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WhyYouBawwing
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Randoman96 wrote:
We already established that the baby is supposed to be Masky.

Ive been gone for a while now. How are "we" so sure the baby represents masky?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:17 am
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Notverygood
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Blah blah first post blah created account just to reply blah blah.


WhyYouBawwing wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
We already established that the baby is supposed to be Masky.

Ive been gone for a while now. How are "we" so sure the baby represents masky?


The doll most likely either represents Masky or J (probably Masky);
Masky -
The doll seems to be having trouble with its movement - Tim's leg is smashed.
Look at the face of the doll - the mouth and it's right eye (left looking at it) have been... altered and the phone key in the other eye represents either Masky's ability to see the Operator, or vice versa (both, maybe?)

J-
Since J has filmed the Operator (and probably still possesses the same camera) he is now "seen" by the Operator (key in the doll's eye) and is now targeted (going with the tainted camera theory here, because it makes sense to me), and J seems to be having difficulty with... everything (throwing back to the doll crawling)

It had been mentioned at some point that the doll could represent Jessica (she would have had one as a kid) or Alex (who was stalked by the Op. since a young age, enttry 37), but those seem rather unlikely to me.


On another note - stop motion is now completely ruined for me. Creepy TTA is creepy.

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Rodion Romanovich
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Notverygood wrote:
Blah blah first post blah created account just to reply blah blah.


WhyYouBawwing wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
We already established that the baby is supposed to be Masky.

Ive been gone for a while now. How are "we" so sure the baby represents masky?


The doll most likely either represents Masky or J (probably Masky);
Masky -
The doll seems to be having trouble with its movement - Tim's leg is smashed.
Look at the face of the doll - the mouth and it's right eye (left looking at it) have been... altered and the phone key in the other eye represents either Masky's ability to see the Operator, or vice versa (both, maybe?)


I think what settles it are the eyebrows, which have clearly been added to make the doll resemble the mask. But "resembling the mask" doesn't necessarily have to mean "representing Masky".

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Notverygood
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Rodion Romanovich wrote:


I think what settles it are the eyebrows, which have clearly been added to make the doll resemble the mask. But "resembling the mask" doesn't necessarily have to mean "representing Masky".


I knew I forgot something!

Though why would it not represent Masky, after all the effort put in to make it look like his mask? I doubt something like that would be intended as a red herring.

If not Masky, who do you think it represents? Why?

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Rodion Romanovich
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Notverygood wrote:
Rodion Romanovich wrote:


I think what settles it are the eyebrows, which have clearly been added to make the doll resemble the mask. But "resembling the mask" doesn't necessarily have to mean "representing Masky".


I knew I forgot something!

Though why would it not represent Masky, after all the effort put in to make it look like his mask? I doubt something like that would be intended as a red herring.

If not Masky, who do you think it represents? Why?


Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but I just don't want to jump to any conclusions here.

The doll could represent Jay, and the mask could be an indicator (!) of being under control. The message of the video would then be that Jay is being controlled in the same way as Tim-as-Masky was, and maybe even that Jay has used a mask of his own. After all, the doll seems to represent whomever the video is addressing (like when "you will never be free" is followed by an image of the doll being fenced in), and what reason is there to believe that it's addressing Tim?

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NewInTown2
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Rodion Romanovich wrote:
Notverygood wrote:
Rodion Romanovich wrote:


I think what settles it are the eyebrows, which have clearly been added to make the doll resemble the mask. But "resembling the mask" doesn't necessarily have to mean "representing Masky".


I knew I forgot something!

Though why would it not represent Masky, after all the effort put in to make it look like his mask? I doubt something like that would be intended as a red herring.

If not Masky, who do you think it represents? Why?


Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but I just don't want to jump to any conclusions here.

The doll could represent Jay, and the mask could be an indicator (!) of being under control. The message of the video would then be that Jay is being controlled in the same way as Tim-as-Masky was, and maybe even that Jay has used a mask of his own. After all, the doll seems to represent whomever the video is addressing (like when "you will never be free" is followed by an image of the doll being fenced in), and what reason is there to believe that it's addressing Tim?


What if instead of the doll being fenced in, it's the cameraman that's fenced in by the doll? I still am under the impression that the doll is Masky and that TTA is warning Jay that Masky is still out there stalking him.

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Sabine die Zeitmachine
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Throwing in my two cents.
The audio that was decoded (besides the bit about Jessica), from what I hear says..

"Would you please produce something? Appreciate it"

Edit; Messages/Signs everywhere. My guess is it's actually a reference to the TTA sign in Entry 41.

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Rodion Romanovich
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NewInTown2 wrote:
What if instead of the doll being fenced in, it's the cameraman that's fenced in by the doll? I still am under the impression that the doll is Masky and that TTA is warning Jay that Masky is still out there stalking him.


That's certainly possible. But my original point was simply that the doll resembling the mask could be interpreted in different ways, and right now I don't see any logical reason to choose one theory over the other... so I remain neutral. I'm just Swedish boring that way.

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amrith777
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Sabine die Zeitmachine wrote:
Throwing in my two cents.
The audio that was decoded (besides the bit about Jessica), from what I hear says..

"Would you please produce something? Appreciate it"

Edit; Messages/Signs everywhere. My guess is it's actually a reference to the TTA sign in Entry 41.


This makes sense to me

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12th
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Rodion Romanovich wrote:
I think what settles it are the eyebrows, which have clearly been added to make the doll resemble the mask. But "resembling the mask" doesn't necessarily have to mean "representing Masky".


You know, I don't necessarily agree with the idea that the eyebrows were added in. I think the coincidence of similiarity is only that. I've seen generic dolls with those kinds of eyebrows before. It's something that part of how the doll is painted.

As for the rest of this, I really have no idea. For being one of the most communicative TTA entries so far, the intent of these message is still pretty obscure. Consider me in the "TTA speaking to the Audience" camp for the moment. Or at least partially to the audience.

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NewInTown2
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12th wrote:
Rodion Romanovich wrote:
I think what settles it are the eyebrows, which have clearly been added to make the doll resemble the mask. But "resembling the mask" doesn't necessarily have to mean "representing Masky".


You know, I don't necessarily agree with the idea that the eyebrows were added in. I think the coincidence of similiarity is only that. I've seen generic dolls with those kinds of eyebrows before. It's something that part of how the doll is painted.

As for the rest of this, I really have no idea. For being one of the most communicative TTA entries so far, the intent of these message is still pretty obscure. Consider me in the "TTA speaking to the Audience" camp for the moment. Or at least partially to the audience.


You know you're right. It seems that the more TTA directly communicates, the less we can fully understand it.

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DHawk314
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Perhaps totheark was referring the external hard drive Jay had been not looking at when (s)he was talking about all the signs/messages he was ignoring.

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Notverygood wrote:
The doll seems to be having trouble with its movement - Tim's leg is smashed.


I'm just going to say that I don't think that we can definitively say that the doll is having trouble moving. It's stop motion, which not only limits how something can be filmed, but it also gives the video a distinct style. I don't think that style can be seperated from body language in the video.

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DHawk314 wrote:
Perhaps totheark was referring the external hard drive Jay had been not looking at when (s)he was talking about all the signs/messages he was ignoring.


I second this. It all seems too well timed to be anything but that.

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EDIT: Just found out I'm the dumbest, hahaha. My bad. Gonna, uhh, retreat back into silence.

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