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Simon1984z28
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Predator was super intelligent and a killer. Another thought is if there are two maybe on is the others food, who knows for sure.

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 12:52 am
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Tim in Ohio
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Interplanetarian wrote:
I think that everyone is considering the possibility of two creatures because of the fact that it seems too implausible for the alien to be super intelligent but also just a mindless killing machine that terrorizes the town. Just the way its put together, these cubes that are theoried upon to form into a ship are designed magnificently, and appear to be made by an actual intelligent and reasoning life-form. Also, in S8editingroom.com, clip 75 shows two barred cages, and the colonel states "Cage 3." Because of this, I have thought up two new theories if we are right about two creatures:

1. The government has its hands full with a varied number of creatures, ranging from the one they captured (the intelligent one with the cube ship) and the cave-dweller (the killer that i think is from this earth but is either ancient or mutated.

2. Has anyone considered the possibility that Minker Sr. is the one stealing the electrical equipment or something of the sort? It seems plausible considering that he lives after the crash and escapes.


Check this clip I posted earlier today

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWIGOmUw84M&feature=related


It shows the military shooting skyward, AND horizontal down a street. 2 completely different directions. This is where I'm basing the 2 creatures idea from, not going to say it as it's TRUTH at all, in fact they could be shooting at a craft as well, but they are shooting at 2 different targets in my eyes.

I don't believe the IMDB post about the good and evil aliens at all. Copied and pasted this from the post.This is what started the entire good and evil aliens bit...

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I have seen about 1/3 of the movie, but very unfinished. I have seen concepts and have talked to a man who works in the design department. In the beggining, the movie was supposed to be set in 2000s, but later they switched to seventies, before principal photography.


Sorry, don't believe it.

I understand what you're saying about the electrical stuff, but I have a difficult time believing Mr. Minker is the one stealing it. Based on the trailers so far, we see powerline poles without wires/lines on them, and the creature behind the lineman at one point, if Mr. Minker is doing it, I need him to come over and rewire my motorcycle Smile

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:31 am
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I'm having a rough time seeing the creature as anything but a magnetic amorphous mass of metal that attacks mankind by forming its absorbed chunks into tentacles. I really, really hope I'm wrong.

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:39 am
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Re: 2 aliens?
I hear the theory.

Simon1984z28 wrote:
Ok my question is if there are two enemy aliens fighting each other. How did they get here? On the same spaceship? I'm not saying this can't happen. Looking for feedback and maybe build off this theory. No matter what way this movie goes. It's gonna ROCK and I'm already super hyped. It is a thought if there are two aliens maybe on the same mission but one decided to go rogue.



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Maybe the "bad" alien is somekind of biomechanical defence system (or watchdog) for the "good" alien who explores different planets.

It's like the robot in "The Day the Earth Stood Still". You could also compare it to the movie "Outlander":

"The story begins when a spacecraft tears through the atmosphere and streaks across the sky, crashing into a Norwegian lake in 709 AD. From the wreckage emerges Kainan, a soldier from a faraway planet, and a deadly alien stowaway called a Moorwen."

Or the UFO was just transporting the bad guy to an intergalactic zoo... Very Happy


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I have to admit that Minker Sr. stealing the equipment felt odd even as I typed it Razz

Although, I DO like the idea of the tentacle alien being a defense mechanism for the telekinetic creature. However, these ideas are seeming a little less believable each time they're mentioned. Because I just remembered today while watching the tv spots that the water tower is the source of the blinking car lights and the vehicle floating up into the air. Like in the official super 8 trailer 2, you see the kids walking towards the water tower as objects float slowly towards it. It seems that maybe there may be one creature after all, just gathering parts for a ship, and its energy source is the h20 in the water tower. There could be a chance that there are two creatures, and the predator/prey theory feels legit, but I'm not too sure.

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Resettito
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Yeah all those theories seem a bit far-fetched, though I like the predator/prey thing, but I think it's a little too mundane, especially coming from JJ, if the script has been kept under wraps for so long, without any leaks, it must be something big and imaginative, but since it's a kind of homage to Spielberg, the ship thing would be pretty much a given.

I keep thinking of two creatures because I can't see one monster who: has tentacles, is huge, yet makes people disappear without being seen (I'm just guessing here), is evil, and at the same time: collects fuses, electric sources, can do telekinesis (btw, why would it levitate objects, like cars or all the objects in a street (like in the first trailer, near the water tower) , maybe that' s just what it does when passing by).

It seems a lot for just one creature and why would it used direct contact to eliminate the humans when it could use telekinesis?!!!

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:14 am
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Interplanetarian wrote:
I think that everyone is considering the possibility of two creatures because of the fact that it seems too implausible for the alien to be super intelligent but also just a mindless killing machine that terrorizes the town. Just the way its put together, these cubes that are theoried upon to form into a ship are designed magnificently, and appear to be made by an actual intelligent and reasoning life-form. Also, in S8editingroom.com, clip 75 shows two barred cages, and the colonel states "Cage 3." Because of this, I have thought up two new theories if we are right about two creatures:

1. The government has its hands full with a varied number of creatures, ranging from the one they captured (the intelligent one with the cube ship) and the cave-dweller (the killer that i think is from this earth but is either ancient or mutated.


Maybe the crystally cubes are the other alien. They could be some kind of silicon-based life form that was zapped from the sky during the ARGUS/VAN ALLEN BELTS/CHRISTOFILOS project. Maybe they're inanimate under general earthly conditions, but can be reanimated under certain electromagnetic circumstances. And I agree with the idea that they were kept at Area 51 at the same time as the other creature and were in transport on the train together at the time of the crash.
If the cubes are "parts" that form a ship that is designed by an intelligent and reasoning life-form, I wonder if we'll ever get to see this being.

