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r.m
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kelwhite01 wrote:
Well, I was playing around with the idea that the cubes become highly magnetic, perhaps solving the issues with having to have huge, expensive magnets for the accelerator. The cube's movement seems 'magneticy' and the cars and such seems to be affected in a magnetic sort of way.
Probably really reaching here, but with all these very scientific references, who knows?


Your idea about the cubes being highly magnetic makes sense. They could use a + + or - - repulsion of some sort to produce the great propulsion that allowed the one to bust through Joe's bedroom wall. Maybe they have magnetic properties that can be used along with particles from some element in the 'rocks' on the lab cart to accelerate the particles to produce nuclear energy.

Vitas relic could be the name for the cubes or for a particle accelerator. Maybe Josh's dad designed a particle accelerator that works with the cubes. Thinking back to the smeared drawing on the STIES letter - those little arms with squares could be compartments for the cubes. After being placed in the compartments the cubes shoot an electromagnetic wave into the accelerator to keep the particles moving round and round.

Some things that are interesting about Christofilos - as a child he built radios, as a teen he was an amateur ham radio operator, and his hobby was playing the piano loudly. Each of these could have a connection to frequencies.

Melodyman - I also noticed that our names were banished. Question Question Question

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Rocket Mountaineer wrote:
kelwhite01 wrote:
Well, I was playing around with the idea that the cubes become highly magnetic, perhaps solving the issues with having to have huge, expensive magnets for the accelerator. The cube's movement seems 'magneticy' and the cars and such seems to be affected in a magnetic sort of way.
Probably really reaching here, but with all these very scientific references, who knows?


Your idea about the cubes being highly magnetic makes sense. They could use a + + or - - repulsion of some sort to produce the great propulsion that allowed the one to bust through Joe's bedroom wall. Maybe they have magnetic properties that can be used along with particles from some element in the 'rocks' on the lab cart to accelerate the particles to produce nuclear energy.

Vitas relic could be the name for the cubes or for a particle accelerator. Maybe Josh's dad designed a particle accelerator that works with the cubes. Thinking back to the smeared drawing on the STIES letter - those little arms with squares could be compartments for the cubes. After being placed in the compartments the cubes shoot an electromagnetic wave into the accelerator to keep the particles moving round and round.

Some things that are interesting about Christofilos - as a child he built radios, as a teen he was an amateur ham radio operator, and his hobby was playing the piano loudly. Each of these could have a connection to frequencies.

Melodyman - I also noticed that our names were banished. Question Question Question


Radios huh???? hummmm Razz vlf /emf potato/mutant potato. Foily!

It looks like they posted tricky's and my comment, still dunno if it means anything. I have not emailed Sarah yet.. but maybe going down tricky's path about the evidence that EMFs may contribute to an increased risk of cancer to humans, how Christofilos was the grandaddy of those "HAARP" uhh cough.. type experiments...


I dunno.. did i not say I was going on a break..dammit this brain


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You'll be OK Jane - it's the ones who think they're perfectly sane that we have to worry about. And just to prove I'm not one of them, here's what's been on my mind lately - don't know if it means anything – maybe another coincidence, but since we're talking nuclear physics…

In the most recent relavistic.com post Christofilos is spelled wrong once as Christifilos - the error being a lowercase i instead of o.

On STIES in the FFSHCom letter in the last sentence I'll is spelled i'll – with the error being a lowercase i.

On HLM in the 112 (drunk Josh) post in the last sentence he writes "i need to sleep" – another lowercase i error.

And of course on the mailed RP certificates the lowercase i is missing in identfication.

In math i is the symbol for an imaginary number, which is equal to the square root of –1. And i is essential to the theory of relativity, the fourth dimension of time, and a whole lot of other physics related stuff. So is there something in the i's? (I'm probably just imagining things again.)

Maybe we need to be super calculus-weathered physicists to get this ARG. Or maybe the PM is just a sloppy typist.

