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Season 2 Official Discussion Thread
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The mask could give the Operator a false identity to latch onto and to stalk -- that is to say, the Operator being familiar with Tim as Masky might mean that Masky is stalked, but the Operator can't tell that it's actually Tim, and so leaves Tim without the mask alone.

I have to disagree. We saw evidence that Tim was already under the Operator's eye; why would creating the Mask persona suddenly make that stop?

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Zarggg wrote:
JKatkina wrote:
The mask could give the Operator a false identity to latch onto and to stalk -- that is to say, the Operator being familiar with Tim as Masky might mean that Masky is stalked, but the Operator can't tell that it's actually Tim, and so leaves Tim without the mask alone.

I have to disagree. We saw evidence that Tim was already under the Operator's eye; why would creating the Mask persona suddenly make that stop?


That's a good question, and one I don't have a solid answer for. We've seen Tim stalked by the Operator in the past, during the filming of Marble Hornets. Then we see him later apparently attending school in the same area, years later, in a manner that suggests that not only has he been there all along, he's been entirely able to function as a normal member of society. That suggests to me that, though he may have suffered early on, he eventually found a way to either segregate that from his normal life or escape it somehow.

The how is kind of a fuzzy part in this particular theory, I'll admit.

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JKatkina wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
JKatkina wrote:
The mask could give the Operator a false identity to latch onto and to stalk -- that is to say, the Operator being familiar with Tim as Masky might mean that Masky is stalked, but the Operator can't tell that it's actually Tim, and so leaves Tim without the mask alone.

I have to disagree. We saw evidence that Tim was already under the Operator's eye; why would creating the Mask persona suddenly make that stop?


That's a good question, and one I don't have a solid answer for. We've seen Tim stalked by the Operator in the past, during the filming of Marble Hornets. Then we see him later apparently attending school in the same area, years later, in a manner that suggests that not only has he been there all along, he's been entirely able to function as a normal member of society. That suggests to me that, though he may have suffered early on, he eventually found a way to either segregate that from his normal life or escape it somehow.

The how is kind of a fuzzy part in this particular theory, I'll admit.


Maybe Tim wasn't under the Operator's eye. Maybe he was only convenience-stalked when he got in the way or wandered into Slendy's territory, but was never specifically targeted like Alex.

If this is the case, Tim could have simply learned to avoid the Operator. He knows his hang-outs, and he probably knows that the Operator is more interested in Alex. When Tim was leading a normal life, he had no reason to go near Slendy hotspots, so he was fine. After Jay went and dragged him back into this mess, he donned the mask before venturing into the danger zones to escape the Operator's notice.

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 		The really, really big problem I have with the protection theory is that, as far as I remember, we've never actually seen how the Operator reacts to/interacts with any of the guys wearing masks. That being the case, there's pretty much nothing for us to go on when it comes to guessing what, if anything, the masks actually do or signify in connection with the Operator.

There's as much evidence for the masks being a sign of a Slendy-cult ("we can't eliminate our own faces to be like our Master, and even if we could we would not be worthy of His perfection, but with these masks we define new faces to wipe away our old selves and remake us in a manner pleasing to our Master...") as there is for the masks being protection. Namely, zero. They're a big mystery that the series hasn't even begun to explore yet; we know Tim was wearing a mask, we know that there are other masks out there (under circumstances that seem to imply other mask-wearers), but we still have precisely zero information even hinting at what the mask is for.

That being the case, I'm really reluctant to jump on the "mask = protection" bandwagon because it seems to arise from people liking the idea of the masks being for protection rather than the masks showing any protective properties.

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The really, really big problem I have with the protection theory is that, as far as I remember, we've never actually seen how the Operator reacts to/interacts with any of the guys wearing masks. That being the case, there's pretty much nothing for us to go on when it comes to guessing what, if anything, the masks actually do or signify in connection with the Operator.

There's as much evidence for the masks being a sign of a Slendy-cult ("we can't eliminate our own faces to be like our Master, and even if we could we would not be worthy of His perfection, but with these masks we define new faces to wipe away our old selves and remake us in a manner pleasing to our Master...") as there is for the masks being protection. Namely, zero. They're a big mystery that the series hasn't even begun to explore yet; we know Tim was wearing a mask, we know that there are other masks out there (under circumstances that seem to imply other mask-wearers), but we still have precisely zero information even hinting at what the mask is for.

That being the case, I'm really reluctant to jump on the "mask = protection" bandwagon because it seems to arise from people liking the idea of the masks being for protection rather than the masks showing any protective properties.


