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[VIDEO] Entry #39
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evilsuperpowers
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Randoman96 wrote:


If there was a light-to-dark lighting change that caused it, you would have seen it when Jay turned the light off initially, and that would have worn off after 40 minutes.


I'm talking about the cut from daytime to night time. The dome light in a car isn't really all that great, especially on camera. The difference is with the natural day light and the unnatural dome light in the car at night.

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Voke
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Just had a quick word with Tim, and he claims that he isn't featured in anyway, shape or form in Entry #39. So I'm guessing this singles him out of the "Mysterious Being" argument.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Now that he's said this, I cant really think who else it would be, as we know TTA=TiMasky. So in all seriousness, it could just be a random person. Rolling Eyes


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Slender Hunter
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Alright, didn't have time to read the entire thread, so just gunna post this. The figure we saw COULD be slender man, or someone else.

Reasons for slenderman:
1. no visible face or facial features.
2. seems to be wearing a suit and tie.
3. lack of sound on the tape

reasons against slenderman:
1. none of the usual static and visual distortion.
2. He didn't do anything, just kind of looked at jay.
3. We very rarely see slender man move without jumps in the tape. (only other time i remember is entry 14 and the TTA video return, and even return had some jumps in it.)
4. movement seemed more natural and cautious, not to mention much more quickly than we usually see him move (not counting jumps of course)
5. At the very end, if you watch the shadow move on the window, he seems to be speeding up,like he's hurrying away.

This is all speculation and my person analysis though, so its all subject to testing and criticism. What I want to know is, if it is slenderman, why would he just stand there?

The movement is what bothers me most. It seems far too human to be slendy. We always see slenderman walk with more of a waddle, like a penguin (heh, its funny because they both look like they are wearing suits....). The figure in the video seems to be walking with a limp as well. This could be masky/Tim though. This would make a lot of sense to me. Too weak from the limp to get to J, but still keeping close to him. The clothes don't add up to be Tim though, they still look like a suit, though that could be a trick of the light.

It could also be Alex, but the movement doesn't add up right for Alex, and why would Alex call him to the park just to see him sleep?

Jessica doesn't make sense to me, she had long hair, and that would be easy to see, even with the blur and darkness. The figure is most definatly male or slenderman.

Another possibility is that this is someone we haven't seen before. Perhaps another of Slenderman's victims that wants to make sure J is safe to approach? We already know slederman is stalking others besides J and Alex (namely Jessica), so who's to say how many there are?

Anyway, that my two bits, feel free to nitpick and give me feedback.

Edit: Someone disproves Tim being the figure right before I post. Oh well, gunna leave it there anyway.

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poisonmolasses
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Lived in my car for two years. Fogs up like a mofo.

No distortion? Entry 11.

(Still confused as to why mr. "endless hotels" moneybags was sleeping in a car.)

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Itsnottim
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Voke wrote:
I cant really think who else it would be, as we know TTA=TiMasky.


Do we? Thats never been confirmed... Hes just appeared in tta vids. But so has alexs face, the operator (in return), and jay in multiple (coughing on the floor, return)....

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AKLY
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Like my last (ignored) reply to these distortion claims, <blah>


Whether the distortion is due to the camera not doing well in the dark or intentional distortion, the point is that it's not condensation or whatever because if it were condensation or something on the window, stuff wouldn't be blurry inside the car. K?

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TheAtroxious
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Now, I don't consider myself to be a gung-ho Slendy theory supporter, but I couldn't help but find flaws in this argument.

Slender Hunter wrote:
2. He didn't do anything, just kind of looked at jay.


And...he's never been seen doing anything to anybody for the entire series. He's always just in the vicinity, watching. I really don't think this point is a valid reason against Slendy at all.

Slender Hunter wrote:
5. At the very end, if you watch the shadow move on the window, he seems to be speeding up,like he's hurrying away.


Still iffy. Granted, I will admit that most of the time we've seen him, Slendy either moved very slowly, or he stood really still. However, we saw him flat-out running in Entry 4, which makes me believe that this isn't the best argument against Slendy either.

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Voke
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Itsnottim wrote:
Voke wrote:
I cant really think who else it would be, as we know TTA=TiMasky.


Do we? Thats never been confirmed... Hes just appeared in tta vids. But so has alexs face, the operator (in return), and jay in multiple (coughing on the floor, return)....


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I did have a chat with Tim a few months ago, and he did confirm that TTA=TiMasky, but it wasn't made a clear in the series as he'd like.


I'm pretty sure he let it slip by accident.

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Voke wrote:
Itsnottim wrote:
Voke wrote:
I cant really think who else it would be, as we know TTA=TiMasky.


Do we? Thats never been confirmed... Hes just appeared in tta vids. But so has alexs face, the operator (in return), and jay in multiple (coughing on the floor, return)....


I did have a chat with Tim a few months ago, and he did confirm that TTA=TiMasky, but it wasn't made a clear in the series as he'd like.

I'm pretty sure he let it slip by accident.


That's a shame. It makes TTA seem a lot less creepy, since Masky isn't threatening at all anymore.

In the words of Tim himself, "Masky needs to actually DO something bad to be seen as a threat. So far all he's done is run away and get his ass handed to him."

He should, like, murder somebody on film. Then I'd take him seriously.