At the rate we're moving here – I might be able to enroll in the MIT physics program and have my doctorate before RP takes off. Rolling Eyes

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From the lerky shadows

Laughing LOL Laughing lovin it

While I have been hiding (with the Foil wrapped securely about me)
I have also been pondering the question from the test

4) You can build a radio
a) with spare parts around the house
b) with proper training
c) amateurs shouldn't try

and the recent pdf which I believe says our new brainiac built one using option a) with spare parts around the house

Quote the PDF ". His precociousness and scientific curiosity were apparent from childhood; soon after the move to Athens he developed an interest in radios and learned to build radio sets and transmitters."

Backing back into the shadows now...... Still lost

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May be just more of what we have but I found another article

http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/aurora.htm

Artificial auroras

All the above is just a short and superficial overview of the science of the polar aurora--and I won't even try address the lore and literature. Let me conclude with two somewhat exotic aspects--artificial auroras and auroras on other planets.

Auroras, as was said, are caused by beams of electrons hitting the high atmosphere. So, if we mount an electron gun on the space shuttle or on some other spacecraft, and aim it down--can we create aurora?

In principle, yes, but in practice it's not easy to match Mother Nature. Remember, all auroras displays are at least 60 miles above our heads. It takes a lot of power to create a glow visible at that distance--especially, one as large as an auroral arc!. Experiments have been carried out--notably, the French-Soviet "Arkad" experiment above northern Russia (also some by the US), and spots of light were detected, but it took sensitive instruments to see them.

However, other more drastic ways also exist--such as exploding a nuclear bomb above the atmosphere, since a bomb produces great numbers of fast electrons. Such explosions were suggested by an unconventional Greek scientist named Nicholas Christofilos. He started out as an engineer designing elevator systems, but his real interest lay in magnetic fields and in the motion of ions and electrons in them. His interest led him to discover an important idea in the design of accelerators for nuclear research, known as "strong focusing." He wrote to Columbia University in the US, describing what he did, but scientists there did not pay enough attention to the ideas of an elevator engineer in Athens. They sent a polite reply and dropped the idea. A few years later, a Russian came up with a similar concept.

However, the US Air Force remembered Christofilos and invited him to this country. Because he was interested in the trapping of particles, Christofilos proposed creating an artificial radiation belt around Earth, by exploding a small nuclear bomb above the atmosphere.

No one suspected the existence of a permanent natural radiation belt, but some small nuclear bombs had been exploded by the US Air Force high in the atmosphere, near Hawaii. They created glows in the sky with the colors of the aurora, and people in Honolulu oohd and aahd over them--I have a dim memory that "Life" even ran a picture. So Christophilos prepared his bombs (to be flown on a rocket), while Russia prepared its Sputnik and Van Allen got ready for Explorers 1 and 3.

Sputnik was launched in October 1957, Explorer 1 was launched on the last day of January 1958, the newly discovered radiation belt was described that May, and the 3 bombs of "Project Argus" were exploded in August and September 1958, above an empty stretch of the South Atlantic. No observation broke the secrecy of the project, and no newspaper told about it at the time. But the bomb's electrons were guided by their magnetic field lines to their other end, near the Azores Islands, and produced a bright aurora which was seen by observers aboard ships deliberately stationed there. The "artificial radiation belts" from the bombs lasted about 2 weeks and were monitored by Explorer 4, built by Van Allen for that purpose.

Four years later the US Air Force decided to repeat the experiment on a grand scale west of Hawaii, using a hydrogen bomb, about 1000 times more powerful. This time the auroral electrons were guided towards Samoa--close to the equator, in a region where auroras had never been seen. But the explosion was too close to the equator, in a region where trapping was much more efficient. The radiation belt hung around for years, not weeks, and quickly destroyed 3 satellites (including a British scientific satellite NASA had just graciously launched), by degrading their solar panels and depriving them of power. The Soviet Union also exploded H-bombs in space, but the following year brought the international test ban and all such experiments ended.

