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AUZ505
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A lot of time has passed since I had Latin courses at school Sad

But there are some internet sites:

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I am still not sure about the third character but I think it is a "b"

libatio: libation (noun sg fem nom)
nominatum: named I have big problems here. Could be perfect passive participle but not sure to which noun it belongs.
servus validus: strong (healthy) slave (noun sg masc nom)
mos: the habit, the way in our case: the ritual (noun sg masc nom)
infinitas: infinity (noun sg fem nom)
infinitis: infinit (adj pl ....)

so we have a lot of nouns in the nominative case (servus could be an adjective) and there is no verb at all - at least I can't find it.

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Regarding the first word on the stairs..

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I have to agree that the first word definitely looks like "LIGATIO", which translates to "imprisonment, bondage, captivity, servitude"



EDIT: I Pretty much go the same thing as the others, except for the last letter of the last word.

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LiGatio Nominatum servus validus mos infinitas infinitiO

Taking the most relevent words, and realizing a ritual of some sort was performed, we can only infer it was either a ritual to ward off, or summon.

If it were to summon, words like Servitude, "In particular we", "Servant of", Powerful, Will (thank you stupid google translator)

Could it be something along the lines of:
"In your name we submit to your limitless(infinite) power"?


EDIT2: Regarding the center of the Pentagram:

Ive managed to work it enough in photoshop to see somewhat of a word in the dead center (Green part) of the Pentagram. From what I can see, the letters are:

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"SOL_ _EN"

and there appears to be some sort of symbol under it, or perhaps more letters. If you want ill post the image im working with so you can see what I'm seeing.


Hopefully someone else who is more versed in Photoshop can clarify a bit more than I can.

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the occultist tweeted/DM'd everyone this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB7veRV86zI&feature=share

ETA: The flashing letters in the eye translate to:
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praecavē:umbra advertent virum luce anium ad pontem

which in turn translates (again, crudely) to:
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beware: it turns toward the light of the shadow of a man at the bridge, Anius
"anium" can also translate to "bent" instead of Anius. Not sure where I'm going with this, but the bridge just makes me think of Suicide Bridge.


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within the eye of the praecave video, what ive gotten is:

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metnopdamina(c/k) m(u/v)i(u/v)tnetre(u/v)da arbm(u/v) : e(u/v)a(c/k)earp

Which backwards spells:

Praecave : umbra advertentvirum (c/k)animadpontem

the first two reverse words i got right, i think i may have mixed something up with the other two.

Edit to this Randoms solve:
now that Im looking at it, I got something a bit different, I got:

praecave : umbra advertent virum animad pontem

Which roughly translates to
"beware: it turns toward the man noticed by the shadow of the bridge"

Basically the same thing once translated though, so still a gj man.



EDIT: haha damn i got ninjad Sad randoms was better anyways, gj!

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Perhaps the Beware the Light Bends to the shadow of man at the bridge?

I definitely agree though, suicide bridge seems to be the only bridge mentioned thus far.


My audacity doesnt seem to want to play nice right now, so I'm just working off ear here, but just to be thorough, what I can hear in the praecave video is:

(muffled)
Did you see anything else around here, is this it?
(muffled comment from carol)
you didnt see anything else right?

Could the mention of Shadows and Bridges be a reference to the first pic shown on this page? http://laghostpatrol.com/2011/01/pasadenas-suicide-bridge/

If it is, I dont see where we would go from there..

EDIT2 (these edits are killin me lol) Did anyone else notice on theoccultists youtube channel, under his profile he lists his favorite book as "La Divina Commedia"? Quite the reference to Dante and Hell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy

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did someone notify carol of these new finds?
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I sent her an email about the stairs translation she said she would be meeting up with the rest of them tonight to discuss it

Forgot to mention, in the yfrog picture from the occultist, the one titled "Where was Tyler last night?" besides the obvious shadows at the top and bottom right, did anyone else notice any letters in the upper left hand corner?

I tried messing with photoshop and it looks like a P and under it H.. it could be just me making something out of nothing though..

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RandomGuy26 wrote:
the occultist tweeted/DM'd everyone this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB7veRV86zI&feature=share

ETA: The flashing letters in the eye translate to:
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praecavē:umbra advertent virum luce anium ad pontem

which in turn translates (again, crudely) to:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
beware: it turns toward the light of the shadow of a man at the bridge, Anius
"anium" can also translate to "bent" instead of Anius. Not sure where I'm going with this, but the bridge just makes me think of Suicide Bridge.


