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Who is the Seeker of the Ark?

Alex
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Tim
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Tim
0%
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Brian
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Seth
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Jessica
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YamaKami
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Deimos wrote:
Also with Brian's mysterious absences, in the one where "Brian went to get snacks" that means he was there and left and in regards to one where they were in his house but didn't no where he was, I doubt they just let themselves in.


Yes, but it's suspicious that for all we kept hearing about Brian, he wasn't actually there. It stuck out to me. And nobody seemed really sure about where he was. For example in #17 Tim says, "I think he said he was just running down to the store for some snacks or something. He should be back any minute." That doesn't sound 100% certain.

My guess is they were forgetting about him, or forgetting about his disappearance - sort of a slender-induced selective amnesia. Which would make sense if Brian had become the Operator's target - the Operator wants to minimize people's awareness of his existence, so he makes Brian's friends forget. And I've always assumed that TTA was the Operator's victim. A person would have to be pretty messed up to try to communicate via videos like TTA's right? Well being a slender target definitely messes you up mentally. So Brian was targeted/taken, managed to escape and hide, and from his hiding place is attempting to direct Jay to take down the Operator. With help from his buddy Tim, who is able to go wherever Brian is, and take care of all the footwork since he has a built in resistance to the Operator's influence (provided by his epilepsy medication). And Alex is just a bad guy. I don't know what his game is, but I don't trust him.

Seriously though, I know how many leaps I've taken to come to these conclusions, and I may be reading way too much into Brian. What can I say though? It's my favorite pet theory. Smile I won't be shocked if it's wrong.

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 		TTA is the camera. It's sentient.

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YamaKami wrote:
Deimos wrote:
Also with Brian's mysterious absences, in the one where "Brian went to get snacks" that means he was there and left and in regards to one where they were in his house but didn't no where he was, I doubt they just let themselves in.


Yes, but it's suspicious that for all we kept hearing about Brian, he wasn't actually there. It stuck out to me. And nobody seemed really sure about where he was. For example in #17 Tim says, "I think he said he was just running down to the store for some snacks or something. He should be back any minute." That doesn't sound 100% certain.

My guess is they were forgetting about him, or forgetting about his disappearance - sort of a slender-induced selective amnesia. Which would make sense if Brian had become the Operator's target - the Operator wants to minimize people's awareness of his existence, so he makes Brian's friends forget. And I've always assumed that TTA was the Operator's victim. A person would have to be pretty messed up to try to communicate via videos like TTA's right? Well being a slender target definitely messes you up mentally. So Brian was targeted/taken, managed to escape and hide, and from his hiding place is attempting to direct Jay to take down the Operator. With help from his buddy Tim, who is able to go wherever Brian is, and take care of all the footwork since he has a built in resistance to the Operator's influence (provided by his epilepsy medication). And Alex is just a bad guy. I don't know what his game is, but I don't trust him.

Seriously though, I know how many leaps I've taken to come to these conclusions, and I may be reading way too much into Brian. What can I say though? It's my favorite pet theory. Smile I won't be shocked if it's wrong.


I like this theory XD Sums up everything nicely, I think.

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Best theory ever, right there.

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Yes, but it's suspicious that for all we kept hearing about Brian, he wasn't actually there. It stuck out to me. And nobody seemed really sure about where he was. For example in #17 Tim says, "I think he said he was just running down to the store for some snacks or something. He should be back any minute." That doesn't sound 100% certain.

My guess is they were forgetting about him, or forgetting about his disappearance - sort of a slender-induced selective amnesia. Which would make sense if Brian had become the Operator's target - the Operator wants to minimize people's awareness of his existence, so he makes Brian's friends forget. And I've always assumed that TTA was the Operator's victim. A person would have to be pretty messed up to try to communicate via videos like TTA's right? Well being a slender target definitely messes you up mentally. So Brian was targeted/taken, managed to escape and hide, and from his hiding place is attempting to direct Jay to take down the Operator. With help from his buddy Tim, who is able to go wherever Brian is, and take care of all the footwork since he has a built in resistance to the Operator's influence (provided by his epilepsy medication). And Alex is just a bad guy. I don't know what his game is, but I don't trust him.

Seriously though, I know how many leaps I've taken to come to these conclusions, and I may be reading way too much into Brian. What can I say though? It's my favorite pet theory. Smile I won't be shocked if it's wrong.



This. I really hope Brian comes back into the picture. I feel like he was too important of a character in the story early on to write him off as being just an extra. He would disappear and no one would know where he was. Doesn't that just seem a little odd? His mysterious disappearances happened right around the time totheark first started posting videos too.

I would love for Brian to be revealed as being totheark or at least explained what the hell happened to him. But I wouldn't be surprised if totheark was someone else like Tim or Alex either.

