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Melodyman
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 		As a kid I rmemeber hearing the sound of Sputnik as it passed overhead. It was nowhere as organized as the EXPCNV tones. Here it is for a comparo..

http://history.nasa.gov/sputnik/sputnik.wav

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:08 pm
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Xeno Lambrose
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 		Likewise, and no doubt this'll give away my general age group, but I recall in some early grade the teacher playing a song on a record called "Beep Beep," (and it wasn't the song about the "little nash rambler" and a female voice on the song sang something like:

"Beep beep, beep beep,
There goes a satellite.
Beep beep, beep beep,
and now it's out of sight.

Beep beep, beep beep,
That's how that science grows,
Beep beep, beep beep,
And blah blah blah blah blah."

Oh, the memories. We lived on a Naval Base in the middle of the mojave desert and if I recall correctly, there were times when my Dad would lead my brother and I outside in the middle of the night with binoculars in hand and patiently glance from time to time at his watch (with some glowing radioactive material on its face) to determine when to start looking skyward for the relatively fast moving orb and then hand the binocs to us and point out where to look. It was really quite amazing at that time to consider that man had been able to send something up into space that would regularly, like clockwork, pass overhead.

You had to be there, but it was really something at the time. Now, we've so greatly surpassed those days, but back then, it really was a "wow!"

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Jane Smith
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 		Dont want to keep adding to the madness..but i will.. this seems to be what Sarah is interested in .. read the page... Although the whole book could be linked Rolling Eyes

http://books.google.com/books?id=NMk3adgqfawC&pg=PA154&lpg=PA154&dq=THE+%22EXPLORER+III%22+IS+BELIEVED+DEAD&source=bl&ots=hT0DSjoIMX&sig=qOdHG7Ha2YJolkFm_gGtkfeP1Xw&hl=en&ei=_mWRTeqTC8ea0QGQrsi_Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ill try to get text version
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untricky
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 		EXPCNV..

EXP = explorer?

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kelwhite01
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 		I thought this was interesting:

[From wikipedia Operation Argus]
Quote:
The tests were proposed by Nicholas Christofilos of what was then the Livermore branch of the Lawrence Radiation Laboratory (now Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory) as a means to verify the Christofilos theory, which argued that high-altitude nuclear detonations would create a radiation belt in the extreme upper regions of the Earth's atmosphere. Such belts would be similar in effect to the Van Allen radiation belts. Such radiation belts were viewed as having possible tactical use in war. Prior to Argus, Hardtack Teak had shown disruption of radio communications from a nuclear blast. However, this was not due to the creation of radiation belts.
The Argus explosions created artificial electron belts resulting from the β-decay of fission fragments. These lasted for several weeks. Such radiation belts affect radio and radar transmissions, damage or destroy arming and fusing mechanisms of intercontinental ballistic missile warheads, and endanger crews of orbiting space vehicles.
Argus proved the validity of Christofilos theory: the establishment of an electron shell derived from neutron and β-decay of fission products and ionization of device materials in the upper atmosphere was demonstrated. It not only provided data on military considerations, but produced a "great mass" of geophysical data.
The tests were first reported by the New York Times on March 19, 1959, headlining it as the "greatest scientific experiment ever conducted." Approximately nine ships and 4,500 people participated in the operation. After the completion of testing, the task force departed for the United States via Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
While the tests were announced the following year, the full results and documentation of the tests were not declassified until April 30, 1982.


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kelwhite01
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untricky wrote:
EXPCNV..

EXP = explorer?


CNV = Central Nevada?

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r.m
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 		antimatter
Sarah mentioned an alternative energy source. Experiments with antimatter as an energy source are ongoing – especially to fuel rocket ships. Problems are that it is way too expensive to produce and nearly impossible to store because any time antimatter touches matter it all goes kaput and explodes into massive amounts of energy. So yes they want the energy – but they gotta be able to afford and control it.
So the Van Allen belts are a natural source of antimatter – it's there but how can it safely be captured, contained and put to use? NASA along with many other institutions have been working on this.
Here are some links to info on all of it.


