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AUZ505
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The umbra organisation theory is from me. I sent Carol an email yesterday with my translation. So the email Carol has cited in her comment is mine. I post it and her reply for completness:

AUZ505 wrote:

Hi Carol,

I am following your story and maybe some of my friends have already sent you some translations of the things you found.
This is what I got:

Libatio (The binding)
nominatum (some strange latin construction --> "to be named" or similar)
servus (slave or slavish)
validus (healthy, strong)
mos (ritual)
infinitas infinito (eternity)

No idea what it could mean. A lot of nouns in the nominative case and no verb.

In the latest video of theocciultist there are also several of these strange symbols (which are btw Enochian). That's what I translated:

Preacave:
umbra advertent virum lucanium ad pontem

which translates to something like

Be warned:
umbra (I guess it is an organisation) will direct the man lucanium to the bridge.

"lucanium" is not clear but could be a forum of "lucanius" which is a latin name nowadays used as LUkAS!
So maybe Umbra is trying to direct Lukas to the (suicide) bridge (to perform suicide?!). Should we warn Lukas?

An organisation like the LAGP might have connections to some latin experts that could help in translating.

and her reply
Carol wrote:

Yes, we're seeking help right now for a confirmed correct translation of this (if such a thing exists) since it could potentially mean that Lukas is in danger if that is his name in there. Thank you so much for your help...you could well have saved his life with this info and maybe mine! I'm looking into 'Umbra' as an organization too but so far nothing.

So it is not clear yet if it is indeed an organisation or not.
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[quote="AUZ505"]The umbra organisation theory is from me. I sent Carol an email yesterday with my translation. So the email Carol has cited in her comment is mine. I post it and her reply for completness:[quote="AUZ505"]

Ah, sorry about that Auz! I should have given you the credit you deserved for that praecave vid Embarassed

Quote:
Libatio (The binding)


It may be tit-for-tat, or me trying to be as precise as possible regarding these Latin words, but I just wanted to know if I'm perhaps using a different form of Enochian.

The letter "B" in the alphabet I'm using looks like;



Enochian G is



The letter in question is shown as;



The only reason I'm even bothering to bring this up is because this one letter could change the translation of the word entirely, so for the sake of thoroughness I figured we'd have better footing if we knew exactly which it was. (by no means am I trying to call you out Auz)

If it were Libatio, the translation would be Libation

If the word is Ligatio, the translation could mean Imprisonment, Captivity or more appropriate to the context, Servitude.

I could be wrong entirely, so let me know what you guys think.

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You are right. I had played around with both versions and at the end was confused. So it should be ligatio which tranlates to "binding" regarding the sources I have (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=ligatio&la=la)
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New Blog Post (#6) on http://www.carolshaunting.com/2011/06/video-blog-6-fire-alarm/

Im no expert but theres definitely some morse code inside that fire alarm. working on it now.

ETA: Its really hard to hear some of it due to her talking over it, however I think the first two letters are C: (-.-.) then R: (.-.), then the talking starts. My audacity hasnt been working so I'm SOL in that department. Hopefully someone else can figure this one out.

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coverted the flv file to an audio file.. dont know how to extract the morse code feed, but someone should be able to do so...
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I removed the alarm noise by using Adobe Audition's noise reduction effect. After that, I captured the beep so it would cancel all the remaining sound except for the morse code. I hope I didn't butcher the audio as much as to miss some beeps.
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I was able to decode the morse (unfortunatley without the new cleaned audio which would have made it much easier)

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

"Crossing the Acheron.
We feed on your fear"

In greek mythology the Acheron is the river of pain and was one of the five rivers of the underworld.



EDIT. I have send an email to Carol
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Nice Solve Auz!

This is getting even more interesting..

ETA: Wow, another reference to theoccultist's favorite book, La Commedia Divina.

Not clear on the immediate relevance, but the fact that this book makes refererences to Acheron can't be just a coincidence.