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 		Not that I hate the idea of Brian being TTA or anything, but I'd rather just find out what happened to him period, although I think he went back to his own life since he was just 0ne of the actors who got assigned to Alex's project and once it got cancelled, there you go.

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freyathedark wrote:
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whyyyyyyyyyy do people think the Operator is totheark?


Maybe they just get a giggle out of the mental image of Slendy slumped over a keyboard, slenderknees knocking his slenderears, trying to type with no fingers.

"DID... YOU... SWER - shit - SEE... MEE?"


Pfff. That image just made my day, thank you XD

Poor Operator. He just wants a friend, but everyone is either afraid of him, or they go insane after prolonged contact with him. Sad

This almost demands a six-panel comic about this on the Fanart thread. Just putting it out there to anyone with artistic talent (I don't has).

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Zarggg wrote:
freyathedark wrote:
sjhartsfield wrote:
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whyyyyyyyyyy do people think the Operator is totheark?


Maybe they just get a giggle out of the mental image of Slendy slumped over a keyboard, slenderknees knocking his slenderears, trying to type with no fingers.

"DID... YOU... SWER - shit - SEE... MEE?"


Pfff. That image just made my day, thank you XD

Poor Operator. He just wants a friend, but everyone is either afraid of him, or they go insane after prolonged contact with him. Sad

This almost demands a six-panel comic about this on the Fanart thread. Just putting it out there to anyone with artistic talent (I don't has).


I thought about it as soon as I posted the original image, actually. I'll see what I can do.

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Not that I hate the idea of Brian being TTA or anything, but I'd rather just find out what happened to him period, although I think he went back to his own life since he was just 0ne of the actors who got assigned to Alex's project and once it got cancelled, there you go.

You may now rage against me.



I'm not going to rage. I agree with you mostly Razz . I just hope that the characters like Brian, Sarah, and Seth aren't ALL just dead, gone, or forgotten. I hope someone has a reappearance at some point. If that can't be done, due to OOG reasons well I hope their disappearances are at least explained, like you said. I don't know why, but I really have my heart set on totheark being Brian thanks to them both being very mysterious.

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 		I think we're grasping at straws with Brian being TTA, really.

For all we know, he's the only one that the Operator has actually taken (Seth might have, but unconfirmed. Can't say for anyone else). People just automatically assumed that Brian was TTA because he might have been missing, but think about it. Does it make sense?

The clips of the MH filming are from 2006, Marble Hornets started in 2009. Brian started becoming TTA and disappearing and acting all creepy-like a full three years before Jay started posting videos?
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 		In my mind, there are two scenarios:

1. Alex is TTA, as I've argued before.
2. TTA is actually Jay being controlled by Tim. Believe.

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Mariolee wrote:
In my mind, there are two scenarios:

1. Alex is TTA, as I've argued before.
2. TTA is actually Jay being controlled by Tim. Believe.

But Jay can't tape himself inside his car while walking around the outside of the car, wasn't coherent enough in Return to film himself, and also couldn't film himself at his car in Exit.

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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
Not that I hate the idea of Brian being TTA or anything, but I'd rather just find out what happened to him period, although I think he went back to his own life since he was just 0ne of the actors who got assigned to Alex's project and once it got cancelled, there you go.

You may now rage against me.


No rage, but there is a flaw in that argument. Alex started living in Brian's house at some point, as did Tim (probably much later, after Alex had skipped town). That house was a hotbed of Operator activity. So there's no way Brian just went back to his own life. His life was right there, smack in the middle of it all. Something definitely happened to him. But yeah, even if he's not TTA I still want to find out what happened!

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I think we're grasping at straws with Brian being TTA, really.

For all we know, he's the only one that the Operator has actually taken (Seth might have, but unconfirmed. Can't say for anyone else). People just automatically assumed that Brian was TTA because he might have been missing, but think about it. Does it make sense?

The clips of the MH filming are from 2006, Marble Hornets started in 2009. Brian started becoming TTA and disappearing and acting all creepy-like a full three years before Jay started posting videos?


Gotta disagree with you here, Randoman! If anything, Seth being taken/killed by the Operator is the most certain. Of all the people Alex named as being "gone" (Seth, Brian, Tim, Jay, and Sarah), Seth is the only one we have taped proof as having a direct run-in with the Operator, right there in #22. Alex emerged from that basement - Seth did not. Brian is way more of a mystery, which is why it's so suspicious.

So does Brian being TTA make sense? Well, I've thought about it quite a lot, and I think it does. As far as I'm concerned, Seth is dead. That was quite a dramatic encounter. I see Brian's problems with the Operator as being more subtle. First he was targeted and stalked (again - house is a Slender hotbed, present on set in #12, sitting right in front of the Operator in #7), then he disappeared (sometime between the events of #7 and #17, by my estimation). The disappearance could be explained by Brian figuring out what was happening, and trying to get away from it. OR! He could have been drawn into Slender-dimension (the basement). Now I see this as really likely, given that the entrance is right there in his own damn house.

