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Entry #26 - The mysterious tape
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Timur
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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
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The only thing that irks me about this particular debate is that its basically perception based; its all about interpreting a very vague clip with unknown context. This reminds me of the whole "whos outside the car" debate. People will see from it what they want to see, be it another mask on a blonde girl, or a painted image for ambience. It just has so little context, and is so vague, I find it difficult to really discuss (the complete lack of context means that we have no evidence either way beyond the image, which pretty much means that its all about how you see it).

Now, this is no put down to Skully supporters, I'm just saying that I don't know how anyone can really "move" this debate. I am always glad to hear speculative theories, however, so how about this as a spot to post your speculative skully theories? Unless you see a better course of action, or you just found more evidence linked to the image.

Who says the skully thing is our main theory? We're just willing to accept it may prove to be important later on, whereas you seem to have some kind of grudge against non Tim-masks being important. May I ask why you're so against Skully?

I'm simply trying to voice my response to the debate...and also, notice how I never said it was not important, or will not come back. I'm simply saying that there is no real need for debate, as its impossible to push it one way or another. It very well could become important, and I'd be happy with that, but trying to say one side or another is TRUE and FACT until officially said otherwise is just not appropriate in this situation.

I have nothing against the theory that it may become important, so kindly stop trying to read into my statements. And even if I did have some vendetta, I see no reason not to state a valid opinion just because I don't agree with something someone else says. Sorry about the fuss, but I want to be clear about my views (which may change if good evidence is presented)

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 		Skully had blonde hair?

Looks more like a tan hoodie.

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 		"Skully" looks like a drawing of teeth taped over Masky's mouth. Or maybe Skully's whole mask is a drawing. I can't tell, but I hardly see how it would have an "identity" worth debating over.

Where's all the speculation about the flashing light at the end of the corridor? That looks significant, and isn't likely one of totheark's obvious artistic/creepy interpretations of what Masky's mask looks like.

Really, we've never seen Slenderman or anyone generate a flashing light before. Perhaps Seth was taken by Slendy when he with Alex in that dark building during Season 1, and that's the footage of it happening. (I'm a bit rusty when it comes to Season 1, so I may be completely wrong).

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 		On the Trailer on the DVD, there is footage of the figure walking through the corridor with no flash who turns around. It is revealed that is is Alex. There is also more frames of it.





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 		That actually looks more like Troy. He wears glasses too, you know.
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 		It does look a lot like Troy with Alex's haircut, posture, and face.

Production goof?

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It does look a lot like Troy with Alex's haircut, posture, and face.

Production goof?


Well, technically, in the entry, we never see the face. People watching the trailer at a festival would probably not pay close attention to it.
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 		Better to resurrect than start a new thread I guess. I think this series video clips are from Jay's 'broken camera' and skully mask is Jay. Jay planted the camera in Alex's house under the influence of Slendy.

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 		The concept of Jay being a secret or unknowing antagonist is just plain full on hurp durp. He may lie to us, or be an unreliable narrator, but the theory that he is a tool of the operator or that he is a masky doesn't just have jack shit backing it. In fact, it has a lot of things going against it. He runs from the operator, the operator attacked him, maskies attack him, etc etc.
The footage is obviously meant to be left over or residue footage of Alexs old college days, as implied by Alex saying, "That must be my old camera from college." Therefore it can't be Jays. No one planted it. It was in a box in the closet. Alex has just had it since then. Not a big deal, or a conspiracy. There may be clues in the footage, but they're definantly not suppossed to be dissected yet, and are probably just there for effect.
Hope this trims up some loose ends for people. What we should be thinking about is the what happened when the camera finally came on again. You know, the Operator. This really supports the cursed camera theory (Which I don't believe in personally, but it does support it.) And who sent the tape to Jay. That's the only two mysteries about it that need any analyzing.

