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[VIDEO] TTA Forecast
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Nex
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HunterEris wrote:


Just to list a few things without wanting to start up the debate in this thread too:

Alex has always been off in some way, or at least he has since he started to film Marble Hornets. Look at the way he acts towards Tim, Sarah and Seth in Entry 9, shouting and telling them off for small mistakes.


Nah, we saw some footage of Alex being pretty normal. Like when they were location scouting. It's just that most of the footage we've seen of him is during his encounters with The Operator.


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Exit could not have been filmed by Alex.


We don't know that for sure. The film cuts after jay leaves to get the tapes.

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Alex would have had to have been in the same area as J during season 1 for Addition and Return, which we know he wasn't.


We don't know where he was at all after he left. The only part of the timeline we know is from entry 26, andI still have problems with that entry because Alex took the time to edit the film like that, hunt down Jays location despite him having been off the radar for a long while, send him a text, and eventually deliver the package, when he could have just gone straight to him if he really wanted help.

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TTA and Masky more than likely work together (Warning, Return) now that we know this TTA can't be Tim, which brings to mind Entry 35 and how Tim and Alex would NOT be working together.


See, I'm thinking that maybe at first they were. As, in season 1 TTA referred to himself as "we" "us." But in season 2, it's been "Do you know me? I will always know you" "Here is something I have wanted to show you."

Between seasons, TTA switches from refering to himself as plural to a singular entity.

The theory I'm thinking of is Maybe Masky and TTA (Tim and Alex) were originally working together to find the ark, but something happened causing them to split. This would explain why Tim went after Alex.

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Alex is terrified of the Operator, so explain Return (and possibly Admission).


This sort of ties into the theory I posted above.

See, my biggest thing is, through all the videos we have of Alex, not once did Masky ever make an appearance (as Masky, obviously Tim was in them).

There's always been that differentiation between Alex and Jay: The former was only tormented by Slenderman, and the later has only been tormented by Tim.

The only times jay has ever run into Slendy, he was somewhere he shouldn't have been, and in return, Slendy completely ignored him, and went for whoever was behind the camera.

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 		Not much here just yet, but if you scroll slowly, it looks like some of the letters are leaves, or something with chlorophyll inside them. Don't know what it could possibly mean as of yet.

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 		Just found the source footage for the beginning of the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KFgZZHaRaE

Skip to 3:10 into the vid.


Also has anyone tried reversing the music?, sounds backwards to me.

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 		I've been combining theories from this thread and what I've seen is mostly a lot of mixed signal on who TTA could be.
ectobandit wrote:
Well I guess I was wrong and TTA isn't Jay's split personality

slice22358 wrote:
I think Alex being TTA would be rather anti-climactic, so I'm gonna have to go with Seth for now. You know, Alex did tell Seth to never stop filming, so maybe he never did...

NoMoreGaems wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The season one DVD shows that Seth's actor was Sarah's actor's boyfriend and showed up for a single entry as basically an extra. In entry 22, when the character Seth is behind the camera, the person actually holding it is Troy.

HunterEris wrote:
Alex has always been off in some way, or at least he has since he started to film Marble Hornets. Look at the way he acts towards Tim, Sarah and Seth in Entry 9, shouting and telling them off for small mistakes.

Exit could not have been filmed by Alex.

Alex would have had to have been in the same area as J during season 1 for Addition and Return, which we know he wasn't.

TTA and Masky more than likely work together (Warning, Return) now that we know this TTA can't be Tim, which brings to mind Entry 35 and how Tim and Alex would NOT be working together.

Alex is terrified of the Operator, so explain Return (and possibly Admission).


My bet is that TTA is Brian. I for one has always thought TTA was Masky and Masky = Tim. My reasons for thinking it is Brian is because of all of things I posted.

EDIT: Also to add to the "Its not Alex" theory, Alex wanted to escape Slenderman, And he did. In that period of time why would he upload videos and possibly draw attention to himself.

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 		I think text during the white screens may say C.D.W The Ends S te

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Feiticera wrote:
Just found the source footage for the beginning of the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KFgZZHaRaE

Skip to 3:10 into the vid.


Also has anyone tried reversing the music?, sounds backwards to me.


Amazing find.

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 		@NoMoreGaems: Ah, okay. That makes sense to me. Thanks.

@HunterEris:
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Are you sure that's Seth's actor in that picture? Was it written somewhere? I thought it might have been Troy scrunching his face up laughing. If you're right and it is, then I agree that makes Seth=TTA a little more likely.


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Feiticera wrote:
Just found the source footage for the beginning of the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KFgZZHaRaE

Skip to 3:10 into the vid.


Also has anyone tried reversing the music?, sounds backwards to me.


Nice find. Interesting choice of vid to take footage from.

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Nex wrote:
Nah, we saw some footage of Alex being pretty normal. Like when they were location scouting. It's just that most of the footage we've seen of him is during his encounters with The Operator.


Well, yeah, but those are before the Slendy business kicked off, so I just put them to the side.

