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[VIDEO] enttry #37
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On top of that, "fragments" implies that Jay has been broken, it could literally refer to his memories splitting off of him, and his memories being unable to be truly returned, just second-hand in the form of footage.

"Fragments" showed a torn-apart picture of Alex, so I think it hints to Alex being somehow broken, not Jay. If it was meant to hint at Jay being broken, tta would have used a photo of Jay =)

Jessica = Jay seems a little bit far-fetched to me. Mostly because Masky is there, and it seems like he planted the combination to the save. And if Jess was a part of Jay, why would her room be messed up? What are the noises in her room? Atm, it seems to be more logical to assume she is a .."normal" person. Except showing symptoms of Slendersickness. I'm in no position to totally shove your theory away, though. It would be very interesting.

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I've got one question, which I didn't see answered here. I'm sorry if it has been.
So, did the lights in the house go out when wee Alex blew out the candles? Or is that Slenderdistortion? Such a heavy distortion could imply that our tall friend really is there. Like, physically. I've seen that some people here are discussing if he is. ^^
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Snippet wrote:
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On top of that, "fragments" implies that Jay has been broken, it could literally refer to his memories splitting off of him, and his memories being unable to be truly returned, just second-hand in the form of footage.

"Fragments" showed a torn-apart picture of Alex, so I think it hints to Alex being somehow broken, not Jay. If it was meant to hint at Jay being broken, tta would have used a photo of Jay =)

Jessica = Jay seems a little bit far-fetched to me. Mostly because Masky is there, and it seems like he planted the combination to the save. And if Jess was a part of Jay, why would her room be messed up? What are the noises in her room? Atm, it seems to be more logical to assume she is a .."normal" person. Except showing symptoms of Slendersickness. I'm in no position to totally shove your theory away, though. It would be very interesting.

Back tot topic, though.
I've got one question, which I didn't see answered here. I'm sorry if it has been.
So, did the lights in the house go out when wee Alex blew out the candles? Or is that Slenderdistortion? Such a heavy distortion could imply that our tall friend really is there. Like, physically. I've seen that some people here are discussing if he is. ^^


It looked like all the lights were already off, and the only lights were the candles.

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 		Ah, okay, thanks for clearing that up =)
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On top of that, "fragments" implies that Jay has been broken, it could literally refer to his memories splitting off of him, and his memories being unable to be truly returned, just second-hand in the form of footage.

"Fragments" showed a torn-apart picture of Alex, so I think it hints to Alex being somehow broken, not Jay. If it was meant to hint at Jay being broken, tta would have used a photo of Jay =)


True, but every other time TTA has said "you" (i.e. "found you") it's been directed towards Jay. This makes sense since TTA is responding to Jay's videos, not to anything Alex did, even when TTA's videos involve Alex they usually seem more to bait Jay into doing something stupid or scare him than do anything to Alex. We're not even 100% sure that Alex even knows Jay is stupid enough to post this stuff on Youtube (though it's likely).

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Jessica = Jay seems a little bit far-fetched to me. Mostly because Masky is there, and it seems like he planted the combination to the save. And if Jess was a part of Jay, why would her room be messed up? What are the noises in her room? Atm, it seems to be more logical to assume she is a .."normal" person. Except showing symptoms of Slendersickness. I'm in no position to totally shove your theory away, though. It would be very interesting.


This much is true, I do have to say that it's kind of far-fetched, it would be much more likely if there was prior evidence of the Operator splitting people, but losing that it's probably more likely (if for no reason other than Occam's razor) that she's just another schmuck like Jay who got Slender-sick and memory wiped. Though I don't know why Masky would have planted the safe combination, why plant tapes, a combination, and then attack Jay? I know he's insane, but I refuse to accept that as an explanation, most of what he does seems at least somewhat calculated, and insanity should be a last resort explanation. So barring insanity, if he attacked him to spook him or move him along on his quest or whatever... I don't know, it starts getting too close to Death Note levels of "all according to plan!" To me.

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Back tot topic, though.
I've got one question, which I didn't see answered here. I'm sorry if it has been.
So, did the lights in the house go out when wee Alex blew out the candles? Or is that Slenderdistortion? Such a heavy distortion could imply that our tall friend really is there. Like, physically. I've seen that some people here are discussing if he is. ^^


Yeah, I'm 90% sure that the lights are out and the candles are the only light. I'll have to check again and look closely though, the room looked slightly too well lit for just birthday candles.

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 		It's a pretty big stretch on any account to conclude that a torn up photo of Alex means that Jay is broken.

Alchimiste wrote:
So are the headlights from sidetone really the candle from enttry?

That was my thought, as well.