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Cleavuz wrote:
The concept of Jay being a secret or unknowing antagonist is just plain full on hurp durp. He may lie to us, or be an unreliable narrator, but the theory that he is a tool of the operator or that he is a masky doesn't just have jack shit backing it. In fact, it has a lot of things going against it. He runs from the operator, the operator attacked him, maskies attack him, etc etc.
The footage is obviously meant to be left over or residue footage of Alexs old college days, as implied by Alex saying, "That must be my old camera from college." Therefore it can't be Jays. No one planted it. It was in a box in the closet. Alex has just had it since then. Not a big deal, or a conspiracy. There may be clues in the footage, but they're definantly not suppossed to be dissected yet, and are probably just there for effect.
Hope this trims up some loose ends for people. What we should be thinking about is the what happened when the camera finally came on again. You know, the Operator. This really supports the cursed camera theory (Which I don't believe in personally, but it does support it.) And who sent the tape to Jay. That's the only two mysteries about it that need any analyzing.


lol

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Cleavuz wrote:
The concept of Jay being a secret or unknowing antagonist is just plain full on hurp durp. He may lie to us, or be an unreliable narrator, but the theory that he is a tool of the operator or that he is a masky doesn't just have jack shit backing it. In fact, it has a lot of things going against it. He runs from the operator, the operator attacked him, maskies attack him, etc etc.
The footage is obviously meant to be left over or residue footage of Alexs old college days, as implied by Alex saying, "That must be my old camera from college." Therefore it can't be Jays. No one planted it. It was in a box in the closet. Alex has just had it since then. Not a big deal, or a conspiracy. There may be clues in the footage, but they're definantly not suppossed to be dissected yet, and are probably just there for effect.
Hope this trims up some loose ends for people. What we should be thinking about is the what happened when the camera finally came on again. You know, the Operator. This really supports the cursed camera theory (Which I don't believe in personally, but it does support it.) And who sent the tape to Jay. That's the only two mysteries about it that need any analyzing.


I theorize that Skullmasky could've been Jay and the footage could be from 2006. This would explain why Jay was gone and why he had so much memory loss from then. I think The Operator could've let go of Jay (And Tim) when Alex ran away, and that The Operator could've taken Tim back when Jay started looking at the tapes. I doubt he's been Skullmasky recently, but I think he could've been before. Also it just seems awfully coincidental Alex would happen to find the camera randomly 3 years later. There' no reason really he would bring it with him to his house after he moved.

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Cleavuz wrote:
The concept of Jay being a secret or unknowing antagonist is just plain full on hurp durp. He may lie to us, or be an unreliable narrator, but the theory that he is a tool of the operator or that he is a masky doesn't just have jack shit backing it. In fact, it has a lot of things going against it. He runs from the operator, the operator attacked him, maskies attack him, etc etc.

Why is it so hard to believe that becoming a Slenderproxy can happen to anyone? Do you seriously think Jay's immune? None of your examples even make sense. Tim most likely ran from the Operator and was attacked too. If you're gonna try to shoot down a theory, don't be stupid about it.
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Hope this trims up some loose ends for people. What we should be thinking about is the what happened when the camera finally came on again. You know, the Operator. This really supports the cursed camera theory (Which I don't believe in personally, but it does support it.) And who sent the tape to Jay. That's the only two mysteries about it that need any analyzing.

Oh yes. Agreed. Ignoring possible leads is the smartest thing anyone could do, ever. Just sayin'.

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The Kempest wrote:
Cleavuz wrote:
The concept of Jay being a secret or unknowing antagonist is just plain full on hurp durp. He may lie to us, or be an unreliable narrator, but the theory that he is a tool of the operator or that he is a masky doesn't just have jack shit backing it. In fact, it has a lot of things going against it. He runs from the operator, the operator attacked him, maskies attack him, etc etc.

Why is it so hard to believe that becoming a Slenderproxy can happen to anyone? Do you seriously think Jay's immune? None of your examples even make sense. Tim most likely ran from the Operator and was attacked too. If you're gonna try to shoot down a theory, don't be stupid about it.
Cleavuz wrote:
Hope this trims up some loose ends for people. What we should be thinking about is the what happened when the camera finally came on again. You know, the Operator. This really supports the cursed camera theory (Which I don't believe in personally, but it does support it.) And who sent the tape to Jay. That's the only two mysteries about it that need any analyzing.

Oh yes. Agreed. Ignoring possible leads is the smartest thing anyone could do, ever. Just sayin'.

/sigh


Wow. I didn't shoot anyone down or call them stupid. Chill man. It's just a youtube serial. Why is everyone here so hostile about everything?

