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[VIDEO] Entry #39
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Tyjet
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onetruepurple wrote:
We haven't seen The Operator in action since #29 - does everyone really think that it would be appropiate to make him return in a dark, grainy, ambiguous video?
he was in entry 37 too.

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Again, it's very likely we're supposed to think it is him. Whether it turns out to be him or not is payoff we will see in a future Entry.
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Unless Troy has gone into Hyper Red Herring Mode, in which case I will be a very sad panda. I would also have been happy with it being revealed to be TTA dressed up like The Operator to freak out Jay, but since we've seen more evidence (valid or not) that TTA=TiMasky, I find this unlikely.


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I want to believe that this is Jessica. She clearly screwed with Jay's camera in the earlier S2 entries, so why wouldn't she be able to cause the blur?
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onetruepurple
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Zarggg wrote:
Again, it's very likely we're supposed to think it is him.

Then again, we were also supposed to think that the black something with a plant in a white pot at the end of the corridor in #27 is him, and that the shadow casted by Jay's backpack in #28 is also him.

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BranRainey wrote:
Ikekudeyg wrote:
Do not mouse over if you don't want a bit of the magic ruined!!!

Wow, way to prove that one can make something blurry in post-production. You really blew my mind with that discovery. Rolling Eyes


Wow, way to show that you are don't realize that some people still believe marble hornets is real, I know this for a fact still haven't told a friend of mine its fake too funny. And some people may realize its edited but not care to know much more about it.
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Like how its Sony Gaussian Blur at 0.016 vertical and horizontal range to get the same effect as in the video.
Then there are people that don't know what effect but may be curious...in which case they now have what they need. You really blew my mind with this discovery. Rolling Eyes

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floodgateopen wrote:
Wingboy wrote:

IF this is Slenderman then why does he need to look into Jay's car? from what we have seen Slenderman generally knows where people are without having to bend down and look, my main reference here is from Entry 1, when Alex looks out the window Slenderman just snaps his head around and looks at him as he knew he was there.


My thoughts exactly... Slendy stalks people, he doesn't just pop up and hope they're there. Not to mention J was asleep, so Slendy's investigation got no conclusions but "Oh, still asleep? After those forty minutes? Cool, cool." (That's kind of a restatement. I guess I'm just saying I agree. Smile )


Normally I only post information based on facts and in-universe details because I don't like to stack hypotheticals, but what I'm about to say has the presupposition that the Operator has visual perception with his viewpoint taking in the visuals that radiate from a point located on the front of his head, similar in ability to a human. (Un-jargoned: He sees like he has eyes like a person even though he may not have actual eyes.) This theory is based on the fact that he turned his head toward Alex's window in Entry #1. Although even things like this are not proven yet, we simply assume that the Operator's head motion was him looking at Alex/his window.

So let's assume he sees from his head. Wingboy asks why he needed to look in the car window, because in Entry #1, it seemed like he just knew Alex was there. However, if the Operator had peripheral vision like a human does, he could have actually seen Alex 'out of the corner of his eye' from the direction he was already facing, then turned his head to focus on what he saw, as humans do. So I think that whether he knew Alex was in that room beforehand or simply saw him is ambiguous. Based on the other Entries, I'll go as far as to say the Operator knew the house was Alex's or at least that he frequented it, but it is not clear that he knew right where he was.

Expanding the vision theory, I would assume the Operator cannot see through opaque objects like walls, car sidings, roofs, et cetera. Thus he would need to look through the transparent glass window in order to see Jay. Physically, he had to bend down to see through the window because he is tall.

That explanation may be based on theory, but I think it's logical.


Now on to floodgateopen's quote. You seem to be quite certain that the Operator has either constant knowledge of where a person is or a built-in Human Radar. I personally like the former theory, because the "he knows where you are always" concept is quite scary, and is thus employed in many horror settings. But at this point, it seems little more than a possibility among many others. What if the time in between his appearances is because he actually has to search for his target, like a hunter? In regard to the other-dimensional being theory, what if when he 'phases out' to his plane, he can't see what's going on in ours? It seems he can teleport or move very fast, but what if he still needs to find you? Maybe he doesn't have an all-seeing eye. Here's a theory I haven't seen mentioned yet.... What if he can become invisible? Maybe that's why Alex and Jay have to keep on the move, not staying in one place; the Operator, silent and unseen, is constantly roaming around looking for them. Then when he finds them, with intentions unknown, he lets himself be seen.

Though one be more popular or favorable than another, all of those seem equally possible.... to me, anyway...

Also, I thought of this while speculating, but wasn't sure where it would fit into my paragraphs: What if he did somehow know that there was a person in the car, but had to look in to identify him and know for sure that it was Jay?

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Ok, so now I'm going to post MY theory.

To the dude that was wandering outside Jay's car, there's only two options.

1) The Old Slendy (almost sure about it)
2) The not so old Tim

Ok, now you guys say:
'OH WHAT THE FUCK, HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE? HUH ?

First of all, look at the way the figure is walking.
It can only be two things, slendy-walking style
OR, broken leg style.

Also, you guys were saying 'no, thats not slendy, he's too tall, and he would have to bow to see J'

See/Pause the video at 2:32
You can see that the figure is bowing to see what is lying inside the car.
Also, you can notice that the figure has no fucking face.
OMG IT'S SLENDERMAN, RUN!

BTW,
Alex called, saying 'meet me at rosewood park, bla bla'
Now, remember entry 38, as Alex and Jay walks trough some woods.
I think entry 38 was filmed AT rosewood park, and this fucking videos are not in chronological order (oh rly?)
Also, i'm excited about what's going to happen at 4/18, big surprise incoming.

