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SpaceBass
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SPEC: Rectangle Trip One

So, we have this card list:

That shows the three "trip" cards and the rectangle wafer. Note that the symbols on the card list correspond to the symbols on the cards. I am assuming that the sides of the cards with the symbols shown on the list are the fronts.

Here are the cards shown in the same order as on the list, fronts only.

Ignition


Data_1


Data_2


Rectangle Wafer

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SpaceBass
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Now if we flip the ignition card over, we see the symbols that are on the fronts of the data_1 and data_2 cards.



The symbol for data_1 is labeled "base sequence" and the symbol for data_2 is labeled "patterns." Note also that the patterns symbol is really just four of the base sequences symbols overlayed on top of each other, one pointing to each of the four compass points (NESW).
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So let's take a look at the base sequence and patterns, flipping data_1 (below left) and data_2 (below right) over.



The base sequence card (data_1) has a 3x4 grid, with all but the upper-rightmost square containing one or two black rectangles or squares, rotated in some cases.

The patterns card (data_2) has a column of five squares, each with one or more numbers around the sides. From top to bottom they are numbered as follows (side indicated by compass direction):

Square 1: 1S, 2W, 3N, 4E
Square 2: 5S, 6W
Square 3: 7S, 8W, 9N, 10E
Square 4: 11S, 12W, 13N, 14E
Square 5: 15S

No clue yet what the stuff inside the squares means.
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The rectangle wafers are fairly unilluminating. They are thinner than the trip cards and somewhat translucent when held up to the light. The printing on the back and front is such that, when held up to the light, the symbols on the front and back overlap, with the rectangle at the top being situated within the black-bordered hexagon and the pentagon at the bottom being situated within the red hexagon. I'm not sure if this is intentional.


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Funny. I'm not feeling transported by all of this. Wink
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aliendial wrote:
Funny. I'm not feeling transported by all of this. Wink


stage 1 effect.

you'll get over it.
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Shocked

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redkore wrote:
stage 1 effect.
you'll get over it.


Would someone change the record? It seems to be skipping.....
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ScarpeGrosse wrote:
Would someone change the record? It seems to be skipping.....


sorry, Scarps.

repetitive measures are sometimes required in the early stages.

there's a lot of conditioning to undo.

please let me know if you'd rather i stay out of the way.
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From the redkore site:

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in the first 3 stages of trip study ("attunement"), the corresponding centers of the user's consciousness work together in attempting to unlock the trip's mechanism, with a different aspect dominating in turn: the intellect in stage 1, the imagination in stage 2, the intuition in stage 3.


So, the stage 1 effect, dominated by intellect.

I'd say if we're not careful, intellect has a way of painting ourselves into a corner by limiting ourselves to preconceived ideas about how things are supposed to work, or even what things are supposed to be.

This is all a big blank to me at this point. ARG or not, there's still no rulebook that I've ever found. Very Happy

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Interesting thread over at redkore:

http://www.redkore.com/tel_forums/viewtopic.php?t=33

The spec is that the whole "trip" idea is actually just the process of people's speculation, trying to figure it all out, comparing it to the Publius Enigma (hmm, where have I heard that before). The trip is what it turns out to be.

Apparently, Dan from RedKore originally replied, "Damn. You figured it out," and then edited hist post later to just say "Damn."

All I can say is, if this turns out to just be some new agey crap, I'm gonna kick some *ss. Wink Too much squirrely crap going on for my taste. For those of you who haven't been in the #unfiction chat channel, you probably don't know that Dan even stopped by there a couple of times, playing games with folks who were there.

I don't think the emperor is wearing any clothes.

Well, at least I got a magnet for my fridge outta the deal. Rolling Eyes

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TELEPORT vs. Plubius Enigma

My point wasn't to compare the Plubius Enigma to TELEPORT, but just that the two are similar in that they are sort of the obvious thing you might not expect.

The big difference here, of course, is that TELEPORT is charging money and the Plubius Enigma was free with your purchase of a Pink Floyd CD or concert ticket.

See, if TELEPORTATION isn't an actual PHYSICAL teleportation, but some sort of transport in a non-physical sense (they refer to it as "astral projection"), then, by clicking a few links in "hyperspace" you've been "teleported".

Big deal. Get it? We all get teleported anytime we click a link on a website, but this guy's made a "game" out of it that costs $20.

Like I said, if this is NOT the case, he should speak up and say so. No pussyfooting around it. I'm calling him on his product and if I'm not correct, he needs to stand up for his product. However, he also needs to at some point in time come up with an actual alternative answer...

And you know what? I sincerely doubt there will ever be a different answer. At least not one that is more vague and obtuse than his "clues" about how it all "works".

Don't waste your money, guys. Just wait it out.

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SpaceBass wrote:
The rectangle wafers are fairly unilluminating. They are thinner than the trip cards and somewhat translucent when held up to the light. The printing on the back and front is such that, when held up to the light, the symbols on the front and back overlap, with the rectangle at the top being situated within the black-bordered hexagon and the pentagon at the bottom being situated within the red hexagon. I'm not sure if this is intentional.


Seems like it probably would be intentional, since the ignition card is a rectangle inside a hexagon...

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in the first 3 stages of trip study ("attunement"), the corresponding centers of the user's consciousness work together in attempting to unlock the trip's mechanism, with a different aspect dominating in turn: the intellect in stage 1, the imagination in stage 2, the intuition in stage 3.


So, the stage 1 effect, dominated by intellect.

I'd say if we're not careful, intellect has a way of painting ourselves into a corner by limiting ourselves to preconceived ideas about how things are supposed to work, or even what things are supposed to be.

Isn't this what happens during a lot of game play in AR, 1st you try to use your intellect and if that doesn't work, then imagination, then intuition. Sometimes you have amazing leaps in intuition, or that has been my experience so far, but generally you go thru these three steps to attain your goal. We only get stuck when we try to only use intellect. Walk away from it for a bit, and it usually starts to come together....
I haven't got the cards, but the face on mars thing seems to be signified by the rectangles and other shapes, as seen thru Hoagland's tetrahedral geometry...
I don't think this is a rip off anymore than paying 12 bucks to see a movie is. Even if this is all it is, it has kept us all entertained and discussing things for many more hours than a movie!! Very Happy

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witchywindy wrote:
I don't think this is a rip off anymore than paying 12 bucks to see a movie is. Even if this is all it is, it has kept us all entertained and discussing things for many more hours than a movie!! Very Happy

that's also the way i look at it.

and the way everyone should look at it.

Very Happy
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