I think we do not need spoilers for those latin stuff. If someone disagrees just post it or send me a PM

I have more or less the same but I do not see this "e" at "luce". Could someone else see the "e".
So I only get "lucanium". And "advertent" is 3rd person plural future (they will direct):
Regarding the rest:

Umbra (as a group) will direct the man lucanium to the bridge.
Speculation: Lucanium could a form of lucanius a latin name now often spelled LUKAS! So maybe UMBRA tries to direct Lukas to the bridge (to perform suicide?!)
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So just to be clear, the obvious puzzles we have to work on right now are:

1) The letters inside the Pentacle and on each of its 5 arms.
a) HAL_ _ _ (Arm), ABD_ _ (Arm), SOL_ _M (in Middle)

and the other arms Im still working on.. there doesnt seem to be individual pics of the other arms however Sad

2) tsitluccoeht.com (youhavebeenwarned) link

need to figure out the user name and password.

Other than that it just seems we're at the mercy of new videos/pics/info at this point. Does this sound right?

EDIT: Good call on the Lukas being led to Suicide Bridge. I think you are onto something there.

As for the Pentacle, I zeroed in on another arm and Im getting the word "Pallaton". Whether it should be split up, where the word "Palla" is latin for "Robe" I'm not quite sure. The word Pallaton itself can be someones name appartently as well, which can be translated to "Warrior".

Heres the pic I was working with.

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the other ones I was messing with were:

As Carol said in the video, "HAL"(ION?)



and lastly the ABD(LA?)



And the middle, which I managed to make somewhat clear, except for a small part. From the looks of it it says "SOL(ES?)EM



Sorry for the size of this post, Im not great at resizing it and still allowing it to keep its clarity (if it wasnt obvious already lol)

If anyone sees anything different feel free to chime in.

Edit: Heres the link to my photobucket account so you can see them larger if needed.http://s1134.photobucket.com/albums/m616/SilckySmooth/

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Sorry this deserved another post, I got it!

The Pentagram outside the Cobb Estate is called the "Pentagram of Solomon"



from http://paganandproudofit.com/Pentagram-from-the-Key-of-Solomon.html

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The Pentagram from the Key of Solomon

The words on the seal have the following meaning:

Abdia - I conjure thee in secret, O Spirit!
Ballaton - Come forth from thy abode and speak clearly in my speech.
Bellony - Put forth thy might and discover unto me the knowledge and power in thy keeping.
Halliy - Answer in the inward silence all of my questions without fail.
Halliza - Assume and show forth unto me thy form of divine perfection.
Soluzen - Open unto me thy secret door and fulfill me of my purpose!

Which as one could well imagine is a very powerful spell
for opening the way to knowledge ..a key that unlocks the door
of the mind and so thought King Solomon


EDIT: New blog post up on http://www.carolshaunting.com/, Her friend translated the Latin:

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Latin: praecave: umbra advertent virum lucanium ad pontem.
English: Beware: The Shadows direct/turn the man from Lucania to the bridge.

For all you Latin nerds out there, Tyler's friend thinks "lucanium" is Ablative of Lucania an ancient city in southern Italy and "ad pontem" is the Accusative of Place to Which. Sooo glad I took French! Smile


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AUZ505
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Nice find!

Have you sent this to Carol?

EDIT: new post from Carol on her blog. The sentence means:
Beware: The Shadows direct/turn the man from Lucania to the bridge.

Lucania is a city in Italy.
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AUZ505 wrote:
Nice find!

Have you sent this to Carol?


Thanks Smile Yeah I emailed her as soon as I posted it here, I'll let you know the reply as soon as it comes.

As for Lucania in Italy.. there appears to be a somewhat famous bridge there was well, called the "Railway Bridge" or the "Flying Bridge".. not sure of its relevence to this though..

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AUZ505 wrote:

So I only get "lucanium".

First of all, oops Embarassed sorry if my misplaced e caused anyone confusion.
Regarding the word itself, good catch, that sounds about right. I wouldn't be surprised if Lukas is in fact the Lucanian man. (Not sure if it's to be taken literally or just as a clue; maybe Lukas isn't his real name, but he somehow descends from Lucania?) It doesn't seem coincidental.

SilckySmooth, nice find indeed on the pentagram!

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Thanks Random, you actually had the Latin dead on i dont think anyone could have seen the curveball from southern Italy..

as of right now, the only puzzle we have yet to figure out is the Username and Password on tsitluccoeht.com (youhavebeenwarned) hidden link.. Ive tried just about every keyword we've come across, in both boxes and still no dice.. I guess we'll have to wait for more clues unless someone strikes gold first.

EDIT: just got an email from Carol.

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Thank you so much for your help Michael. It is very much appreciated and I'm so glad there are people out there helping. I was recently informed that the statement could be referring to Lukas (see comment under my latest blog post) and yes I think you're right about the Suicide Bridge....that place just radiates evil. At the moment we are trying to figure out what 'umbra' is. Some have suggested an organization of some kind...do you have any knowledge of this? Urgh...my smoke detector is freaking out again...this is all driving me crazy! Thanks again for your help...I just want this mess cleaned up and my life back to normal.
Carol


regarding the comment from her blog post at Carolshaunting.com, Carol appears to have made a comment under her own last blog. I'll quote it here to save you time.