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 		I'm not sure if this has been posted before, and I'm not looking through all of the older forum pages, but here's the second half of the video sped up. It makes that voice seem somewhat human. Also, the voice at the end saying, "Good job, Alex," seems more natural.
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Zarggg wrote:
It's a pretty big stretch on any account to conclude that a torn up photo of Alex means that Jay is broken.


given that it was posted 2 days after entry 34 (when jay 'returns' to the house from 36), and alex attacks tim (perhaps in self defense- but it seemed to be more than that, the situation was already under control as far as the footage shows), i'd speculate that in some way alex is "broken" because he's found a way to fight back or escape the operator's control, and tim attacks him/is forced to attack him because of this.

alternately you could see it as alex being 'out of the picture', both in terms of jay's memory at that time, and that he could be dead at this time

but then that's based on assumptions about TTA as well as tim's intentions. alex admitted in entry 24 (?) that he was suffering from memory loss, and then we have a gap in the narration to entry 36 (or before the start of season 2 i imagine), there is a lot that we dont know yet.

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666 Posts. Wow. Other than that, I got nothing to contribute. Sorry :/

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tothecarp wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been posted before, and I'm not looking through all of the older forum pages, but here's the second half of the video sped up. It makes that voice seem somewhat human. Also, the voice at the end saying, "Good job, Alex," seems more natural.


Wow, great find! I honestly don't remember that being posted (could be wrong) but yeah, that sounds MUCH more natural than the audio at normal speed.

So then was the video really slowed down to match it? That's the only issue I have with this. Alex's mom's mouth matches the words she's singing, and the video doesn't SEEM to be slowed down at all (the pacing of everything would be kind of unnaturally fast if sped up too much). What was the percentage you sped this up? I'll try to mimic it in Final Cut to see how the video looks.
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redherring wrote:
What was the percentage you sped this up? I'll try to mimic it in Final Cut to see how the video looks.


I originally just sped it up to the speed that sounded the best (I'm not good at sound stuff) so here's a new file that I am absolutely sure is sped up 25%.
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 		OK, I've just finished an archive binge, and I've noticed a few really odd points about the current situation (sorry if they've been brought up before, I didn't read the old messages):

1. Jay claimed multiple times on twitter that he could not post Entry 37 due to him forgetting the password somehow. However, if he had really merely forgotten all his old passwords (he mentioned that he couldn't use password recovery due to it being tied to an email to which he also forgot the password to), then how did he manage to log onto twitter?

2. Supposing enttry 37 was posted by TTA, why did TTA post it on the MB channel instead of his own? What could he possibly have to gain from it, other than prove he'd gained access to his account? And furthermore, why doesn't TTA rub it in Jay's face, and this time leave no textual riddles and cryptic messages as per usual? And if Jay posted it, why could he spell "memories" right, but couldn't spell "Entry"?

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TwentyThree wrote:

1. Jay claimed multiple times on twitter that he could not post Entry 37 due to him forgetting the password somehow. However, if he had really merely forgotten all his old passwords (he mentioned that he couldn't use password recovery due to it being tied to an email to which he also forgot the password to), then how did he manage to log onto twitter?


He could have already been logged in. He uses twitter more often than youtube.

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 		If I didn't know any better I'd say we've been connected to the Everyman hybrid universe. The Operator's head shaking action is awfully similar to that of the slenderman sighting in one of the earlier episodes of EMH. He appears behind a door that first slams shut and then opens again on it's own. It might be the 5th or 6th one?

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Mantisbot wrote:
If I didn't know any better I'd say we've been connected to the Everyman hybrid universe. The Operator's head shaking action is awfully similar to that of the slenderman sighting in one of the earlier episodes of EMH. He appears behind a door that first slams shut and then opens again on it's own. It might be the 5th or 6th one?

The Slender Man in that video seems way too superimposed for him to be physically there. I believe the video tape itself was distorted after the fact. I doubt he actually traveled back in time, or was actually there. Also, this was most likely the video that Jay was referencing before his headache attack. I can see why this would spook him.

Also, Slendy looks like Sean Connery. Or Dr. Breen. Your pick.

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TwentyThree wrote:
OK, I've just finished an archive binge, and I've noticed a few really odd points about the current situation (sorry if they've been brought up before, I didn't read the old messages):

1. Jay claimed multiple times on twitter that he could not post Entry 37 due to him forgetting the password somehow. However, if he had really merely forgotten all his old passwords (he mentioned that he couldn't use password recovery due to it being tied to an email to which he also forgot the password to), then how did he manage to log onto twitter?

2. Supposing enttry 37 was posted by TTA, why did TTA post it on the MB channel instead of his own? What could he possibly have to gain from it, other than prove he'd gained access to his account? And furthermore, why doesn't TTA rub it in Jay's face, and this time leave no textual riddles and cryptic messages as per usual? And if Jay posted it, why could he spell "memories" right, but couldn't spell "Entry"?


1. Jay could have been already logged into twitter, or he can text it from his iphone.

2. Doesn't mean every word has to be misspelled.

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