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Defining "Masky"
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YamaKami
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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
There's also been hardly no mention of Brian or any other MH cast members except Alex in quite some time, yet people continue to consider them extremely important so I fail to see how Skully's importance is lessened simply because of the amount of episodes it was featured in.


It's not screen time that matters - it's evidence (or in this case an extreme lack thereof). There's no way you can compare theories about the skull mask to theories on characters such as Brian or Seth. There has been no reference to that image at all in the series - just one fleeting clip that's never acknowledged by any character. You can speculate all you like, but there's no evidence to support any theory about it. Contrast that with theories on Brian, Seth and Jessica, which are formulated using evidence provided by the series.

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YamaKami wrote:
It's not screen time that matters - it's evidence (or in this case an extreme lack thereof). There's no way you can compare theories about the skull mask to theories on characters such as Brian or Seth. There has been no reference to that image at all in the series - just one fleeting clip that's never acknowledged by any character. You can speculate all you like, but there's no evidence to support any theory about it. Contrast that with theories on Brian, Seth and Jessica, which are formulated using evidence provided by the series.


This. So very much of this!

Hey guys, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the image won't turn up again. But there's no proof it's a mask, and there's no proof it's a WHOLE other character, particularly one that's only been loosely referenced in the series.

People are focusing so much on Alex, Jay, and Tim because you're being told to since the film makers are focusing so much on them.

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Yuki wrote:
At first I thought that Skully was just another mask that Tim was wearing, but watching that tiny segment, it looks more like a painting or something that's being held up to the camera.

I think that the idea that "skully" is not a mask actually brings up more, and weirder, questions than if it is one. I mean, it's obviously painted in the tradition of the Masky mask and it's more or less the same shape, albeit distorted by some fish-eye. However, if it's (say) a burlap sack that's been painted with eyes and mouth... that suggests that someone's referencing the idea of the Masky mask without actually having one, and that, to me, is WAY more strange and nonsensical than it simply being the same kind of object as we've already seen. Then we've got a case of someone holding up a sack they've painted to a peephole, or a camera or what have you, as opposed to a masked creeper getting caught on film (which is practically MH run-of-the-mill at this point).

Honestly, I think that tiny clip is all we're ever going to see of Skully. I love this forum for the many and diverse theories people come up with, but personally, I think we'd get further in squeezing meaning out of the clip with Skully if we focus more on what it's presence implies than, say, who is wearing it or if they're running about stirring shit up now. There's no way we'll ever be able to suss such specific answers out, given the clip we have now, but there are all sorts of fun general theories that can be made about its presence in the context it's found in.

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Tao wrote:
People are focusing so much on Alex, Jay, and Tim because you're being told to since the film makers are focusing so much on them.


This. We as the audience are always going to be lead in certain directions by the filmmakers. If the creators wanted us to focus more on other characters, they would have offered more OF those characters.

It's all very well to imagine that they're deliberately misleading us, but red herrings only *really* become clear in hindsight. If you look for them too often, you get to where you can't really trust anything. Skepticism, as all things, should be used in moderation.

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JKatkina wrote:
Yuki wrote:
At first I thought that Skully was just another mask that Tim was wearing, but watching that tiny segment, it looks more like a painting or something that's being held up to the camera.

I think that the idea that "skully" is not a mask actually brings up more, and weirder, questions than if it is one. I mean, it's obviously painted in the tradition of the Masky mask and it's more or less the same shape, albeit distorted by some fish-eye. However, if it's (say) a burlap sack that's been painted with eyes and mouth... that suggests that someone's referencing the idea of the Masky mask without actually having one, and that, to me, is WAY more strange and nonsensical than it simply being the same kind of object as we've already seen. Then we've got a case of someone holding up a sack they've painted to a peephole, or a camera or what have you, as opposed to a masked creeper getting caught on film (which is practically MH run-of-the-mill at this point).

Honestly, I think that tiny clip is all we're ever going to see of Skully. I love this forum for the many and diverse theories people come up with, but personally, I think we'd get further in squeezing meaning out of the clip with Skully if we focus more on what it's presence implies than, say, who is wearing it or if they're running about stirring shit up now. There's no way we'll ever be able to suss such specific answers out, given the clip we have now, but there are all sorts of fun general theories that can be made about its presence in the context it's found in.

Very much this

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 		I always thought Skully was an inappropriately-placed marzipan skull.
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 		After further analysis skully is definitely either alive or being controlled by someone. If you watch carefully its slowly turning towards the camera. That being said, I think that skully is a prototype mask for Tim. However, what confuses me is that it seems to be assumed that Alex sent Jay the tape. If thats true than Tim, assuming he's TTA/Skully, would have had access to the tape while it was in Alex's house. Since Tim obviously wants Alex dead, why not do it when he planted/altered the tape?

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I personally think this was an oversight by Troy and the gang who just wanted to make the last video as creepy as possible


I just want to say that although I'm for Skully being an isolated incident, there is an arguement for it being in some way important. I hate ignorant extremists no matter what side they are on.

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 		^That. I'm a man of reason and will not be convinced of silly stuff like "it's not even a mask at all! surely 'tis a stuffed animal!"

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 		The skully mask always looked incredibly unreal and strange to me, almost as if it was photoshopped in afterwards. Because of that, i always assumed that it was simply some sort of special Operator Distortion/TTA Editing was used on an image of Alex's girlfriend to show that she's bringing the operator back into alex's life, and is either dead or is bringing herself and alex close to death.

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 		Y'know, if Alex is TTA, Skully could be *his* mask. Dunno, just an idea.

Looking at 26, it doesn't look like Alex-in-a-mask. Never mind.
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 		I've noticed a bit of short-shaved hair sticking out the top

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 		Jay has hair matching that description. Brian does, too. His hair was a bit too long for that in Entry 7, though. He's been missing a long time now. His hair's likely longer, unless he's on the run like Jay.
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 		A brief note because I don't see this posted anywhere yet: Jay's knife goes missing during his first run-in with Masky (he mentions it after waking up). Possibly the Chekhov origin of the knife Masky uses to stab Alex?

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greyknight wrote:
A brief note because I don't see this posted anywhere yet: Jay's knife goes missing during his first run-in with Masky (he mentions it after waking up). Possibly the Chekhov origin of the knife Masky uses to stab Alex?


Interesting point. Probably not significant, but interesting.

So that's all Tim was trying to do, return Jay's knife.....right into Alex's arm.
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 		Off topic somewhat, but the seizures and headaches may be related to a condition called cerebral edema,
a condition from the brain absorbing excessive amounts of water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_edema

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