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cemetrygates
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When has Slenderman stalked Jay, though? I think this does tell us something.

J has encountered Slenderman in the abandoned house and in Return, but I don't think we have ever been shown outright stalking. This wouldn't be just another Slenderman appearance, this would be an indicator of something big(but I've been thinking that about a lot of things and then we get footage of someone standing outside of a car).

I would also think it was cool if this was TTA. Also... that's definitely not a woman. Is anyone with me on this?

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Kilo
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cemetrygates wrote:
When has Slenderman stalked Jay, though? I think this does tell us something.

J has encountered Slenderman in the abandoned house and in Entry #####, but I don't think we have ever been shown outright stalking. This wouldn't be just another Slenderman appearance, this would be an indicator of something big(but I've been thinking that about a lot of things and then we get footage of someone standing outside of a car).

I would also think it was cool if this was TTA. Also... that's definitely not a woman. Is anyone with me on this?


What? Jay encountered the Operator in the boiler room that he got teleported to or whatever wizardry it was, and ##### was just shots of Mask being a creeper. Are you sure you're not thinking of Return?

And I'm with you on it being a person. Like I said earlier, the distortion is more in line with what Jessica threw off, and maybe Mask as well, than the Operator, but people are more intent to yell over blurry pictures and deal with absolutes.

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Mariolee wrote:
We'll just have to play the wait and see game to see if it's Alex or Mr. Thin, I suppose then. It's definitely not Jess that's for sure.

blue_dubs wrote:
I would much rather it not be Slenderman and be someone else like Jessica or Alex. I dunno why, it just makes it seem more suspenseful, and lead to more interesting discussions.


Really? I found it much more creepier thinking it was Slenderman looking into your window, making sure he knows EXACTLY where you are. He's just staring at you while you sleep. But wake up, and he's nowhere to be found.

EXCEPT RIGHT BEHIND YOU.


Slenderman isn't that creepy when we see him close up without distortion. Entry #14 comes to mind. I don't know, he's still unsettling, but he's scarier when he's off in the distance just watching.

I really think that if this is supposed to be Slenderman, we'd know for sure. They can't just say "It's too dark to tell who the figure is" only to reveal "IT WAS SLENDERMAN, WOOOOO". Nobody would be surprised.

I expect a TTA video with some footage from outside Jay's car.

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Mariolee wrote:
We'll just have to play the wait and see game to see if it's Alex or Mr. Thin, I suppose then. It's definitely not Jess that's for sure.

blue_dubs wrote:
I would much rather it not be Slenderman and be someone else like Jessica or Alex. I dunno why, it just makes it seem more suspenseful, and lead to more interesting discussions.


Really? I found it much more creepier thinking it was Slenderman looking into your window, making sure he knows EXACTLY where you are. He's just staring at you while you sleep. But wake up, and he's nowhere to be found.

EXCEPT RIGHT BEHIND YOU.


That would be creepy, and I like that feel of creepiness, but it doesn't tell us anything.

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Spritey wrote:
Mariolee wrote:
We'll just have to play the wait and see game to see if it's Alex or Mr. Thin, I suppose then. It's definitely not Jess that's for sure.

blue_dubs wrote:
I would much rather it not be Slenderman and be someone else like Jessica or Alex. I dunno why, it just makes it seem more suspenseful, and lead to more interesting discussions.


Really? I found it much more creepier thinking it was Slenderman looking into your window, making sure he knows EXACTLY where you are. He's just staring at you while you sleep. But wake up, and he's nowhere to be found.

EXCEPT RIGHT BEHIND YOU.


Slenderman isn't that creepy when we see him close up without distortion. Entry #14 comes to mind. I don't know, he's still unsettling, but he's scarier when he's off in the distance just watching.

I really think that if this is supposed to be Slenderman, we'd know for sure. They can't just say "It's too dark to tell who the figure is" only to reveal "IT WAS SLENDERMAN, WOOOOO". Nobody would be surprised.

I expect a TTA video with some footage from outside Jay's car.