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The UFO or Cubinator could also be the lifeform itself (the cubes have biological attributes)...sentient machine race anyone? The bad creature would just be the result of military experiments with a poor octopus (super weapon project "Super 8").

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After the train crash one of the kids says "they look/are like metal and there are millions of them"


Although this idea seems a bit silly and far-fetched. Very Happy

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I concur. A mutated governmental experiment fits in with the alternative energy source and cave dweller intel.

The cubes are described in the s8editingroom.com to have biological attributes, yes, but it says "correlation within these cubes" probably referring to a shape that they were previously.

My speculation shows that when the scientists "exposed the 'craft' (meaning ship) to a barrage of" (experiments is my guess), it caused the cubes to respond by scattering out of shape and as individual objects.

It's a possibility that the water tower is important because either the water itself can be used as energy for the cubes' restorational shape, OR, there is an alternative energy source in the water, as mentioned in the cave dwelling articles.

Edit: Now, this is an interesting thought, the cubes being a creature themselves is interesting, but it doesn't explain the cages in the editing room. I don't suppose they would have a way to hold the cubes together in a barred cage, and if they're smart, they would hold the cubes separately, in individual containers. So, something else was being contained besides the tentacle monster.

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Resettito
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Ok look at this in HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuhCK3taP30&feature=player_embedded

We see the monster a bit more when the clerk is being dragged out. I DEFINITELY see a leg that looks really human-like, but it's huge, the creature must be like 5, 6 meters high, and the roar seems bad ass as well. Pause at 6 seconds, you'll see the huge leg.

Oh and it feels like the roar is different when the other guy gets attacked.

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:38 am
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Jane Smith
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Where we at?
oh here we is

Multi creatures

Yes I think so, cage 3 would make this seem likely, why transport multi subjects under secrecy when you can move the bulk in one pass? I love intergalactic zoo idea..2 birds one stone.

Cubes

Look like they interlock don't they? like clockwork Wink So They bombard this "thing" cubes fly apart they get all excited...ehh maybe

We still running with magnetics and energy?..

Well a lot of the foiled community assumes electromagnectic brian powers would be the power source in which a "alien" would fly a ship> Further.. in essence the cubes react to a connection with telepathy being life based..that "subject" being the power source in itself, having limitless "power".

Tower:

I know I have said it before but reminds me of wardenclyffe, I only know this because Tesla and his many "crazy' ideas have always been one of my passions.. I even have a tshirt Laughing

In any case The tower of Power would be communication and well as power.

Belt trap:

Was it indeed a trap? or is it a silencer so no signals could get out?


Well kiddies I'm all thought out, ready for some info...feed...hat..

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I'm sorry I dont care enough to quote, but there arent a million of us on here, so to the guy who is fixated on the set video where the military is shooting on ground and straight up, this could be the big finish where either a ship is taking off of the ground and is above the soldiers, or... after a creature phones home and a ship comes to Ohio, and is attacking them. If you notice, there is a very big explosion on the ground the second before the military begins shooting into the sky.

I really don't think there are 2 different creatures, I think the octopus thing is enough to carry the movie and more would simply be too much. Keep in mind this is JJ and Spielberg, and we all expect the human and child aspect to be very big. I was a huge lost fan and while lost dealt with supernatural happenings, it was the characters and the human relationships that carried the story. I don't think he will get into an alien and a mutated science experiment in the same movie, but I would like to be proven wrong. Ideally, I think we'd all like to sit here watching and reading things, theorizing, and then on June 10 be all proven wrong and blown away.

Is it really still only May 15??? This is going to be a long month


EDIT: and another thing about the creature itself, the creature in the gas station, I am quite confident that is not a human leg, or a human like creature. My favorite way to watch that scene is to keep on replaying it at normal speed, it just looks like a huge mass of limbs, like tentacles rushing at the doorway, but something I feel that no one has been talking about is the fact that it seems a little transparent. In freeze frames of this scene it seems you can see lights behinhd the creature right thru the creature, and I know this could be because the creature is digitally created and added to the shot, so they have to blend it in to the background so you dont just see a bright beast sitting there, but I definitely think the creature can and will be able to camoflauge or go transparent.

The guy with long hair telling Joe "i've seen it, no one believes me" also supports that for me, as does the military using flamethrowers on a grassy field, like they chased the beast and it disappeared, so thats their next move. It is an open field, where a land octopus would not be able to simply climb a tree to avoid detection, as it seems to have done to kill the utility guy in the cherry picker.

In fact, that scene is likely the subject climbed up into that tree and latched onto the electrical wires to suck power and regenerate itself, and in doing so it knocked out the powerlines or the transformer, and so the repair man needs to go out to fix it, but gets more than he bargained for

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Watch closely at 6 seconds in the link that I've just put. It looks like a leg, not a tentacle, watch at the bottom left hand corner of the window just before it blows up.

It reminds me that a French guy saw the preview at Cannes, and said that the creature looked like it could stand on either two legs, or go on four. The theory of the camouflage seems legit, otherwise as you said it, why the guys would use flamethrowers in the fields?!

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Considering the "transparent" apperance of the thing in the TV spots:
it wouldn't be the first time that ILM shows incomplete footage in trailers. Maybe they removed details on purpose.

The finished scene could look totally different with added tentacles, debris and 50 eyes.

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Shooting flames in a field to kill the monster? Pfft, please...everyone knows, that's how they mowed the lawns in the 70's.

On a serious note, yes, it does make sense for the creature to have the ability to camouflage.

Ugh...all of this is giving me brain-freeze. Or maybe it's the rocket-poppeteers popsicles.

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