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Communal Slendervlog?
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-Etrocal
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Communal Slendervlog?
Is a possibility?

This being my first post, I do find the need to point out that I've lurked for a while and all that jazz.

I've been a relatively long-term Slendy fan, but only as of recently have I really started getting the aspirations to make my own series. But after thinking about it, there's almost nothing that I alone could do that would make a vlog stand out. It might have more or less of certain elements, but it'd be hard to compare to any of the Big 3. That lead me to the notion that a community written Slender Series is actually a possibility. If all of the people intending to do vlogs but don't have the budget, or starting to write a blog, or anything like that were to all contribute ideas to create one fully flushed out Slender Series, I think it could end up amazing.

Similarly, one complaint that I've seen again and again around the forum is that Slendy should be more active, but due to budgetary restraints couldn't really be on film without Hollywood SFX. To the best of my knowledge, that's just a false statement. There's an army of hobbyists graphics artists around the web (including myself,) that all have talents in different fields. If these people were to also collaborate along with the communal plot, anything is possible.

Naturally I have a handful of ideas that I'd love to see in a Slender Vlog, but still nothing flushed out and with all video series', there can always be more. Although I'm currently lacking the time (probably) to make a Slender series up to par, if anyone thinks that this is possible, I'd love to hear your opinions about trying something like this.

(Also, to show I'm not making stuff up, here's a quick Slendacles test that I threw together this evening. I realize that it's not great, but I go into detail in the description. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m766jNN6BrY )

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I have thought about it and I think it could be done with careful planning on the part of the participants. I wouldn't because I'm not going to appear onscreen in a vlog, but I certainly think it could be done.

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Lookbehindyou
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Definitely possible, just need the right team. Almost anyone could write and do post production, it's the filming/directing/producing/casting part that's hard simply because everyone is scattered all over. The cast needs to be absolutely perfect if this is to be done right too or else don't bother.

I would be down to help with the writing aspect and post-production. I'm okay with video, but better with sound and coming up with music that fits a segment.

The team shouldn't be too big, but shouldn't be too small either. The fewer people involved, the less chance of something leaking out. On the other hand, too few people could lead to the entire thing falling apart. Once finalized, no others should be added to the team and nobody should back out. In other words, don't volunteer unless you are absolutely certain that you are fully committed to the project. Anyway, count me in if this is something that anyone actually wants to tackle. I've already written some ideas down in the past, and would love to get serious about it. Send me a PM.

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I would also be down with helping on writing. Let me know.

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In case that German should be featured, I could always help with translation and pronounciation, as well as research for German mythology and stuff.
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If this is a qualification, I have been GMing for over seven years in ways players really enjoy. I had a waiting list for my most recent game, but yes, I'd help in any way.

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Lewa
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I've actually proposed this before in Angora chat, not entirely seriously. I think the big issue is what Lookbehindyou mentioned about commitment. Most every internet project I've been involved in breaks down because people just disappear and leave their parts undone. I learned that lesson almost a decade ago on some Bionicle forum, and relearned it multiple times since then.
If you intend to do something like this, you need to work out some sort of solution to that. Everybody needs to be able to contact everybody else in as many ways as possible (not just email, but social networking accounts, phone numbers and maybe even home address.) And you need to be psychic too, predicting whether somebody's initial enthusiasm will still be there months later.
Alright, I've been negative enough here for now. It's an intriguing idea. If somebody could make it work, it could be better than any of the existing Slendervlogs, which all have weaknesses due to the talents of those involved.

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You're asking for a bunch of people on a very small forum, who live all over the world, to create a slenderseries. You expect to find enough people who work in SFX, sound, etc on this forum who are willing to donate a lot of time for this project, when they have very little incentive to do so?

For internet projects like this to work, you need three or four highly motivated people willing to do a LOT of work, and hundreds of people to do very little.

There would also be a lot of creative problems. When you have everyone trying to contribute to a major creative projects, you get something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Million_Penguins Everyone trying to contribute to a story will lead to a massively unfocused and chaotic work, that no one will enjoy. You need one strong creative force. Maybe two if they work well together. Any more than that, and creative differences will destroy the work.
Which won't end up being interesting to anyone, and will be overly gimmicky.

Thinking too much about this is a waste of time. I've seen a lot of people try to start collaborative stuff on the internet...write a story, create a band, etc. It only ever works when there's one clear creative vision, and where everyone else knows exactly what they have to do, and have incentive to do it. It will fail, and you will feel discouraged.

