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[Spec] Something that's been bugging me...
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Jettison42
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[Spec] Something that's been bugging me...

Trout this if it's been gone over, sorry, but my mind is buzzing and I need to get this down.

I was re-reading over the Contact Me page, just cause, and I got to the bottom.

Quote:
Seeker, we need to reveal Subject 5. We need to transmit subject 5 files to Durga. What must we do?

friends > !reveal Subject 5 >> master-sector
seeker > !transmit Durga

How will you know they are the right ones?

seeker > !analyze friends transmit proc
friends transmit proc >> Creepy


The little thing between SP and PF. That last line, the one about Creepy. I went back, and reread through the sound clips, and sure enough there was one entitled Creepy. THe one where Jeresy asks Durga if anyone was spying on them, Durga saying No, she would know.

But she /is/ being spied on, otherwise we wouldn't have the clip, right? So, if we found some way to get that file to Durga, tipping her off... what would happen?

It's obvious that it's what the Flea wants us to do, to help Reveal the Truth, which I'm all for at this point. This also points to Durga and Melissa and maybe even SP being the trinity of this AI. It wouldn't be unfeasable to me if a shipcrash split their mind up.

I'm sorry if I didn't explain this as well as I could, or be even coheirent. I'm supposed to be typing a paper for class... oops. ^^;

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The whole last group of Wavs on the recipe3 page were related to the contactme page.astald transmitted the wavs so the flea could hook up the connection to durga. I do like the analogy of creepy and it does have a connection to the wav of which you spoke. in fact SP and the Flea talked about this and it became defined as creepy in fleas language. That's an overview hope it helps clear things up.
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Re: [Spec] Something that's been bugging me...

Jettison42 wrote:
THe one where Jeresy asks Durga if anyone was spying on them, Durga saying No, she would know.

But she /is/ being spied on, otherwise we wouldn't have the clip, right? So, if we found some way to get that file to Durga, tipping her off... what would happen?

The wav files have been identified as coming from Durga...including the Jersey wavs. I believe Durga herself is recording her conversations with Jersey...whether on purpose or because Melissa wills it, I don't know.
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Nevertheless, the fact that we are hearing them through Melissa means that she is being spied on, in one form or another.
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That's exactly what I think he meant...

We were the ones listening in when he first said "creepy", and that was exactly what they were talking about...

Now, we've alerted Durga (and Jersey) of these files, and they're going to want to find out who "unlocked" them. ((After they deal with Thin of course.))

So then that means very soon... They'll be listening in on us, listening in on Melissa/SP/P Flea listening in on them, listening in on all those other people... Some of whom they didn't even realise until last week that they were listening in on...

And if that isn't creepy... I don't know what is.
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You get the feeling that the whole thing is about to be tied together and linked up rather neatly by something.. or someone? If Durga and Jersey can now start listening to Melissa... what if Jersey identified with Dana because she went through something similar? Or Jan, because he feel protective? More to the point.. could he and Durga affect Melissa and change her from this course?


.. or would they fail and in the process piss of Melissa even more?


This Spec is starting to give me a headache. Razz
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HitsHerMark wrote:
Now, we've alerted Durga (and Jersey) of these files, and they're going to want to find out who "unlocked" them. ((After they deal with Thin of course.))

So then that means very soon... They'll be listening in on us, listening in on Melissa/SP/P Flea listening in on them, listening in on all those other people... Some of whom they didn't even realise until last week that they were listening in on...


I think the first problem here is that Melissa is "Reflecting" Durga's penetration attempts back at her. But I think that's what Melissa is worried about (And what she was warning her "Crew" about in the phone calls). Now that Durga knows something else is happening with her, she'll want to track it down, which will (eventually) lead her back to the Pious Flea, Melissa, the Sleeping Princess, and ultimately us.

This is gonna prove interesting, I think.

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Jettison42
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GabrielBlade wrote:
This Spec is starting to give me a headache. Razz


Then my work here is done. ^^;

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anaerin wrote:
I think the first problem here is that Melissa is "Reflecting" Durga's penetration attempts back at her. But I think that's what Melissa is worried about (And what she was warning her "Crew" about in the phone calls).


That explains a few things.
1) The mirror that was in Melissa's tower (in SP's 404 pages -- oh so long ago), and
2) "They" that were coming for Melissa during the live calls are actually Durga's packets, and Melissa has to go hide from them so they don't reveal information Melissa wants to keep secret to Durga.

This may have been what you just said, but just wanted to say this anyway. #2 also doesn't fit well with the fact that they're from different times. But maybe ...

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This is all brilliant work, so let me just add in one more little tidbit.

The working assumption here is that the Flea is the one maintaining the spatial-temporal link between Melissa and Durga. I like that. It pleases me.

So, now we have to figure out how the Flea got onto the Apocalypso. I'm positing that the Flea was uploaded onto the Apocalypso by Standish in order to ensure the safe passage of whatever artifact the Ap was carrying. It makes some sense, since Standish has a reputation for being devilish and terribly cautious about his plans.

Take it or leave it.
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I think the general consensus is that the Flea was responsible for the feeling Melissa got of something being wrong. It's been established that this happened before the Apocalypso came across the Artifact. Since it's looking likely that the Flea isn't Covie tech after all, I'm leaning toward the SPEC that he's Herzog's agent, trying to find out what's going on because <herzog>"nobody tells me anything!"</herzog>
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Re: [Spec] Something that's been bugging me...

Platonix wrote:
I believe Durga herself is recording her conversations with Jersey...whether on purpose or because Melissa wills it, I don't know.


In an early wav, possibly in later ones, when Jersey moves, Durga pans speakers -- Jersey is always full on both.

Uh.. here you go.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=67754#67754
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Re: [Spec] Something that's been bugging me...

MarauderIIC wrote:
Platonix wrote:
I believe Durga herself is recording her conversations with Jersey...whether on purpose or because Melissa wills it, I don't know.


In an early wav, possibly in later ones, when Jersey moves, Durga pans speakers -- Jersey is always full on both.

Uh.. here you go.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=67754#67754

And?
Maybe Durga's getting the sound from Jersey's chatter in his pocket.
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