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Nova
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aliendial wrote:
Nova, try removing certain types of pairs - for example, what is left after you remove all the "true" opposites like over/under? Anything useful in what's left?
That's what I'm trying at the moment. There's 'in' but no 'out'... 'round' but no 'square'.. it's hard to define opposites for some of these as they have more than one meaning. :/
There's also the possibility that they don't go with opposites, but form phrases?
For example, do you pair 'OVER and UNDER' or, 'OVER and OUT'? 'ABOVE and BELOW' or 'ABOVE and BEYOND'?
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:59 pm
aliendial
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"round" the preposition does not go with "square". And I wouldn't think of them as opposites anyway - same with along and across.
The preposition "round" is the same as "around" .
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:05 pm
Nova
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There's 41 words, so there's 20 pairs and a spare. Hmm.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:06 pm
aliendial
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And maybe it's not just opposites (as you say that doesn't account for most of them), but maybe any kind of logical pairing.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:09 pm
fubarz
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Nova wrote:
I've been trying to pair up the words, like this:
ABOVE / BELOW
BEFORE / AFTER
OUTSIDE / INSIDE
FROM / TO
WITHIN / WITHOUT
OVER / UNDER
ALONG / ACROSS
ON / OFF
AGAINST / TOWARD
...but I'm not sure where I'm going with this.
BESIDE/ BEYOND
FROM /TO
I have been doing the same thing and I think each pair should be elminated.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:09 pm
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bcriswell
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aliendial wrote:
And maybe it's not just opposites (as you say that doesn't account for most of them), but maybe any kind of logical pairing.
"sounds like" pairing only seems to get partway.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:10 pm
nobodyman
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Hey sky, could you just specify the filename you tried rather than the whole url? I know it's valuable to rule stuff out, but when when you put in the url, the board automatically converts it to a hyperlink. I scan the the posts my eyes tend to focus in on the urls... only to have my hopes dashed when I read further down
Hope this doesn't come off as rude.
edit: typos.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:11 pm
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aliendial
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bcriswell wrote:
aliendial wrote:
And maybe it's not just opposites (as you say that doesn't account for most of them), but maybe any kind of logical pairing.
"sounds like" pairing only seems to get partway.
The idea being that the solve might be something that "sounds like" the residual preposition(s) after eliminating the other pairs.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:14 pm
chulo333
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as far as the pairing...there's problems. one example is:
does "Without" go with "Within" or "With"?
i dont think this is the solution
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:14 pm
aliendial
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You bark up your tree, then. Let the solvers run down the possibilities.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:17 pm
Nova
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This list of words is all we have for this puzzle, right? Just double checking there aren't any other clues
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:20 pm
MrToasty
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aliendial wrote:
"The preposition "round" is the same as "around" .
Looks like a lot of synomyms on the list. Opposite, for example, can be synonymous with beyond, across, about, around, etc.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:20 pm
chulo333
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aliendail: i'm not saying dont try it. i'm just voicing my opinion.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:20 pm
Nova
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I didn't say it had to be pairs - perhaps we're grouping the words together?
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:22 pm
skybruin
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yeah sorry about url's I am just copying the address bar, easier than typing. i'll edit them though now that should take out the url.
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:24 pm
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