If you don't feel like you're able to create a proper vlog series, there's many other things you can do using different mediums. Write a novel or screenplay. Or, better yet, make a legit movie. A feature length amateur film would be fantastic and would breathe new life into the slenderman mythos, without involving quite the amount of effort the Big Three put into it. And you can still ask for help from people here. Something like the IG Marble Hornets (the pretentious student film). Focus on an hour and a half of great writing and great scares, and judging from your effects you'd be able to create something great (although not quite Hollywood blockbuster quality). I'd be willing to help out with that. But a fully collaborate vlog is just...too out there.

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I'm good for acting or writing, but I suck with SFX

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Sorry if my first post was a too vague, but my original idea is that people online would help create ideas and write out scenes, without ever actually contributing video. Unless it's completely needed to drive the story, (which is seemingly unlikely,) only one person would actually be doing the filming. The ideas online would help shape the story and make it watchable. The only people who could really contribute video would be graphics designers, but they wouldn't need a real commitment.

I'd like to not force people into huge time commitments by just working out the story over the course of a few days with the help of UF, and then whoever is best suited to actually film it could.

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sje46 wrote:
You're asking for a bunch of people on a very small forum, who live all over the world, to create a slenderseries. You expect to find enough people who work in SFX, sound, etc on this forum who are willing to donate a lot of time for this project, when they have very little incentive to do so?

For internet projects like this to work, you need three or four highly motivated people willing to do a LOT of work, and hundreds of people to do very little.

There would also be a lot of creative problems. When you have everyone trying to contribute to a major creative projects, you get something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Million_Penguins Everyone trying to contribute to a story will lead to a massively unfocused and chaotic work, that no one will enjoy. You need one strong creative force. Maybe two if they work well together. Any more than that, and creative differences will destroy the work.
Which won't end up being interesting to anyone, and will be overly gimmicky.

Thinking too much about this is a waste of time. I've seen a lot of people try to start collaborative stuff on the internet...write a story, create a band, etc. It only ever works when there's one clear creative vision, and where everyone else knows exactly what they have to do, and have incentive to do it. It will fail, and you will feel discouraged.

If you don't feel like you're able to create a proper vlog series, there's many other things you can do using different mediums. Write a novel or screenplay. Or, better yet, make a legit movie. A feature length amateur film would be fantastic and would breathe new life into the slenderman mythos, without involving quite the amount of effort the Big Three put into it. And you can still ask for help from people here. Something like the IG Marble Hornets (the pretentious student film). Focus on an hour and a half of great writing and great scares, and judging from your effects you'd be able to create something great (although not quite Hollywood blockbuster quality). I'd be willing to help out with that. But a fully collaborate vlog is just...too out there.


This. I couldn't get out what I wanted to say this morning as I was extremely overtired. All I said was it COULD be done, not that it would be easy or that it should be done at all. After reading the posts and this one imparticular, I'd have to agree that it probably shouldn't happen. The only thing I disagree with is needing "hundreds" of people. It could be done with under 50 depending upon what was done. Some Hollywood studios don't have that many people (hundreds) at their disposal and that's including cast and crew. Not only that, when you have that many people, things are going to leak out and that would really defeat the whole purpose.

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If you do it, I'm in.

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In response to people believing that I want some sort of super high budget, hundreds of extras epic, that's not the case. Outside of maybe some graphics, the only communication that would require the community is the story, the characters, all of that. The lead(s) would probably have to be actually cast, and most of the real work would go in the hands of the person with the camera. My question is if a community could write a story and help shape it to become more than an average vlog.

Admittedly, secrecy would be difficult, but I'd say that most people here wouldn't go into the open an spoil a series. In terms of actors giving spoilers, I don't think the full plot would be revealed to them at any given time, instead of just giving them what they need to know when they need it.

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-Etrocal wrote:
In response to people believing that I want some sort of super high budget, hundreds of extras epic, that's not the case. Outside of maybe some graphics, the only communication that would require the community is the story, the characters, all of that. The lead(s) would probably have to be actually cast, and most of the real work would go in the hands of the person with the camera. My question is if a community could write a story and help shape it to become more than an average vlog.

Admittedly, secrecy would be difficult, but I'd say that most people here wouldn't go into the open an spoil a series. In terms of actors giving spoilers, I don't think the full plot would be revealed to them at any given time, instead of just giving them what they need to know when they need it.


That sounds good. <:
I would so help with the story. ;w; I love writing, man. Admittedly, I have never done any type of screenwriting or anything for an ARG, but I'm pretty good at adapting, imo. xD;;
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This sounds familar...

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