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[SOLVESOLVESOLVE]Oct 8th PREPOSITION PUZZLE:usernameguy
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Shad0
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Re: resources

Mazian wrote:
http://www.itools.com/lang/

Allows you to find homophones and "sounds like" words.

I like http://www.rhymezone.com/, although it works better if you type in "proposition" than if you type in "preposition" (of which they have apparently never heard Mr. Green ). Look at all these rhymes! Alas, none of them seem to work, of course.

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abolition, acquisition, admonition, ammunition, apparition, bad condition, coalition, combat mission, competition, composition, daffynition, decommission, definition, demolition, deposition, dietitian, disposition, electrician, erudition, exhibition, expedition, exposition, extradition, eye condition, field emission, fondkommission, foreign mission, good condition, heart condition, house physician, imposition, inhibition, inquisition, intermission, intuition, in addition, in commission, in condition, in remission, jazz musician, malnutrition, new edition, obstetrician, opposition, phase transition, politician, precondition, preignition, premonition, prohibition, proposition, recognition, recondition, repetition, reposition, requisition, retransmission, rhetorician, skin condition, stage technician, statistician, superstition, supposition, text edition, trade edition, with ambition

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Re: resources

Shad0 wrote:
Mazian wrote:
http://www.itools.com/lang/

Allows you to find homophones and "sounds like" words.

I like http://www.rhymezone.com/, although it works better if you type in "proposition" than if you type in "preposition" (of which they have apparently never heard Mr. Green ). Look at all these rhymes! Alas, none of them seem to work, of course.

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WEll, the first site hands you off to rhymezone anyway, so it's all good.
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Nova wrote:
I didn't say it had to be pairs - perhaps we're grouping the words together?

True, but note that 41 is a prime # (in fact it's prime #13, which is also a prime) so as long as we dived them into even sized groups, there's always going to be so irregular sized group left over.

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tinkers_damn
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Preposition Puzzle

Here's one idea I'm trying:

Take the number of letters in each preposition.
Subtract 1 so that the lengths range from 1 to 9.
Get "96356314514465445351645646132753433154935"

Plays a tune on a touch-tone phone? (sounds like? Smile )

Spells something on the phone pad?

I don't have time to work on this right now.
I hope someone can continue this work or get
new ideas from it. Sorry if it wastes anyone's time.

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what are the clues that we need to be looking at? maybe if we just start over we'll have a better grasp on this...

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detayl
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Cold_Fire wrote:

Do you have a link to this master image list somewhere?


Ack, sorry, it's on my work PC. When I checked Inio's script site earlier today it was correct except that smoker.jpg was not listed.

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Re: clues

darkmoonz wrote:
what are the clues that we need to be looking at? maybe if we just start over we'll have a better grasp on this...

Unsolved Riddles from the Fireflies Wiki.
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thank you my good friend shad0, i was too lazy/too idiotic to look for the fireflies link... ( :

let's rock this!

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Has anyone solved CUTEBEE.Gif or langshivel.gif yet???

Want to know where to start! Busy day - I come here and this place is upside down...

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So far I see two potential solutions, or at least paths to a solution:

1) We are supposed to notice that the words are all prepositions, and so we want something that sounds like 'preposition'. I kind of like this, as the wav that's missing is seemingly Herzog talking to Rani. Perhaps offering her a job? What's another term for a job? A position. Position sounds like preposition. I've tried a few names along those lines (position, free_position, open_position, new_position etc) and had no luck yet.

2) The other possibility I see is that we're supposed to group the words and eliminate all of them save for a few, which become or sound like the file name we are after.

Any other ideas?
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they're all places/directions (you know what i'm talking about) too... i know that fits into the prepositions thing, but maybe we're suppossed to look underneath, then without (outside), etc...

just another point of thought (although without dashed my hopes as soon as i started reading) (:

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darkmoonz wrote:
they're all places/directions (you know what i'm talking about) too... i know that fits into the prepositions thing, but maybe we're suppossed to look underneath, then without (outside), etc...

just another point of thought (slthough without dashed my hopes as soon as i started reading) (:


Without can be used in terms of position (hence how it can be used as a preposition). It's a strange usage of the word, but a valid one.
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Re: ----------

Both "SOUNDS LIKE" and the list of 41 prepositions have a line of ten dashes above and a line of ten dashes below.

And "BETWEEN" happens to fall exactly in the middle of that list of 41 prepositions. So...

...can anyone do anything with "Between the lines"?
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here's the latest from #prepositions in IRC.

After the 12 hours we've been spinning the wheels on this, we're currently looking at the back-to-basics things we may have assumed ourselves over.

There are dashes in the puzzle, which make lines. What if the first file has the entire instructions?

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SOUNDS LIKE
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..."make a homophone after you read between the lines"

then someone noticed that "between" is number 21 on the list...the exact middle!

Homophonic Notes:being that there are about twenty ways to pair these prepositions, and about a hojillion homophones, this could take forever...and reek of brute force...if we just try homophoning each.

I also noticed that there are ten preps that work with the concept of reading between the lines: into, inside, in, between, among, through, along, within, amid, & throughout.

n00b was working on using a phone to dial the number of letters in each prep (he subtracted 1 from each to get usable numbers). http://www.dialabc.com/dtmfAgen/u108s_0746742562557655646275675724386454426504.au nobody recognized it.

In other craziness..what if the words are less important than their relative shapes...like they make a map or shape when turned on their back? file that under far-fetched.

I'm now trying a wine approach. It makes me feel more civilized, but doesn't really provide any clarity to the puzzle :/
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yeah, i knew that (as you can see from the first sentance)... i just like to contradict myself every now and again... it's my low self esteem...

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