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We don't know that for sure. The film cuts after jay leaves to get the tapes.


Assuming that Exit and its Entry are filmed on the same day, Alex would not have had time to have his Operator encounter.

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We don't know where he was at all after he left. The only part of the timeline we know is from entry 26, andI still have problems with that entry because Alex took the time to edit the film like that, hunt down Jays location despite him having been off the radar for a long while, send him a text, and eventually deliver the package, when he could have just gone straight to him if he really wanted help.


Judging by the Operator's return in Entry 26, Alex couldn't have been part of the filming of Return or he wouldn't have had that reaction to the camera and without KNOWING the Operator was going to be there.

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See, I'm thinking that maybe at first they were. As, in season 1 TTA referred to himself as "we" "us." But in season 2, it's been "Do you know me? I will always know you" "Here is something I have wanted to show you."

Between seasons, TTA switches from refering to himself as plural to a singular entity.

The theory I'm thinking of is Maybe Masky and TTA (Tim and Alex) were originally working together to find the ark, but something happened causing them to split. This would explain why Tim went after Alex.


It is possible that TTA and Tim no longer work together, but it doesn't feel right considering my other points that Alex could be TTA.

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This sort of ties into the theory I posted above.

See, my biggest thing is, through all the videos we have of Alex, not once did Masky ever make an appearance (as Masky, obviously Tim was in them).

There's always been that differentiation between Alex and Jay: The former was only tormented by Slenderman, and the later has only been tormented by Tim.

The only times jay has ever run into Slendy, he was somewhere he shouldn't have been, and in return, Slendy completely ignored him, and went for whoever was behind the camera.


Tim may not have been far enough gone to have become Masky during the Marble Hornets filming, but only later when J started snooping again. That or he was recruited by TTA and chose to wear the mask to hide himself. Or whatever the mask actually represents, just that he gained it after Alex's time, but before/during J's.

I think in Return no one was actually holding the camera while Slendy came around the corner. I don't really know what to say other than my original point.

YamaKami
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Compare the picture with Entry 9, about 2:10 in (2:23 for a face view). I really don't think it's Troy as it looks a lot more like Seth and my initial reaction was "Is that Seth?"

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 		The figure in entry 39 could still have been Tim. His walk definetely isn't normal. It's oddly paced and he keeps his left arm downward at all times. He was probably using a cane.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
The figure in entry 39 could still have been Tim. His walk definetely isn't normal. It's oddly paced and he keeps his left arm downward at all times. He was probably using a cane.


The walking is too fast, even with a cane. He wouldn't be able to put ANY weight on a broken leg within a week. Like I said, he was probably lying down, out on painkillers during this.

Plus that walking makes me think that he's sneaking, not that he's using a cane of anything.
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 		@H. Eris' picture
I thought Seth had darker skin and lighter hair.

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 		Nah, I think that's... hold on, need to spoiler up.

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I think that's their producer, Kirill Baru, since I'm pretty sure that's when they were recording the commentary. Hotel room and all.


Anyways, this is all meta knowledge and shouldn't be used to determine who it could be.

What can be used to determine who it could be is the fact that Seth didn't look like he was getting back up at all in Entry 22.

Also, while I don't think Alex was or is TTA, I should point out that Exit and 13 have identical visual filters on them, are filmed by very similar hands, and Alex could have been sneaking all through that forest, he could have easily found a way off the trail that would get him back and forth quicker than Jay.

Of course, whoever ToTheArk is, we know they had access to the marble hornets raw footage at some point.

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 		I could be wrong about the picture, but that is what I thought.

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Watching the MH DVD with the commentary on and in Entry 9 they say that Seth (that's his name) is the girl who played Sarah's girlfriend and wasn't a character before a few days before it was filmed. NoMoreGaems is right in that. I'm wondering if this will effect how often the character will be seen from here on, but I still think it's likely he's TTA.


I still stand by all of my in-game evidence, though. Plus, Seth most likely had access to the tapes throughout the filming and being experience with cameras means he has reason to own his own camera.

I did not know about the visual filters, but that could come down to the daily conditions, rather than deliberate editing.
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HunterEris wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
The figure in entry 39 could still have been Tim. His walk definetely isn't normal. It's oddly paced and he keeps his left arm downward at all times. He was probably using a cane.


The walking is too fast, even with a cane. He wouldn't be able to put ANY weight on a broken leg within a week. Like I said, he was probably lying down, out on painkillers during this.

Plus that walking makes me think that he's sneaking, not that he's using a cane of anything.


The walk is absolutely not too fast with a cane. It's very slow and robotic, the motions and speed indicative of a cane or some other kind of prop to assist in walking. I agree that a rational person would not be trying to use a broken leg or even be mobile at a time like that, but whatever happened to Tim has made him anything but rational. Think back to what happened when they unmasked him. He behaved in an almost feral like manner the entire time, never once trying to negotiate or reason his way out. It's not far-fetched to assume that at this point he doesn't really care whether or not he should stay off his leg.

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