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Re: From the lerky shadows

Kraten wrote:
Laughing LOL Laughing lovin it

While I have been hiding (with the Foil wrapped securely about me)
I have also been pondering the question from the test

4) You can build a radio
a) with spare parts around the house
b) with proper training
c) amateurs shouldn't try

and the recent pdf which I believe says our new brainiac built one using option a) with spare parts around the house

Quote the PDF ". His precociousness and scientific curiosity were apparent from childhood; soon after the move to Athens he developed an interest in radios and learned to build radio sets and transmitters."

Backing back into the shadows now...... Still lost


Good work! Something ties in...
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Emailed Sarah

Well I emailed Ms.engine1912

I made sure I sounded like a big foil head and sent her a youtube link about magnetic generators ..free energy etc..

I don't even know if it matters to you folks.. but I am pretty sure like "Rocket Mountaineer" I could build my own energy source out of this raggity old hat I wear. ill just crumple it into a ball and i'm sure it could fly from the immense knowledge of frequencies and magnetics I have fed it through osmosis.

Also I have studied enough about obscure and abtract ARG's that I am thinking of creating one myself. I assure you that you will be able to participate in the ARG I will make. But you must send me more aluminum to help build a hive for the little ones that my new "magnetic frequency engergy hat" will produce.

....In any case I do like bananas and my shoes is red...free cheese to everyone .....and all hail Zargranarb.

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Re: May be just more of what we have but I found another article

Kraten wrote:
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/aurora.htm

Kraten
I see your NASA article and raise you this LIFE magazine piece about Christofilos.
http://tiny.cc/skhl3

The story is from 1959 after ARGUS - but just as ASTRON is taking off. Here's a shot from the article as he explains ARGUS.


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Re: May be just more of what we have but I found another article

Rocket Mountaineer wrote:
Kraten wrote:
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/aurora.htm

Kraten
I see your NASA article and raise you this LIFE magazine piece about Christofilos.
http://tiny.cc/skhl3

The story is from 1959 after ARGUS - but just as ASTRON is taking off. Here's a shot from the article as he explains ARGUS.


That really is a good article. It lays it out in more layman's terms, although I feel I'm ready for my MBA in nuclear physics as a result of this ARG. Geek
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Re: May be just more of what we have but I found another article

Rocket Mountaineer wrote:
Kraten wrote:
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/aurora.htm

Kraten
I see your NASA article and raise you this LIFE magazine piece about Christofilos.
http://tiny.cc/skhl3

The story is from 1959 after ARGUS - but just as ASTRON is taking off. Here's a shot from the article as he explains ARGUS.


Kraten, Rocket,

All in -- with an Operation Argus Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUM3PDVnk7M

(Something familiar about the intro to this video, just can't put my finger on it Wink )
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What was sooo important, that he had to write it down right then.

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untricky wrote:
What was sooo important, that he had to write it down right then.


Wait till you get almost halfway through the video. Sailors on ships do odd things. lmao.
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From the video description:

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Operation Argus - 1958 - 44:40 - Color (Sanitized) - Operation Argus was a series of three high-altitude nuclear tests conducted by the Atomic Energy Commission in the South Atlantic Ocean in August and September 1958. The results of Operation Argus proved the validity of the Christofilos theory.

This theory proposed that a radiation belt is created in the upper regions of the Earths atmosphere by high-altitude detonations. The radiation belt affects radio and radar transmissions, damages or destroys the arming and fuzing mechanisms of Intercontinental Ballistic Missile warheads, and endangers crews of orbiting space vehicles that might enter the belt.

The tests, conducted in complete secrecy, were not announced until the following year. Low-yield devices were carried to an altitude of approximately 300 miles by rockets before being detonated.

More than 4,500 military personnel and civilian scientists participated in the test operation.


Did our alien get caught up in this and crash land?
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Just so everyone knows there is a new post up. Haven't got much time to read it but it's there. Yay conspiracy theories! Very Happy

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Ha, they posted a different YouTube link that is essentially the same video as the one kelwhite posted above. LOL
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