See, at first that was what I was thinking. That it was too obvious to be Slenderman. But what if it's some sort of reverse psychology, and that by insinuating that it wasn't Slendy by implying that the person was Slendy, then maybe it actually IS Slendy!

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Mariolee wrote:
blue_dubs wrote:
I would much rather it not be Slenderman and be someone else like Jessica or Alex. I dunno why, it just makes it seem more suspenseful, and lead to more interesting discussions.


Really? I found it much more creepier thinking it was Slenderman looking into your window, making sure he knows EXACTLY where you are. He's just staring at you while you sleep. But wake up, and he's nowhere to be found.

EXCEPT RIGHT BEHIND YOU.


Eh, I don't really find the Operator that creepy anymore. I mean, the guy can eviscerate you without trying, drive you mad on a whim, and god knows what else. If he's stalking you... well, your life is absolutely no different from before except that perhaps you should take out life insurance sometime soon. It's not like you can DO much to prevent it, if he wants to kill you he will. He'll get whatever he wants from you, whatever it is. If it's another PERSON, well, people can be fought and foiled, much more reasonable to be paranoid when you can actually do something about it.

I mean, the Operator can be creepy, but when he gets all close like that it's more like "eh, not like you could have prevented that." When he looms off in the distance, or is hiding RIGHT THERE and somebody walks past him without noticing, that's when you get the real WTF effect.

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Whoa. Hold on guys.

First, picture of Jay near the car for measures on how tall you need to be:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110412at115.png/


Second, a more brightened video of said creeper.

http://www.twitvid.com/0ZN4D

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cemetrygates
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Kilo wrote:
What? Jay encountered the Operator in the boiler room that he got teleported to or whatever wizardry it was, and ##### was just shots of Mask being a creeper. Are you sure you're not thinking of Return?

And I'm with you on it being a person. Like I said earlier, the distortion is more in line with what Jessica threw off, and maybe Mask as well, than the Operator, but people are more intent to yell over blurry pictures and deal with absolutes.


You know what? I'm thinking of whatever one has Alex going somewhere and then I swear they run into the Operator. I haven't seen it in a while so I think I'm confusing that with when J sees Masky in the house. I'll have to rewatch those. And yeah, I meant Return not Entry #### Wow I'm way off here haha.

So what we do know is that Alex, if Alex is still alive, lives near the hotel(or did live). In the last entry they are presumably in Rosswood Park as he mentions here. In that entry Alex says something about "When I first moved here..." and Rosswood Park is the park that J visits in Entry 31.

Excuse me if this was obvious information/information we were already aware of. I wasn't sure where they were in the last entry and I can't be alone on that.


EDIT: No, I was right. I meant in Entry 23. J goes to the house, I thought he saw Slenderman at some point but I'm not watching the whole thing again to check. Slenderman does appear at the end by himself which means he was in J's proximity.

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Spritey wrote:
Mariolee wrote:
We'll just have to play the wait and see game to see if it's Alex or Mr. Thin, I suppose then. It's definitely not Jess that's for sure.

blue_dubs wrote:
I would much rather it not be Slenderman and be someone else like Jessica or Alex. I dunno why, it just makes it seem more suspenseful, and lead to more interesting discussions.


Really? I found it much more creepier thinking it was Slenderman looking into your window, making sure he knows EXACTLY where you are. He's just staring at you while you sleep. But wake up, and he's nowhere to be found.

EXCEPT RIGHT BEHIND YOU.


Slenderman isn't that creepy when we see him close up without distortion. Entry #14 comes to mind. I don't know, he's still unsettling, but he's scarier when he's off in the distance just watching.

I really think that if this is supposed to be Slenderman, we'd know for sure. They can't just say "It's too dark to tell who the figure is" only to reveal "IT WAS SLENDERMAN, WOOOOO". Nobody would be surprised.

I expect a TTA video with some footage from outside Jay's car.


This is what I think as well, its Troy probably establishing IG that TTA and Tim are separate entities. Since this is a week after ALEX SMASH, so I really doubt that Tim would be walking and tracking J.

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Mariolee
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AdrianHD wrote:
Whoa. Hold on guys.