I pretty much totally agree with this. I remember when I first started watching the series, I wondered what the masks could be for. My brain did hover over the 'they do it for protection' button for a bit, but I didn't wind up pressing it and thus agreeing to that idea.

The main reason for this is, The Operator has no eyes. If it does 'see', it doesn't use eyes to do so, and likely doesn't really get put off by visual displays like masks.

The reason for the masks is probably internal and personal to the wearers. Normally, masks are worn to conceal one's identity, but Tim was unmasked when he had his leg busted. When he showed up in the hotel though, he was masked again.

So there likely is another reason for them, apart from the usual, and I don't think it's protection. It's entirely possible that they're all just nuts... and sometimes crazy people wear masks.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
The really, really big problem I have with the protection theory is that, as far as I remember, we've never actually seen how the Operator reacts to/interacts with any of the guys wearing masks. That being the case, there's pretty much nothing for us to go on when it comes to guessing what, if anything, the masks actually do or signify in connection with the Operator.

There's as much evidence for the masks being a sign of a Slendy-cult ("we can't eliminate our own faces to be like our Master, and even if we could we would not be worthy of His perfection, but with these masks we define new faces to wipe away our old selves and remake us in a manner pleasing to our Master...") as there is for the masks being protection. Namely, zero. They're a big mystery that the series hasn't even begun to explore yet; we know Tim was wearing a mask, we know that there are other masks out there (under circumstances that seem to imply other mask-wearers), but we still have precisely zero information even hinting at what the mask is for.

That being the case, I'm really reluctant to jump on the "mask = protection" bandwagon because it seems to arise from people liking the idea of the masks being for protection rather than the masks showing any protective properties.


I would point to Return as a piece of evidence supporting protection. Jay appears to have some kind of dark makeup on around his eyes, similar to the design of the mask. And the Operator walked right past him, toward the camera. That led me to believe that the mask does something similar - makes the wearer invisible to the Operator.

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YamaKami wrote:
I would point to Return as a piece of evidence supporting protection. Jay appears to have some kind of dark makeup on around his eyes, similar to the design of the mask. And the Operator walked right past him, toward the camera. That led me to believe that the mask does something similar - makes the wearer invisible to the Operator.
Uh, but on the other hand Jay seems completely sedated and helpless in Return. Could be the Operator walked straight past Jay because he knew Jay wasn't going anywhere until the Operator was done with him.

Also, if makeup is sufficient, why not just use makeup? Sure, it'll get you funny looks, but you can at least wear it 24/7 so that's actually better protection from the mask.

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 		i think alex stumbled upon something he shouldn't have during location scouting for the film. his life seemed to be fine before everyone started saying he was getting paranoid. i don't think slendy intends to harm people: how many times could he have killed jay but he just made him black out and put him back in his car or something.

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 		Alex's bleeding head, Tim's seizures, whatever the hell happened to Seth, Brian's disappearance, general slendersickness, memory loss.

The Operator does harm people. Whether or not he means to do it is unknown. What he's doing could be beyond our understanding. I believe the term for this is Blue and Orange Morality?
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Alex's bleeding head, Tim's seizures, whatever the hell happened to Seth, Brian's disappearance, general slendersickness, memory loss.

The Operator does harm people. Whether or not he means to do it is unknown. What he's doing could be beyond our understanding. I believe the term for this is Blue and Orange Morality?



none of that is confirmed to be the doing of the operator though

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Alex's bleeding head, Tim's seizures, whatever the hell happened to Seth, Brian's disappearance, general slendersickness, memory loss.

The Operator does harm people. Whether or not he means to do it is unknown. What he's doing could be beyond our understanding. I believe the term for this is Blue and Orange Morality?



none of that is confirmed to be the doing of the operator though


Let me get this straight.

You are watching a video series about Slender Man. Very significant things happen that cause bad things to happen to the characters.

And you assume that it has nothing to do with Slender Man.

Do you know the phrase "grasping at straws"?
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 		btw, anyone have a link to the original slenderman creation topic on somethingawful? i've been wanting to read it for a while

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 		Thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3150591&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

Slender Man post: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3150591&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=3#post361861415
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 		Operator Mask
But with episode 41, a figure is using what would seeming to be a operator protection mask to retrieve a camera from a location that was within the day frequented by the operator with no interference. The mask is different in color and design, but shares the large spots around the eyes, similar to the masky's. It may not be protection, but they are related.
Another thing: Jay is an unreliable narrator who's come into direct contact with the operator, the masky never(conclusively) has. Could he perhaps see jay and alex as tools of the operator?

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 		We don't know for sure what the purpose of the masks are, and I'm all but completely certain that Tim has come into contact with the Operator at some point.
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