Well, the figure can't be Tim since his leg was broken a week prior, which apparently means that it can't be TTA either. Since I still doubt it's Slenderman, it's probably either Alex or someone completely unexpected.

I still would've loved for it to be TTA.

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onetruepurple
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I refuse to regard The Operator's appearance in #4 as anything else but a goof that magically slipped through Troy. I mean, running away from the camera?? That is not consistent with anything else we've seen (not including #39, but it's just not him, fucks' sake).

Can someone who has listened to the DVD commentary confirm this?

Voke: seriously, please spoiler your Tim revelations, as cool as they are.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I actually was convinced that Tim=TTA, but the last few entries made me really doubt that, and to be honest, I enjoyed my former assurance plummeting.


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redherring
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AKLY wrote:
redherring wrote:
Like my last (ignored) reply to these distortion claims, <blah>


Whether the distortion is due to the camera not doing well in the dark or intentional distortion, the point is that it's not condensation or whatever because if it were condensation or something on the window, stuff wouldn't be blurry inside the car. K?


Thanks for casually disregarding the actual meat of my quote with '<blah>'...

Either way, I don't think I was arguing that it was condensation on the window. In fact, I definitely wasn't arguing that. I didn't even mention it in my response. I was specifically referring to the camera's tendency to have trouble autofocusing in really dark lighting situations. Which happens.

Randoman96 wrote:
evilsuperpowers wrote:

Watching it again I do see some noise, however for me it's there with the cut from proper lighting to the poor lighting at night. Also, watching that spot it does go out of focus. Not just when the figure is passing by though, it goes out of focus when the camera is jostled as Jay lays down and again moments later as it tries to focus on the car driving by outside. Although it is possible for that to be caused by distortion.


If there was a light-to-dark lighting change that caused it, you would have seen it when Jay turned the light off initially, and that would have worn off after 40 minutes.


I guess this is a response to my post as well?

Either way, from my experience with handicams like theirs (Sony specifically in this case) I would say this is a frequent issue that doesn't wear off. If autofocus is on and it cannot find a significantly lit object to focus on (especially if there are bright light sources like car headlights passing through the frame regularly) it won't find a focus point. It may not constantly try to focus in-and-out, but it can end up setting focus that isn't right.

The visual noise is pretty typical in dim/dark lighting as well. All of these things are pretty typical with these camcorders. Which is what I was attempting to point out, but I suppose that didn't come across. Or it was just too boring to read.

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Zaden
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Finally, Slender Man is actually in a video! (enttry #37 seemed more like an image of him than actually capturing him in a specific place.)

Huh? What's this? There's debate whether that was the Operator outside the car? Let's review:

Evidence of him being the Operator:
It looks like him and walks like him.

Evidence of him not being the Operator:
none

Hope that clears things up.

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I don't know, I'm not positive, but I think there's a pretty strong chance it's Jessica. We don't exactly know what her role was yet, but we do know that she was connected to J, and they had to have met at some point. The figure is fairly slim, enough to rule out Alex and TiMasky (among other reasons). Someone mentioned that her hair would've been visible, but I definitely think it's dark enough in color to get lost in such a badly lit blurry image. Plus, I do actually think there's a hint of long hair - I think it's possibly obscuring the light we would otherwise be seeing in the gap between the left arm and the side of the body when they hunch down to look in the car. The clothing doesn't necessarily look like a suit to me, either; I'm seeing more of a dark zip-up jacket/hoodie, the lighter part up top being their skin.

I'm not one hundred percent (the longer I stare at the video on pause the more I have no idea what the fuck I'm looking at), but if it's someone we would recognize I really think it's between Jessica and Slendy, and the figure isn't really physically behaving like the Operator as we've seen so far.

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TheAtroxious
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onetruepurple wrote:
I refuse to regard The Operator's appearance in #4 as anything else but a goof that magically slipped through Troy. I mean, running away from the camera?? That is not consistent with anything else we've seen (not including #39, but it's just not him, fucks' sake).

Can someone who has listened to the DVD commentary confirm this?


First off, just because you don't like the idea that this is Slendy doesn't mean you can completely write off what happened in the past because "It's just not him". The reasoning behind this is just flawed.

While I'm willing to acknowledge that Entry 4 may have been a fluke, and that this might not be Slendy, I have to go with the concrete evidence I do have, that's not contradicted by anything in the previous videos--which is that it looks like he's wearing a suit and tie, and that I see no evidence of hair. Hence I believe it is Slendy.

Secondly, the creators didn't mention anything about Slendy in the commentary. I think they're trying to keep a lot of the mystery behind the series, well, mysterious, at least until the ending.

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Thanks for casually disregarding the actual meat of my quote with '<blah>'...


I'm not disregarding, I cut stuff out since your post was long-ish and only a page back, and I wasn't responding to individual points. I do it all the time on other forums I go to, because I dislike the idea of having a large quotebox and only responding with a single sentence to address the whole thing.

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Either way, I don't think I was arguing that it was condensation on the window. In fact, I definitely wasn't arguing that. I didn't even mention it in my response. I was specifically referring to the camera's tendency to have trouble autofocusing in really dark lighting situations. Which happens.


I know, but I took your post as being pissed off at me for even mentioning distortion in the first place. Sorry. It's been a long week.

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