This article is from Centauri Dreams the news forum of the Tau Zero Foundation and discusses NASA scientist James Bickford's antimatter work and Van Allen belts. http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=1567

Here's more info on the non-profit Tau Zero Foundation that funds study to further space travel: http://www.tauzero.aero/

Some info from NASA titled Reaching for the Stars (the goal of the Tagruato/Bold Futura Hatsui satellite launch – Smile had to throw that in there): http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/1999/prop12apr99_1/

Story about a scientist breaking ground in handling and storing antimatter: http://www.labnews.co.uk/news_archive.php/2277/5/novel-solution-to-antimatter-storage

On how antimatter spacecraft might work from Discovery's howstuffworks: http://science.howstuffworks.com/antimatter.htm

So maybe Sarah's file and Josh's dad's vitas relic are related to antimatter rocket fuel.

Now I need to go find an ice pack for my brain cells.

(One more thing - why is this page showing up so wiiiide?)

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Interplanetarian
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 		Interesting, things are starting to point to this "creature" as being some sort of living object, instead of a beast-type thing. Like maybe the cubes come together to form arms and legs and a torso, with a head Razz That would be awesome.

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OmegaLimit
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kelwhite01 wrote:
untricky wrote:
EXPCNV..

EXP = explorer?


CNV = Central Nevada?


I was thinking EXP=Explorer. I was also thinking CNV = Carson (City), NV, for no particular reason than it was the only Nevada city I could think of at the time that started with C. Dunno

Another possibility is that the "C" denotes the third Explorer satellite, C being the third letter.

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Kraten
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 		Sounds from the First Satellites
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/features/sounds/firstsat.html

here are the recordings of a Few of the first satellites

None really sound like Braegen14 expcnv.dat - great thought but I don't think so.

There is no "tune" to the satellites just mono-tonal beeps. Sad

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Xeno Lambrose
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 		expcnv

exp= explorer?

cnv= conversation?

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Nostromo
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Xeno Lambrose wrote:
expcnv

exp= explorer?

cnv= conversation?


don't think so! there's another file named "expcnl.dat"
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Melodyman
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 		Explorer 3 was equipped with a tape recorder to record anything it heard.. They never got the tapes as it burned up on re-entry..

It would seem that Josh's site HLM has become insignificant now.. He has given up the search for the Coelacanth and this seems to make his site useless. It seems that Revalistic might be the new place to gather new Josh/ Sarah/ M stuff from now on..IMHO as always..

And lets move this page along as the formattiung has taken a dump.. so...

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Melodyman
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multipsychoapopheniosis
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kelwhite01 wrote:
I thought this was interesting:

[From wikipedia Operation Argus]
Quote:
The tests were proposed by Nicholas Christofilos of what was then the Livermore branch of the Lawrence Radiation Laboratory (now Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory) as a means to verify the Christofilos theory, which argued that high-altitude nuclear detonations would create a radiation belt in the extreme upper regions of the Earth's atmosphere. Such belts would be similar in effect to the Van Allen radiation belts. Such radiation belts were viewed as having possible tactical use in war. Prior to Argus, Hardtack Teak had shown disruption of radio communications from a nuclear blast. However, this was not due to the creation of radiation belts.
The Argus explosions created artificial electron belts resulting from the β-decay of fission fragments. These lasted for several weeks. Such radiation belts affect radio and radar transmissions, damage or destroy arming and fusing mechanisms of intercontinental ballistic missile warheads, and endanger crews of orbiting space vehicles.
Argus proved the validity of Christofilos theory: the establishment of an electron shell derived from neutron and β-decay of fission products and ionization of device materials in the upper atmosphere was demonstrated. It not only provided data on military considerations, but produced a "great mass" of geophysical data.
The tests were first reported by the New York Times on March 19, 1959, headlining it as the "greatest scientific experiment ever conducted." Approximately nine ships and 4,500 people participated in the operation. After the completion of testing, the task force departed for the United States via Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
While the tests were announced the following year, the full results and documentation of the tests were not declassified until April 30, 1982.


Cool find!! Worshippy

Loving the link between 2 of Sarah's posts

edit - @Melody: I think the word is Doh! Laughing

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