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[seriousbandits]

Probably nothing but I wonder why the change in format? The first 3 were videos and this one is a link. HABIT, you're driving me crazy.

[qaqa]

HABIT, you're beginning to bore me.

/shameless taunting

[ChildOfAtom]

Well... one was technically more of a song than a video. Could just be as simple as there not being an appropriate Albert Fish doc?

[Luipaard]

[qaqa]

Yeah, it's become extremely predictable. "Look what a special snowflake I am." I'm sorry, HABIT, but I just don't believe you've been all these terrible men and are responsible for these atrocities. I believe you wish you were. And in either event, you're not leveling with us, you're just stroking yourself heavily.

You want to capture our attention? Contact us, talk. Otherwise, people are going to keep on thinking you're a patsy with a lot of big talk who bitches to his tall, thin, immaculately-tailored boss but can't actually accomplish much for himself.

(qaqa used Taunt)

[Adah]

So the Rake seems pretty intent on Jeff and his family - in fact, he's only really ever hurt anyone else, on-camera at least, when Evan tried to get in the way (unless I'm remembering wrong, which is a distinct possibility). I have to wonder, why his family too? It seems like Slender Man was being characterized as "jealous" in a way, as far as killing the pastor in Fairmount Vince's notes and (probably) taking Jessa. But why the Rake? Until now he's just seemed like a fairly uncontrollable horrible monster. Does he answer to someone?

I also don't really like how a lot of the buildup to the upcoming updates has been happening in e-mails and blog posts on a site that previously said "hey, no updates here anymore!" I could very easily have missed all these things if I didn't lurk here all the time and I'm sure some people did. Interaction with viewers is really great and I definitely appreciate the time and effort, but it seems to me like important plot/characterization shouldn't happen that way. ANYWAY I'm excited for things to get back on track.

Also, excuse me if any of this has been brought up before. I haven't been following the thread recently.

[KeithXK]

So. Jeff's admission explains a few things to me that I've been wondering about. It also adds to the larger picture.

It's bothered me for awhile that since the "13 year old girl" video, the notion of Jessa's disappearance has basically been dropped. Seemed like it was forgotten or that Jeff no longer cared.

However, if he lost his parents a few months earlier, and steeled himself at that time, it makes more sense that he's almost completely desensitized towards these things now.

And I DO think this draws a connection to CYSTW, because to me it actually explains why Jeff had such an irrational opinion and reaction to her. I thought he suspected her for Jessa's disappearance more than was necessary at the time. But the fact is her early posts DID seem to allude to what had happened to his parents, and she was also connected to Jessa. Two things appearing to be connected to someone who is grieving could cause a terrible reaction like that.

I also think all of this shines a big question mark over both Jeff and Alex. Think back to "Jeff" and the flash of Alex having purple tape over his mouth with someone in the background.

These two have gone through some terrible, terrible things. Things that could easily break someone and fracture their mind. And it easily suggests to me that one of them could have a split personality. Perhaps one who thinks he's an age old evil.

What I think we're seeing her isn't that Habit possess people and jumps from person to person. We already have characters who appear to be reincarnations of other people. What if this split personality just THINKS he's the newest incarnation of evil.

What if Jeff is Habit? It would easily, EASILY explain a lot of things, including the phantom tweets. It's not supernatural hacking, it's just someone with two personalities.

This of course does not explain what the hell the overall point of this story, or Slenderman's presence, or even the Rake's presence means...but yeah.

[Lewa]

[qaqa]

I don't know who HABIT is. None of us can say for sure. Yes, it could be anyone.

Good call on Jeff possibly being very upset with all the water/rain/flooding imagery that was on CYSTW from the start. And the fact is that both he and Steph responded to losing loved ones and family trauma in equally complicated ways, because they had little to no support system or medical counsel. Has Jeff seen anyone about it? I think not.

So we know their backgrounds. We don't know Evan or Vince's. And while all the other children connected to Corenthal in the interim since the Centralia 4 succumbed may not have been directly tied to SM at first - or maybe they were - we do know, or at least suspect, that all the Centralia kids' trauma pre-dated the fire and was probably Slender-driven all along. Because they were selected. We don't know full background on Vincent or Stephanie, but we know Jeffrey's family was killed because "the Man" made his father do it, we know "the Man" wouldn't share Vincent with the priest, and we know HABIT was either Fairmount Evan or with Fairmount Evan from the start. They were chosen, and action was taken so SM could have them.

We can say the same thing for Jeff and Steph here, maybe. These things happened to them, were made to happen, because SM groomed his victims.

[Luipaard]

I wonder, then, what SM-caused tragedies Evan and Vince aren't talking about? (If Vin was molested as a kid in this current timeline, I will legit break something.) And how it connects with their Fairmount counterparts. (We never did find out why HABIT and F!Steph ended up in the childrens' home, did we?)

[qaqa]

I think we know why HABIT was there, if not full specifics; that Evan had a history of horrific violence. We don't know Stephanie. Or how Linnie came into the picture, later, but I suspect it's because of the Rake, who would seem to be a Slender-tool here, some sort of trained attack dog.

As for Evan and Vince today, maybe there isn't any history of trauma. Who knows.

[Jsor]

This is a sort of an out there theory but... could Alex be HABIT? "My brother wanted to emulate bands like Animal Collective and just have everyday-nonsense synced to miscellaneous beats."

Now, they all like Animal Collective, but this is the first person we've confirmed likes them enough to want to emulate them, and AnCo shows up in many of HABIT's videos. In addition they tend to have shots of everyday things interspersed with the weirdness, very "experimental."

In addition, at the end of Slushpops and Surprises we get ENTER THE blahlblahblah, if we assume HABIT is referring to himself... Alex is formally introduced as a character in the UStream that happens very soon afterwards. Yes, he was introduced in ADITL, but he wasn't really that important of a character in it, a few lines but I'd consider his real introduction as one of the "main gang" to be in that UStream. (This is by far the weakest point, but hey!)

Since Jeff does the bulk of the editing, Alex would have unfettered access to pretty much all of their footage at any time just by sneaking into his brother's room.

"But the Rake attacked him!"

Well, the Rake attacked Evan too, and he's not precisely the last choice for HABIT right now. Besides, the Rake is always hanging around Jeff's house, so it could be more like his house (i.e. Alex has him stay there). There's also something rather symbolic about the parallel between Alex+Sparky and HABIT+Rake, especially when the Rake was using Sparky as a puppet, like how HABIT may be using the Alex persona as a puppet. I'd say Alex is a decent bet.

This still isn't to say Alex is necessarily consciously HABIT, but he's quite... unhinged, which could leave room for him to be weak enough to be taken over by HABIT.

This is just a hypothesis though, the parallels between Fairmont Evan/HABIT and our Evan are really strong, so he may have a better case going for him, but Alex looks like a good second or third runner to me.

[Ouroborus]

Just a placeholder here for stuff I was talking about last night/this morning:

According the twitter account, ADITL happened on 5/30/11

[Lewa]

[Ouroborus]

oops. (I hope)