First, picture of Jay near the car for measures on how tall you need to be:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110412at115.png/


Second, a more brightened video of said creeper.

http://www.twitvid.com/0ZN4D


I'm trying to compare their heights, and I would have to say that the guy is definitely taller than Jay. And I can't make out anything but a white face with no glasses or distinct haircut that Alex had a week before.

But maybe that's because I'm CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY.

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cemetrygates wrote:
Kilo wrote:
What? Jay encountered the Operator in the boiler room that he got teleported to or whatever wizardry it was, and ##### was just shots of Mask being a creeper. Are you sure you're not thinking of Return?

And I'm with you on it being a person. Like I said earlier, the distortion is more in line with what Jessica threw off, and maybe Mask as well, than the Operator, but people are more intent to yell over blurry pictures and deal with absolutes.


You know what? I'm thinking of whatever one has Alex going somewhere and then I swear they run into the Operator. I haven't seen it in a while so I think I'm confusing that with when J sees Masky in the house. I'll have to rewatch those. And yeah, I meant Return not Entry #### Wow I'm way off here haha.

So what we do know is that Alex, if Alex is still alive, lives near the hotel(or did live). In the last entry they are presumably in Rosswood Park as he mentions here. In that entry Alex says something about "When I first moved here..." and Rosswood Park is the park that J visits in Entry 31.

Excuse me if this was obvious information/information we were already aware of. I wasn't sure where they were in the last entry and I can't be alone on that.


EDIT: No, I was right. I meant in Entry 23. J goes to the house, I thought he saw Slenderman at some point but I'm not watching the whole thing again to check. Slenderman does appear at the end by himself which means he was in J's proximity.


Concerning entry 23, he gets... teleported to the boiler room, or whatever it is. Sorry if it seems like I'm splitting hairs, but he's in the abandoned house, does his whole time warp through the doors thing, and shows up in the same place that you see Alex and Seth in entry 22. It's not the house- he had started out in the house, but he got teleported somehow.

And actually, it's interesting that you brought that up. I guess that this general area is where Alex is originally from, but he moved to where ever they shot Marble Hornets. He mentions leaving to get away from something, which makes me suspect that the Operator is only an extension of whatever the underlying problem is.

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Mariolee wrote:
AdrianHD wrote:
Whoa. Hold on guys.

First, picture of Jay near the car for measures on how tall you need to be:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110412at115.png/


Second, a more brightened video of said creeper.

http://www.twitvid.com/0ZN4D


I'm trying to compare their heights, and I would have to say that the guy is definitely taller than Jay. And I can't make out anything but a white face with no glasses or distinct haircut that Alex had a week before.

But maybe that's because I'm CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY.


Eh, he's only maybe half a head taller. That said, in the general SM Mythos I believe that Slendy can change his height to relatively man-sized to as tall as a tree, MH has been working overtime on bringing him back to his SA roots the last couple entries, so we could take that as a possible explanation for why Slendy isn't towering (along with the even more meta-gamey "the shot would have been hard to produce if he was much taller" stuff). I'm not convinced, it's The Operator, but I'm not convinced it's NOT. On one hand, I feel he does a lot of stuff juuuuuuust too human-like to be the Operator, on the other hand, I can't deny that he certainly has the "watching, waiting" MO he has, as well as appearing to be bald and in a suit. There are also plenty of metagame arguments I could make either way:

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1. Jay explicitly mentioned he didn't know who it was, conservation of detail dictates this is probably important, and means we should pay attention because the solution is yet to come.

1rebuttal. Jay is kind of a blind spaz sometimes/Troy didn't intend it like that.

2. The fact that it's so similar to the Operator in appearance (not even the "not him" crows disagree that it could easily be CONSTRUED as such) probably means that they were attempting to make an Operator appearance, and failed at the special effects this time around.

2rebuttal. They could have thrown in a Red Herring to set up a plot twist. Or they simply ran out of filming time and couldn't find a way to make it look less Operator-y. The former is much more likely.