From http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantInf1to7.htm#_Toc64090922:

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Inferno Canto III:70-99 Charon, the ferryman of the Acheron

And then, as I looked onwards, I saw people on the bank of a great river, at which I said: 'Master, now let me understand who these are, and what custom makes them so ready to cross over, as I can see by the dim light.' And he to me: 'The thing will be told you, when we halt our steps, on the sad strand of Acheron.' Then, fearing that my words might have offended him, I stopped myself from speaking, with eyes ashamed and downcast, till we had reached the flood.
And see, an old man, with white hoary locks, came towards us in a boat, shouting: 'Woe to you, wicked spirits! Never hope to see heaven: I come to carry you to the other shore, into eternal darkness, into fire and ice. And you, who are there, a living spirit, depart from those who are dead.'
But when he saw that I did not depart, he said: 'By other ways, by other means of passage, you will cross to the shore: a quicker boat must carry you.' And my guide said to him: 'Charon, do not vex yourself: it is willed there, where what is willed is done: ask no more.' Then the bearded mouth, of the ferryman of the livid marsh, who had wheels of flame round his eyes, was stilled.

Inferno Canto III:100-136 The souls by the shore of Acheron

But those spirits, who were naked and weary, altered colour, and gnashed their teeth, when they heard his former, cruel words. They blasphemed against God, and their parents, the human species, the place, time, and seed of their conception, and of their birth. Then, all together, weeping bitterly, they neared the cursed shore that waits for every one who has no fear of God.
Charon, the demon, with eyes of burning coal, beckoning, gathers them all: and strikes with his oar whoever lingers. As the autumn leaves fall, one after another, till the branches see all their spoilage on the ground, so, one by one, the evil seed of Adam, threw themselves down from the bank when signalled, like the falcon at its call. So they vanish on the dark water, and before they have landed over there, over here a fresh crowd collects.
The courteous Master said: 'My son, those who die subject to God's anger, all gather here, from every country, and they are quick to cross the river, since divine justice goads them on, so that their fear is turned to desire. This way no good spirit ever passes, and so if Charon complains at you, you can well understand, now, the meaning of his words.
When he had ended, the gloomy ground trembled so violently, that the memory of my terror still drenches me with sweat. The weeping earth gave vent, and flashed with crimson light, overpowering all my senses, and I fell, like a man overcome by sleep.


I don't want to sidetrack anything, but surfing through the characters mentioned in "The Divine Comedy", there was mention of "Lucan" (Lucania??):

(also from http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Italian/DantindexIJLM.htm#Lucia)

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Marcus Annaeus Lucanus, AD 39-65, the Roman writer, born in Cordova in Spain and educated at Rome. He served under Nero, fell into disfavour, and committed suicide at Nero's command. His unfinished epic, the Civil War, or 'Pharsalia' after its climactic battle, was a poetical guide to Dante in his ideas of Roman history.


Italy, Lucan(us), someone being "commanded" to commit suicide.. it's all the keywords we've been researching, but again, I don't want to sidetrack so just take for for face value as of now.

ETA2: Oddly enough, according to Act III, Scene 1 in the (Play?) "Nero", Charon (The ferryman of Acheron) is referred to as

"Umbra Brittanici, Charon"

Which roughly translates to "The Shadow (Ghost?) of Britain, Charon". As I just thought it odd that the word Umbra and Acheron were connected through Charon and Nero.. (Source: http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/gwinne3.html)

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Lukas emailed me in reply about what the praecave video said. I basically told him to be stay away from the bridge and be careful. All he said was
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The shadows were watching me last night. I see them even in daylight now. I don't know how much longer I can handle this.

It's possible that he already knew about what was foretold in the video... either way, he is clearly losing hope and becoming discouraged.

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Yeah I just noticed I had a mail from him also after sending him basically the same Email.

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This is all just too much to handle. I think I am losing my mind.

Lukas


Where do we go from here? Only thing left to solve is the username/pw and thats a needle in a haystack at this point.

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Got another Email from Carol (Decided to double post to seperate subtopics)

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Do you have any more info on what a 'shade' could be?
Also, did you get word to Lukas about the 'warning'?


and my response:

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Ever since I took note of The Divine Comedy, it has been popping up repeatedly. The word Umbra is a word used for Ghosts of the Underworld, commonly known at the time as "Shades". Then after the mention of "Acheron" in the morse code hidden in your alarm, I came across a blaring reference again, seeing as how Dante literally crossed the Acheron (the river of sorrow, one of 5 rivers labeled within Hades) in the Divine Comedy, by means of Charon, the ferryman of the dead.

