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Daithi
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 		So I'm fairly sure I've got the next password:

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phoenix

This of course takes us to http://www.invisiblebelfast.com/phoenix.html
I got phoenix from the description of high street, there are a number of inn signs described on page 184 of the star factory and phoenix is the first. Also the timeisfleeting.html references reconstructing which sort of fits in with the idea of a phoenix. Plenty to see on this new page.



Some initial thoughts on the new page:

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Smithfield Market is the phoenix in question and it's to the new Smithfield Market that the co-ords point.

The main image is a quote from the star factory and the file is called ALoughNeaghSequence. This is a Seamus Heaney poem published by Phoenix Pamphlet Poets Press. The star factory quote seems to have some letters highlighted, it's quite hard to read but I think they are:

OdfbcefhOO



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draghkar
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 		The coordinates lead to
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smithfield square - at the location of the smithfield market


Maybe we can ask Ana to go there to see if there is anything to find for her..

other than that.. has anyone spotted the typo in the title of the page?

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Pheonix instead of Phoenix


Also an interesting message in the meta tags of the page:
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Raised from the ashes, Smithfield Market

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draghkar
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 		I just went back to pages we have already seen and the frontpage has changed.. It now has a nice image which is also a link to the waterclock..



Some more changes are (spoilers for those who want to see themselves):

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    A link to the wiki
    A twitter feed
    A link to ana's blog and youtube feed
    A new signup page (http://www.invisiblebelfast.com/signup.html)
    An interesting set of META tags (also interesting that the word labyrinth is misspelled to laberynth)
    The term "the inferno" is included in the META tags
    The name ciaran carson appears in the META tags





Also: the image above is located in a different location. this location also has another image in it:

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http://www.invisiblebelfast.com/timeisfleetingimages/the_symbols.png

Anyone an idea what they stand for in this context?

Also the star at the bottom has an interesting alt text:
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signed by the star

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draghkar
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 		just got a mail from invisible.. upon my request to have me manually added:

Quote:
We have tracked you on the networks from the beginning, you have proved to be a dedicated and skilful conspirator.


Supplying your name (first/last), email, twitter to this address and you will be manually inputted. We will be keeping a special eye on you and Naglfar.


Did some research on the phoenix page.. the carson 1997:223 points to:
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page 223 of the star factory

I asked Ana to post that page if there is something written on it.
the page itself is about
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smithfield, and a burned down matchfactory with the name Lucifer. After describing the remains, he refers to another book he was reading:"A history of reading" by Alberto Manguel

Neither of these terms lead to a new page..
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Naglfar
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 		This seems to support my far-fetched theory that we were intentionally set aside for some reason or another. Guess we'll wait for Ana to post that page...

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draghkar
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 		Interesting quote from Ana at Twitter:

ana wrote:
Just realized that if you swap the book code for corresponding alphabet letters, you get X and E ... plus OPIHN


the way she tells it, the word makes Phoenix..

A hint that could have come a bit earlier Wink

EDIT
an almost discriminatory reply from invisible belfast:
Invisible Belfast wrote:
@AnaDanikaK you have proved skilful but the conspirators together much outweigh your abilities, you are not a man and maybe not a sham.


Is there a clue there??
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Naglfar
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 		Hm... I think it's just @visiblebelfast being theatrical as usual.

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draghkar
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 		is it just me, or does the tickets link on the waterclock page lead to nothing but a change of the word ticket to the acronym QFT?

Another interesting thing:

On the contact tab from the ciliarisarts webpage, the name of the contact is jack sellars, however the email addy is jackcellarsSPLATgmail.com

sent a mail anyhow to ask if the play can be followed online..
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Daithi
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 		When i click tickets on the front page I get Cast Crew Tickets, click tickets again and it brings up a registration form that allows you to pick online or in person attendance.

And I read a blurb somewhere when googling the words invisible belfast that said Ana was helped by Meri and Jack so looks like Jack is a character too.

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draghkar
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 		interesting.. didnt work in IE8, used chrome, and after 3 reloads, I got the signin page..
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draghkar
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 		found another image in the images folder:


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draghkar
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 		found an interesting link to pictures of the old smithfield market:

http://smithfieldmarket.rushlightmagazine.com/

It seems that the place is indeed burned down..

the phoenix page says:
Quote:
Many have written about this space, that has now risen from the ashes.


and then the button asks for:
Quote:
Writing of love


I am sure we need to find a name of a book, or poem or something that will point us to the answer to that page... Maybe something can be found at the location, and Ana needs to go there.. but I am not sure..

Any of you have an idea on this?


EDIT
Probably OOG, found the following book online, read page 289:
http://www.archive.org/stream/romanticloveand00fincgoog#page/n324/mode/2up
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Daithi
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 		Yes the old market was burnt down in the 70s, blamed on paramilitaries but a lot of people thought it was actually property developers trying to get rid of the place. The phoenix bit refers to the fact that there is a new Smithfield Market (which can be seen on Google Street View at the coordinates given on the phoenix page), a more modern and much uglier buiding.

My thought was that we need the name of a poem about the market but I couldn't find any.

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draghkar
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 		Well, Ciaran Carson wrote several poems, also about love..

especially the bundle "for all we know" exhibits a softer side to Carson, consisting of love poems dedicated to his wife: though references to the May 1968 Paris riots, bombs in Belfast and the Stasi are allowed to intrude, the emphasis here is on life and experience shared.

we would need to know which poem is selected to be the answer to this riddle..

I am shooting at the poem about bombs in belfast, because of the relation, but am not sure, and dont know the name of it...
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Daithi
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 		Think I've got the poem in question.

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The Rag Trade by Michael Longley so that gives us the password theragtrade which brings us to http://www.invisiblebelfast.com/theragtrade.html

I got this from 'Many have written about this space, that has now risen from the ashes.' - so looked for poems about our phoenix (smithfield market) and the also 'writing of love' - The Rag Trade is a love poem with Smithfield Market as it's backdrop. This new page gives words from the poem, a jagged missing section and another countdown.



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