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DHawk314 wrote:
Cleavuz wrote:
The concept of Jay being a secret or unknowing antagonist is just plain full on hurp durp. He may lie to us, or be an unreliable narrator, but the theory that he is a tool of the operator or that he is a masky doesn't just have jack shit backing it. In fact, it has a lot of things going against it. He runs from the operator, the operator attacked him, maskies attack him, etc etc.
The footage is obviously meant to be left over or residue footage of Alexs old college days, as implied by Alex saying, "That must be my old camera from college." Therefore it can't be Jays. No one planted it. It was in a box in the closet. Alex has just had it since then. Not a big deal, or a conspiracy. There may be clues in the footage, but they're definantly not suppossed to be dissected yet, and are probably just there for effect.
Hope this trims up some loose ends for people. What we should be thinking about is the what happened when the camera finally came on again. You know, the Operator. This really supports the cursed camera theory (Which I don't believe in personally, but it does support it.) And who sent the tape to Jay. That's the only two mysteries about it that need any analyzing.


I theorize that Skullmasky could've been Jay and the footage could be from 2006. This would explain why Jay was gone and why he had so much memory loss from then. I think The Operator could've let go of Jay (And Tim) when Alex ran away, and that The Operator could've taken Tim back when Jay started looking at the tapes. I doubt he's been Skullmasky recently, but I think he could've been before. Also it just seems awfully coincidental Alex would happen to find the camera randomly 3 years later. There' no reason really he would bring it with him to his house after he moved.


Yeah, I always thought it was weird the camera even existed. Especially since Alex was dead set on burning the tapes. Why not burn the camera too? Brings up a good point. I see how the camera could've been planted, I just don't think the creators meant for us to think that. Another thing I don't get about Jay being Skully is why does Alex talk to him immediately after marble hornets, or give him the tapes? If Jay was "gone" and alex knew tim was a masky, why trust anyone from the original crew? But I guess that's just a plot hole.

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Cleavuz wrote:
DHawk314 wrote:
Cleavuz wrote:
The concept of Jay being a secret or unknowing antagonist is just plain full on hurp durp. He may lie to us, or be an unreliable narrator, but the theory that he is a tool of the operator or that he is a masky doesn't just have jack shit backing it. In fact, it has a lot of things going against it. He runs from the operator, the operator attacked him, maskies attack him, etc etc.
The footage is obviously meant to be left over or residue footage of Alexs old college days, as implied by Alex saying, "That must be my old camera from college." Therefore it can't be Jays. No one planted it. It was in a box in the closet. Alex has just had it since then. Not a big deal, or a conspiracy. There may be clues in the footage, but they're definantly not suppossed to be dissected yet, and are probably just there for effect.
Hope this trims up some loose ends for people. What we should be thinking about is the what happened when the camera finally came on again. You know, the Operator. This really supports the cursed camera theory (Which I don't believe in personally, but it does support it.) And who sent the tape to Jay. That's the only two mysteries about it that need any analyzing.


I theorize that Skullmasky could've been Jay and the footage could be from 2006. This would explain why Jay was gone and why he had so much memory loss from then. I think The Operator could've let go of Jay (And Tim) when Alex ran away, and that The Operator could've taken Tim back when Jay started looking at the tapes. I doubt he's been Skullmasky recently, but I think he could've been before. Also it just seems awfully coincidental Alex would happen to find the camera randomly 3 years later. There' no reason really he would bring it with him to his house after he moved.


Yeah, I always thought it was weird the camera even existed. Especially since Alex was dead set on burning the tapes. Why not burn the camera too? Brings up a good point. I see how the camera could've been planted, I just don't think the creators meant for us to think that. Another thing I don't get about Jay being Skully is why does Alex talk to him immediately after marble hornets, or give him the tapes? If Jay was "gone" and alex knew tim was a masky, why trust anyone from the original crew? But I guess that's just a plot hole.


It's possible Alex didn't know Tim or Jay were maskified, if they were at the time, and may have just noticed that they had all together disappeared. After all they could've disappeared after a while of being maskies. He may have not recognized Jay or Tim if they were wearing masks, (Perhaps Tim was slightly less obvious back then.)

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