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Earlier, I was sent some emails with v. useful information (don't know what I'd do without you!!) and I found this in particular very interesting.
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"lucanium" is not clear but could be a forum of "lucanius" which is a latin name nowadays used as LUkAS!
So maybe Umbra is trying to direct Lukas to the (suicide) bridge (to perform suicide?!). Should we warn Lukas?
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If anyone has an email address for Lukas you should definitely warn him of this incase it is referring to him. I don't have any contact info for him since he only commented on this blog.


I personally haven't had any contact with Lukas, so if someone else has, it would be a good idea to email him with the threat of harm that Randomguy had figured out from the Praecave video.

EDIT2: Just to be thorough, I figured I should also post my response to Carols mail, in case anything significant arises from my suggestions to her.

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I'll start looking into the significance on Umbra in all of this. It is starting to get strange that your smoke detector is going off consistently now. Considering shadow people are just that, shadow, and not smoke, I'd just be real careful from now on because where there's smoke, there's fire. How does Gizmo react just before the alarm goes off? Does he sense anything prior to it? Maybe try and keep a camera focused on the detector to see if anything is interfering with it? Just some suggestions. We're all working hard to figure this out for you, just try and stay safe in the meantime. Let me know Sam and Tyler's thoughts on all of this. In the meantime I'll get to work on Umbra, as well as continue to try and crack the username and password on tsitluccoeht.com/owtegap.

You're quite welcome for the help, it's what any decent person would do when another is being haunted by malevolent beings, no? Smile

Michael


EDIT10,0000: I reread the OP's first post and realized he provided Lukas' email address (erawebSPLATrocketmail.com). I decided to shoot Lukas an email of the warning Carol asked us to send him.

Here is a copy of the email for reference sake.

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Hello Lukas,

We haven't met yet but my name is Michael. I've been helping Carol and the others figure out exactly what is going on with this occultist guy, and something has come up that may be a sign that you are personally in immediate danger. The latest youtube video from tsitluccoeht titled "Praecave" contained a superimposed "All seeing eye" that quickly flashes Enochian letters, which we have been able to decode into a backwards latin statement. With the help of Carol and a friend, as well as Randomguy, the latin statement was shown as follows:

Latin: praecave: umbra advertent virum lucanium ad pontem.
Carols friend was able to translate it to english.
English: Beware: The Shadows direct/turn the man from Lucania to the bridge.

We believe the part "Lucanium" is a referece to "Lucania" which has very close relations to your own name. The bridge, we believe, is Suicide Bridge, located near Devils Gate.

By following this translation, we think there's a chance this "shadow" is going to make you attempt to commit suicide at the bridge. If there is anything you can tell us that can help us to prevent this, or to help Carol more than you've already tried, it is very important you do so.

Do you have any idea what the importance of UMBRA is in all of this? Or perhaps the Pentagram of Solomon (Seal of Solomon)? Like I said, any info you give us, will only help you. You can trust us, we're here to help.

-Michael


If I get a reply you guys will be the first to know.

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I went ahead and sent Lukas what we learned from the warning. It probably wouldn't hurt for someone else to send something too, I haven't had that much contact with him before.
Regarding Carol's smoke alarms; they do make Photoelectric detectors where the difference in light caused by smoke causes them to go off. Shadow people are basically moving darkness (from what I understand), so I can see a shadow person triggering it if he passed through one. That seems to be what they're hinting at, anyway.
(I did make a mistake on the Latin, though. AUZ is the one who corrected me.)

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Ah, interesting. I didn't know that there were alarms like that. Good call. She just said that Gizmo was standing there staring right before the alarm went off last night, so I told her if he acts weird before it goes off again then theres a good chance its more than just mechanical issues (Which is most likely obvious at this point).

Umbra seems to be a focus point now, hopefully Lukas replies with some more info on it.

EDIT: Another interesting tidbit regarding Umbra.

According to wikipedia,

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Umbra is the Latin word for shadow
in mythology, it refers to the "shades" of the dead, see shade (mythology)


When I clicked on "Shade" my eyes instantly caught a familiar title:

Quote:
In the Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri, many of the dead are similarly referred to as shades (Italian ombra), including Dante's guide, Virgil.


If you remember, La Divina Commedia was listed as theoccultists favorite book in his youtube channel. coincidence? maybe..

E: Rereading Carol's emails, I may be barking up the wrong tree with this one. I missed the line where she said that some people have said Umbra may be an organization..

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