But I can really flail back and forth like this all night and it won't get us anywhere. I think there are good cases either way. Strictly Entry-wise, I think it's far too ambiguous to tell, metagame wise I think Operator-with-special-effects-failure may be more likely due to Jay's known ability to be a blind spaz, but not enough for me to be convinced either way.

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12 Pages. Regardless of the identity of our mysterious visitor, there is something no one seems to have mentioned, so I will. The head. The head does not cant downwards, as if someone is looking into the vehicle. It seems to be staring directly into the camera itself. Whoever this is, The Operator, Totheark, Tim or Alex, it seems as if they know of J's habit for recording himself and his surroundings.

Not to spark the debate over the identity of this figure (whom I will refer to as "Visitor" for ease of reference), but whoever it is, is what will answer the question we all want to know: what next?

The Operator. Our tall friend has previously interacted with his victim in order to leave a sign of his presence. Entry #11 show Alex getting out of bed, and the wall of pages behind him gets rearranged during his absence. His shadow is also seen passing them as they shift. Perhaps, if Visitor is The Operator, this is his way of telling J, "Tag. Your it."

Totheark. His (I use the pronoun only to ease the references) Identity is still obscured from our sight. What we do know is that he is known for possessing footage and audio he shouldn't. Logic dictates most of what he has should only be in the possession of Alex. Which can either say that Alex and Totheark are one in the same, or Alex's data and privacy isn't secure, and Totheark is using Alex's leaks to find them, and to get his resources. Regardless, if Visitor is Totheark, he could have arrived after overhearing the call, or as bobthecrusher theorized, he could have used his gained resources to fake the call. In truth, he could be using the resources to fake calls to both parties and move them wherever he wants.

Tim. Made lame by the assault from Alex. I will admit, the final turn seems lumbering, and the slowness of the approach could be someone relying on only one operating leg. This isn't to claim Tim is Visitor, but rather, if Tim IS Visitor, it explains the method of appearance. Further more, Jessica has been mentioned several times. A new theory could be, that Jessica didn't disappear, but that she is in league with Tim. Perhaps Tim as Visitor, is simply ensuring he has the right vehicle before moving back to the shadows to plot his revenge.

Alex. Perhaps the simplest of all theories. He told J to meet him there. Knowing what lurks in the darkness, and if Entry #38 truly does take place in Rosswood Park, a heavily wooded location. He could have been awaiting the morning light. In which case his role as Visitor is simply checking in, to make sure J is alright, and that he is still there. He may have moved somewhere nearby to keep watch. If Entry #38 does take place directly after this, it may explain Alex's shortness with J, having stayed up all night.

These are just my observations on the role of Visitor.

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Probably just adding fuel to the fire here, but y'know, in some of the tales spun in the Slendy mythos, our friend can change his height when necessary. Or whenever he pleases.

Also, it seems like it'd be awfully inconvenient for him to turtle-walk everywhere. He DOES try and imitate humans in some theories, so him walking at a faster pace than usual could be that.

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That and watching him creep up to the window would probably lose its tension after about 20 seconds.


That being said, if I had to put money on it, I'd say it's the Operator.

But then again, this is a nice setup for a TTA vid, at the same time.
If it's The Operator, we likely won't get many more hints as to who it is. ( Though imagine a TTA vid of him filming Slendy looking into the rear window of the car, filmed from a distance.)

If it's TTA, then we'll get footage of J sleeping. ( Or staring up wide-eyed. We don't know that he was definitely asleep at the time. )
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But no, seriously, guys. It's Jessica. You can tell by the sideburns.

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Olmstead, your analysis of the possible visitors and the implications of each was awesome. At least it was to me. That is the kind of thing that I feel generates more thought than simply focusing on whether it is or is not one person (still something I don't think we are meant to know for sure yet).

But about the park...isn't that the park Jay was asking about at the hotel? How likely is it that the events of entry #29 took place there? I think it was entry 29, the one with the huge drainage tube thing?

If that took place in the same park, I am wondering where it will fit in with the continuity being established here. And how exactly the following events unfold will likely bring that to terrifying, terrifying light.

I am so excited.

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