100 pre-orders to clarify. <subliminal>DO IT JEFF</subliminal>
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I like; SM=Voyeur, Rake= Guardian and HABIT= Firebrand.
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mocchi
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For some reason, Slendy as the Voyeur just doesn't work for me. Not to mention, what would that make the gigantic eye on Vinnie's card in the Paradise Valley cache mean?

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The Kempest wrote:
If this theory about

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multiple iterations of Slenderfuckery, and ArkEMH trying to help our EMH boys


is correct, and I'm going to assume it is for the purposes of this post, let's consider a few things.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
It was suggested that HABIT could be the connection. If that's true, if he's responsible for the hidden videos, that means all sorts of weird shit.

I re-watched all the hidden videos under this assumption.

The first video is almost entirely footage of the guys discussing all the weird things that had happened up 'til then. Whether it's from the Arkverse or our 'verse doesn't really matter, it just means the circle of Slenderfuckery is almost exact in nature. Under the HABIT theory, we can assume this was more or less for our benefit anyway.

The second video is rather startling though. One line in particular jumps out at me: "It just sounds like we're just running around doing the same thing over and over again." This makes me think of what Mattwan said about each iteration being able to watch their successors. Not sure what to think about that though.

Partway through watching the third hidden video, I started to wonder if, in the Arkverse, they've already seen how "our" EMH's fate has played out, and these videos were ArkEMH sending back the completed "future" footage to try and warn or inform them. But, given the timing of the videos, it's possible they were either delayed, or instead sent to us, the viewers. Interesting thought: ArkEMH knows they can't directly contact current EMH, but they can contact us. Perhaps they're trying to nudge us in the right direction. The third video was the first time we'd heard of Dr. Corenthal. They're guiding us.

Returning again to the idea that HABIT is the one helping ArkEMH, maybe he's doing this 'cause he knows there's only so much we can do with it. He's playing us, as he's always played us.


Cutting off here. Want to see what WTTA feels like under this theory.



I'm really liking this theory, and it's starting to change my opinion on the canon-ness of WttA.

Maybe we should brainstorm more on how we could try and influence ArkEMH or HABIT. I'm not deeply involved in the ARGing, but others who might have some good ideas...? Either the sending of the videos or a message of some kind.... Sending anything to HABIT is easy as sending a regular email... but how could we contact the ArkEMH?

Unless we broke into the EMH Youtube account and posted something there. XD

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mocchi wrote:
For some reason, Slendy as the Voyeur just doesn't work for me. Not to mention, what would that make the gigantic eye on Vinnie's card in the Paradise Valley cache mean?


I'm still working on this. Here is my reasoning so far:

Slendy as Voyeur: This is pretty straightforward. Slendy seems to just watch and observe. He doesn't really act except for to scare the cast.

HABIT as Firebrand: HABIT's actions do fit this somewhat. He is overt and seems to war with everyone else.

Rake as Guardian: It seems the Rake acts when someone is getting close to something. It kills the mysterious girl, possibly killed Ryan and Rose and attacked Alex.

Now, the descriptions are where this breaks down. And I am still looking for any connection which, I will admit, has not been found.

Let's just say, I am working on a tree that looks like it was pruned by a hummingbird on speed right now.
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