Other interesting yet possibly sidetracking info that could just relate by coincidence is the fact that within The Divine Comedy, there is a mention of a character named Lucan, as shown here:

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Lucan
Marcus Annaeus Lucanus, AD 39-65, the Roman writer, born in Cordova in Spain and educated at Rome. He served under Nero, fell into disfavour, and committed suicide at Nero's command. His unfinished epic, the Civil War, or 'Pharsalia' after its climactic battle, was a poetical guide to Dante in his ideas of Roman history.



Italy, Lucan(us), someone being "commanded" to commit suicide.. it's all the keywords we've been researching, but again, I don't want to sidetrack so just take for for face value as of now.

I just found it odd that Lukas may be at the hands of the same fate this "Lucanus" fell to.

As for Lukas, myself as well as a few others emailed him with the threat of harm that was deciphered. All we got really were despondent and seemingly hopeless responses from him, giving the impression he has all but given up. I feel something is going to happen to him if he doesn't snap out of this and become more proactive in his own proliferation (hows that for alliteration, my English Professor would be proud! lol). The only real info we were able to squeeze out of him was:

"The shadows were watching me last night. I see them even in daylight now. I don't know how much longer I can handle this."
(to Randomguy)

and,

"This is all just too much to handle. I think I am losing my mind."

to myself. I replied back asking him if he knew anything of Archeron so I'm really hoping he has more info he can provide so we can help him, and in turn, yourself.

How are things going on your end? did the alarms cease after the last video? Stay safe and write back when you get a chance.

-Michael


Her question about Shades was in response to an Email I sent her with the info involving Umbra being known as "Shades" in Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy, which seems to be popping up repeatedly ever since we found it mentioned on theoccultist's youtube profile.

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Also got a short reply from Carol after sending the morse code solution:

Carol wrote:

That's interesting. I never even noticed the morse code. So whatever is in my apartment is feeding on my fear? I'm trying to act brave!! Any luck with the protected site? Anything I can do to help?


It seems we should be already able to find the login and password, but there are so many possibilities.
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AUZ505 wrote:


It seems we should be already able to find the login and password, but there are so many possibilities.


Hi folks - lurker coming out of the umbra so to say Wink

I don't think there's a username - just a password. The pop up box only says, "password required" I have tried a good many of the key words you've hit on and many more with no luck.

Also with Lukas talking about how he feels he's going mad and the possibility of him being lead to commit suicide . . .

I can't remember how I got there but I was reading here specifically:
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Parsons "swore the Oath of the Abyss, having only the choice between madness, suicide, and that oath. (then) I took the oath of a Magister Templi, even the Oath of Antichrist before Frater 132, the Unknown God. And thus was I Antichrist loosed in the world; and to this I am pledged, that the work of the Beast 666 shall be fulfilled." Who knew it was so easy?


Might be way out there but worth a mention I thought since it talks about an abyss, an oath, madness and suicide.

Also has anyone with graphics skills looked at this picture?
It's from the Visit to JPL blog post. It's the only blurry photo out of the bunch.

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AUZ505 wrote:
Carol wrote:
So whatever is in my apartment is feeding on my fear? I'm trying to act brave!! Any luck with the protected site?

It seems we should be already able to find the login and password, but there are so many possibilities.

The Morse code said "we feed on your fear" meaning the people who are crossing Acheron, right? Of course my first thought is the Inferi from Harry Potter, but perhaps someone who has read higher literature has a better idea. I've tried searching for "Grand Summoner" as well, figuring that "I Am" would be the username, and whatever these fear-feeders are called would be the password, but that has also been a dead end (no pun intended).

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catherwood wrote:
whatever these fear-feeders are called would be the password (no pun intended).


I've actually been googling my brains out tryin to figure out what feeds on fear that could be relevant to this and its all coming back to Shades, Acheron, Hades, Charon, Dante Alighieri, and La Commedia Divina..

There hasnt been much reference to the Pentagram of Solomon, ever since we figured it out.. just a fyi, the pentagram itself is from the Lesser Key of Solomon, which also houses summoning spells for 72 different denizens of the underworld, Umbra not among them however..

the original Umbra Sigil we found has been on my mind lately, if only because of all the sigils of the Goetia (Lesser Key of Solomon), Umbra is actually not among them which I find odd.. I started going through a few of the 72, in case one made reference to Umbra but no dice so far..

I agree with Auz. If Carol is asking if we solved the Username/PW, then we must already have it and just havent hit paydirt yet..