Tim managed to go back to his normal life and move on, because he was somewhat normal in #15, going to school and all. Where was Brian? Still gone. He could have been trapped in Slender-dimension for three whole years for all we know. Would that be enough to make a person crazy enough to have to communicate the way TTA does? Yeah, I think it would. Somehow, at some point, Brian escaped. Perhaps he exploited a weakness when the Operator was distracted by Jay going through the tapes and starting to investigate. And now he wants to take down the Operator, which is why he needs the ark.

So if Brian is TTA, why is he so hostile towards Alex (Fragments, Sidetone)? There are a lot of good reasons. Maybe he resents Alex for managing to get away. Maybe he feels Alex abandoned him and the others who were affected by this mess. Maybe he blames Alex for attracting the Operator to them all in the first place. Maybe he's upset that Alex broke his BFF's leg. Maybe he hated his ridiculous dialogue in Alex's crappy movie that ruined his life. Lots of possibilities!

tl;dr: Brian = TTA can totally make sense.

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 		I'm just going to leave myself a reference list of how I'd feel in case of several possible revelations: If TTA turns out to be...
-Tim, I'll disown the entire cast & crew of MH from my will for going with a completely obvious copout.
-Alex, I'll be glad because I really dig it (excuse my outdated slang) when a protagonist turns out to be the antagonist they're trying to flee from.
-Jay, my head will explode a la Scanners because Alex being his own enemy is one thing because with Alex, his enemy isn't moving across spaces while filming Alex outside-Alex's-body.
-Seth, I'll...accept it...because Seth's still a pretty obvious suspect but adding him to the suspect list involves a bit more eagle-eyes than it does for Tim.
-Sarah or Brian, I'll be a little peeved because their characters appear even less than Seth, making them extras even moreso than Seth regardless of who actually portrayed him in either of his appearances (or lack thereof).
-Jessica, that's a-ok by me. We all know she undeniably has spooky-white-skinned-brunette powers anyway (see also: the masky thread in which his ability to teleport is debated).
-A random stranger, I'll be extremely pissed at this deus ex machina, but once I calm down, I'll appreciate the unseen-villain aspect since I loved Joy Ride for the same reason.
-The Operator, ................no. Just no.
-The Rake, .....
.....
.......Aw hell yeah!
-Zalgo, we are all doomed.

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YamaKami wrote:

So if Brian is TTA, why is he so hostile towards Alex (Fragments, Sidetone)? There are a lot of good reasons. Maybe he resents Alex for managing to get away. Maybe he feels Alex abandoned him and the others who were affected by this mess. Maybe he blames Alex for attracting the Operator to them all in the first place. Maybe he's upset that Alex broke his BFF's leg. Maybe he hated his ridiculous dialogue in Alex's crappy movie that ruined his life. Lots of possibilities!

tl;dr: Brian = TTA can totally make sense.


Every single one of those points could be made with literally every single other cast member, except maybe the BFF part.

There are two reasons people have the idea that Brian is TTA.
One, we have only two lines of dialog that suggest he's missing, and they may not. They could be red herrings.
Two, we found Masky in "the house where Brian could be located", and that was before people knew for sure that Tim was Masky.

From there, it just got more popular and as I've said, people have started grasping for straws trying to figure out what's what, when there are only two scenes that suggest that he's gone at all. Once, he's out for snacks. Then, they just don't know where he is. I'm guessing those two events took place a considerable amount of time apart, and if they hadn't found Brian, don't you think they would have looked for him?

Hell all of Brian's disappearances could be explained by the inability to use the OOG actor.

Sorry for this rant that may or may not make sense that I wrote at 4:37 am.
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Sorry for this rant that may or may not make sense that I wrote at 4:37 am.


Oh no, that's all completely legit! Smile You're right, those reasons for being angry at Alex could be true for other characters as well. Couple points though: Part of my theory is that the Operator was causing selective amnesia in Brian's friends in order to minimize their awareness of his presence. They wouldn't have gone looking for Brian if they were forgetting the fact that he'd disappeared. And for this particular theory, I hadn't been taking OOG circumstances into consideration.

I'm basically just trying to point out that the theory is valid - that Brian as TTA does work. It's not merely grasping at straws, and it doesn't demand a big stretch of the imagination. I think I've laid out a pretty good case in this thread (which includes a bit more than two reasons Wink ), so I'll just stand by everything I've already said.

BUT. I'm in no way saying that Brian is the one true answer! I fully concede that at this point, TTA could still be just about anyone. Except the Operator. Or Alex. I reeeally have trouble accepting the Alex theory. I'd definitely buy Tim or even Jessica before Alex. And hell, even if it is Alex, I won't pitch a fit about it. I'm sure it will all make sense when we finally get the reveal. **eternally optimistic about this series**

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