Edit:

Pretty sure now that it's Slendy

http://img811.imageshack.us/i/slendy.png/
Also, you can notice his arm size in other frames, like the ones that he is walking.

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I honestly am not seeing slenderman in this. Around 1:35 in the video, you see Jay walking over to sit in the car. His head (and shoulders) clear the roof of the car distinctly; it's reasonable to say he himself would have to bend over slightly to look inside. Besides that, there really isn't much to see that isn't rendered more or less as a silhouette by the blur besides the white spot (possible slendy dress shirt?) and, in motion, it very closely resembles a hand to me. The visitor's elbow sticking out also points to the spot being his hand.

If I can make a recommendation to other people looking at this; when something is distorted/blurred as much as this has been, it's much easier to see what you're looking at in motion than it is in stills.

But, really, the only thing you get a good look at is his height; and even that's difficult to tell. We only have a vague idea of how close he is to the car, and that could easily change if the figure is particularly large, i.e. slenderman.

imoanyway

EDIT: I also don't see anything in his gait that I'd consider particularly unnatural. It could be someone with a broken leg, it could be a slenderwalk, it could be a completely normal walk. It lacks definition.

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God damn it, this thread makes me rage.
"It's Slendy!"
"No it's not"
"Yes it is!"
"No way!"
"Hell yeah it is look at it!"
"I did, it isn't him!"
"Yes it is!"
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Also, I love these screenshots people are taking to prove it's slendy, marking it with white circles in paint, labeled "shoulder" "no face" or "suit/tie" when you actually can make out NOTHING THE FUCK AT ALL.

Basically, all we can be sure about is that something or someone walked past the car that night, looked in, and didn't reappear.

I for one believe it's not Slendy, my arguments:
1) Why? Just, why would he be there?
2) No, the figure outside isn't slendy-tall, just tall-ish. Jay isn't a tall dude from what I can tell, but even his head disappears out of the cameras sight when he's standing behind the car.
3) What most people are saying is Slendy's suit and tie, for me it's a hand held in front of the body, possible holding a camera (possible future TTA footage).

also, when the figure is moving, you can see the arm held at an angle, so it makes sense to assume you wouldn't be able to discern a tie in any case.

I have more, but am too mad (yes, I mad) to type it down now.
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det slanke mannen wrote:
God damn it, this thread makes me rage.
"It's Slendy!"
"No it's not"
"Yes it is!"
"No way!"
"Hell yeah it is look at it!"
"I did, it isn't him!"
"Yes it is!"
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Also, I love these screenshots people are taking to prove it's slendy, marking it with white circles in paint, labeled "shoulder" "no face" or "suit/tie" when you actually can make out NOTHING THE FUCK AT ALL.

Basically, all we can be sure about is that something or someone walked past the car that night, looked in, and didn't reappear.

I for one believe it's not Slendy, my arguments:
1) Why? Just, why would he be there?
2) No, the figure outside isn't slendy-tall, just tall-ish. Jay isn't a tall dude from what I can tell, but even his head disappears out of the cameras sight when he's standing behind the car.
3) What most people are saying is Slendy's suit and tie, for me it's a hand held in front of the body, possible holding a camera (possible future TTA footage).

also, when the figure is moving, you can see the arm held at an angle, so it makes sense to assume you wouldn't be able to discern a tie in any case.

I have more, but am too mad (yes, I mad) to type it down now.


Agreed; I for one belive that this argument has already ended: with the solid answer that its impossible to tell. Its ambigious, and perhaps on purpose.

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Judging by twitter there is going to be a TTA post soon, possibly with an explanation.

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Speaking of TTA, since TTA has used the same audio as found in some of the entries could this have been the point where TTA got the voicemail for sidetone?

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lostbrane wrote:
Speaking of TTA, since TTA has used the same audio as found in some of the entries could this have been the point where TTA got the voicemail for sidetone?

Or he just called his phone number, who the fuck knows where he is anyway.
Probably killed by Jay or something.

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det slanke mannen wrote:
God damn it, this thread makes me rage.
"It's Slendy!"
"No it's not"
"Yes it is!"
"No way!"
"Hell yeah it is look at it!"
"I did, it isn't him!"
"Yes it is!"
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Also, I love these screenshots people are taking to prove it's slendy, marking it with white circles in paint, labeled "shoulder" "no face" or "suit/tie" when you actually can make out NOTHING THE FUCK AT ALL.

Basically, all we can be sure about is that something or someone walked past the car that night, looked in, and didn't reappear.

I for one believe it's not Slendy, my arguments:
1) Why? Just, why would he be there?
2) No, the figure outside isn't slendy-tall, just tall-ish. Jay isn't a tall dude from what I can tell, but even his head disappears out of the cameras sight when he's standing behind the car.
3) What most people are saying is Slendy's suit and tie, for me it's a hand held in front of the body, possible holding a camera (possible future TTA footage).

also, when the figure is moving, you can see the arm held at an angle, so it makes sense to assume you wouldn't be able to discern a tie in any case.

I have more, but am too mad (yes, I mad) to type it down now.

U MA-
Nevermind... You actually have some valid points in there.
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You raise some good counter points Zaden, it is definitely an interesting concept that spans the whole series.

Although I agree to stop the discussion about "I see this, I see that" the point of the video is that this figure is meant to be unidentifiable, we should be looking at reasons as to WHY someone needs to be looking if Jay is in the car, whether that be Slenderman or someone else.

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