ETA: Ive had some luck with photoshop lately so ill mess around with the pic Cherry, if anything pops up I'll let ya know.

Also, without going back to check, I forget if I mentioned my interest in this pic:



Besides the Obvious Shadows in the upper and lower righthand portion, if you look at the upper left portion, and mess with the brightness/contrast, there appears to be either letters or symbols, feint, but there.. (I'm working all angles here so theres always the chance this could be nothing, and for sidetracking people i appologize.).

My eyes may be going blurry but is there something faint under Sams hand as well? Some sort of circle?

Also, Could "I am the grand summoner" be some sort of Anagram? Working on possibilities now..

ETA: A List of Goetic Orders, according to http://www.scribd.com/doc/2532370/The-Goetia. The page itself in actually an interesting read.

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Akashic Brotherhood
We don't have much contact with them They are too material, even when dealing with spirits. They may listen to angels and demons, but do they listen to themselves?

Celestial Chorus
They claim we are Satanists and worse. They have tried many times to crush us in the past, and may try again if they get a chance. Fortunately they are weak today, and will probably remain so. The Goetic mages are deluded. They think they can deal with dark forces without tarnishing their souls.

Cult of Ecstasy
They appreciate the material world like we do, but they seek to transcend it through pleasure instead of knowledge. they will hardly succeed, but will
probably not notice. Dealing with demons is tempting. I mean, you have all heard of Succubi? But I wonder if its worth the price.

Dreamspeakers
They have some limited contact with the spirit world, but they treat the beings they encounters as equals. That is a very dangerous mistake. These mages try to command the spirits they should listen to.

Euthanatos
They have much contact with the spiritual world, but often its darker sides. They often have interesting information, if you can get them to talk about it. However, they are also quite dangerous. Goetic mages should be watched carefully. All to often they fall prey to the dark forces both outside and inside themselves.

Hollow Ones
Some mages just haven't a clue. To sell your soul to the devil you must have a soul in the first place!

Trenchcoaters
These orphans are very irritating. They have an annoying habit of appearing at
critical moments and ruining our rituals, yelling about leaving the spirit world
alone and whatnot. They seems to think they are protecting the world from dark
and misty threats of magick, but most of the time they just interfere with serious
studies instead of doing anything reasonable.
These mages are the epitome of what the fight against. Magick for its own sake,
for power, for intellectual pride and for material gain without concern for the rest
of mankind. They dabble in forces they really can't command, and sooner or later
they will fall.

Sons of Jupiter
These orphans are our friends. We help them out sometimes, and vice versa. They have an insatiable interest in magickal power and knowledge, which our magick can help them with. Unfortunately, they are also quite interested in stealing information and talismans, which can be very irritating. If anybody else has understood the price of magick, these guys have. They have even turned it into the economics of magick, playing magickal business-sharks with their spirits. But they do have power, and they have more foci than they can keep track of...

Order of Hermes
Most of the Order do not really want to understand us, and we don't care about it. The Alchemists are often quite rewarding to discuss matters with, they have retained their links into their past. The Rosicrucians and Cabalists play their abstract games of politics and abstraction, without any real care about the real world. The Enochians are our students, but have become slaves to the beings they summon. Use caution with them. They are atavisms, both dark, medieval and baroque.

Sons of Ether
Playing with their toys. They study the soulless matter around them, not seeing the invisible strings which make it move (and maybe themselves?). Summoning spirits? Well, they really are self-sustaining patterns in the Ether, but the Goetics won't understand it. By the way, the real reason a pentagram or a triangle keeps them in is that the morphogenetic field of angles disturb them...

Verbena
Like us, they have been unfairly persecuted by an misunderstanding world. In their case, the persecutors may have been more right than wrong. Like all "High" mages, they have lost touch with nature and themselves. Their
experiments have made the wrath of Church and State descend on all of us. But they will harvest what they have planted sooner or later. In many cases, its sooner for them.

Virtual Adepts
Amusing themselves with little games and petty illusions.
Drawing pentagrams, chanting, weird robes and summoning demons... why does they sound like the classic wizard in a video-game?


One other thing that may have been overlooked, besides the Umbra being translated to literally "Shadow", it is also frequently referred to as a place where spirits reside, almost like limbo.. So the Sigil Found with the word UMBRA around it, could actually be part of a ritual summoning a demon FROM the Umbra..

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