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[LOCKED] The Master Theorem, "Members-Only Society of Puzzle-Solvers"
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pinocchio
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 		You've got the letters right.
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The next step is, assigning the letters 1,2,3,4,... according to order, and then placing them according to the code shown for the answer: 3 is p, 5 is r, 8 is e, and so on.
York05 wrote:
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Ninian wrote:
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Did just that, in about every permutation I can think of, got nothing but gibberish.

There must be something I'm missing.


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You then rearrange them in order of the other set of numbers.


I'm still getting gibberish.

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The letters I got were: esptrnee. And that was by taking the nth letter of each name. I can't seem to find another set of letters that makes any sense.


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You have the letters just put them in the right order. Use the numbers you already have but haven't used. If you get stuck then try something else.


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recourse
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 		I'm still stuck on recursion. Is the puzzle page something you get to by URL manipulation? Am I just trying the wrong addresses?

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pinocchio wrote:
You've got the letters right.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The next step is, assigning the letters 1,2,3,4,... according to order, and then placing them according to the code shown for the answer: 3 is p, 5 is r, 8 is e, and so on.
York05 wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
Ninian wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
Did just that, in about every permutation I can think of, got nothing but gibberish.

There must be something I'm missing.


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You then rearrange them in order of the other set of numbers.


I'm still getting gibberish.

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The letters I got were: esptrnee. And that was by taking the nth letter of each name. I can't seem to find another set of letters that makes any sense.


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You have the letters just put them in the right order. Use the numbers you already have but haven't used. If you get stuck then try something else.


That's the thing. I still get nothing but gibberish. Trying another path.

ETA: Got it. Don't know how I got it, but I did, and the answer still doesn't make any sense. Oh well. I guess this is like Await the Hour.
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pinocchio
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 		How could you not understand? I spelled it out, and gave you the first three letters... Question

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pinocchio wrote:
How could you not understand? I spelled it out, and gave you the first three letters... Question

Frankly that one had me pulling my hair out too, I got/guessed the solution another way.
I also spent a long time looking a a scene from a movie that was filmed there, and had to do with mind reading. Wink
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pinocchio wrote:
How could you not understand? I spelled it out, and gave you the first three letters... Question


Because the letters I had were, for some reason, in the wrong order. I don't know how that happened at all.
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Cougar Draven wrote:
pinocchio wrote:
How could you not understand? I spelled it out, and gave you the first three letters... Question


Because the letters I had were, for some reason, in the wrong order. I don't know how that happened at all.


When I did this one, I ended up with the letters in the wrong order too... I just anagrammed them though and got the word that way

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recourse wrote:
I'm still stuck on recursion. Is the puzzle page something you get to by URL manipulation? Am I just trying the wrong addresses?

Sounds like you're not looking in the right place. You must not have looked over everything in navigation bars. Look for something that looks recursive.
You could get there from URL manipulation. But you're overlooking the intended way.

I actually feel like an idiot because this is the only theorem that got me stuck so far. I'm sure I'm making this harder than it should be. I noticed... something right off, but I don't know where to start.
EDIT: Nevermind. To clarify I was actually talking about the current Crayola puzzle (accidental confusion!). I realized what I did wrong a few minutes after posting, though.

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 		Just..wow.

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RandomGuy26 wrote:
recourse wrote:
I'm still stuck on recursion. Is the puzzle page something you get to by URL manipulation? Am I just trying the wrong addresses?

Sounds like you're not looking in the right place. You must not have looked over everything in navigation bars. Look for something that looks recursive.
You could get there from URL manipulation. But you're overlooking the intended way.

I actually feel like an idiot because this is the only theorem that got me stuck so far. I'm sure I'm making this harder than it should be. I noticed... something right off, but I don't know where to start.


Hey, RG. If you think you have the right answer, but you're not making any sense of it, try flipping the axes. (Of course, I could be wrong about your issue.)
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 		I actually feel like an idiot because this is the only theorem that got me stuck so far. I'm sure I'm making this harder than it should be. I noticed... something right off, but I don't know where to start.
EDIT: Nevermind. To clarify I was actually talking about the current Crayola puzzle (accidental confusion!). I realized what I did wrong a few minutes after posting, though.[/quote]

Well then, can you help me, because I am totally stuck and feel like such a dork. I know what process to use to solve it--in fact, the hints did not help me at all because I already knew all that--I just CANNOT figure out what order the stupid crayons are supposed to be in! I've tried as many combinations as I can think of, ordering them based on all different sorts of logic, and am just getting nowhere. I know I am missing something obvious, but this is just one of those times where I can't seem to get out of my own way. Pleeeeeeeeease HELP?!

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Well then, can you help me, because I am totally stuck and feel like such a dork. I know what process to use to solve it--in fact, the hints did not help me at all because I already knew all that--I just CANNOT figure out what order the stupid crayons are supposed to be in! I've tried as many combinations as I can think of, ordering them based on all different sorts of logic, and am just getting nowhere. I know I am missing something obvious, but this is just one of those times where I can't seem to get out of my own way. Pleeeeeeeeease HELP?!


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They are in the correct order, but it's the direction you read them that's important.

I had trouble at first too, but then again, I lean towards a straight forward approach. Wink
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Red Dog
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ne0x wrote:
Red Dog wrote:
Well then, can you help me, because I am totally stuck and feel like such a dork. I know what process to use to solve it--in fact, the hints did not help me at all because I already knew all that--I just CANNOT figure out what order the stupid crayons are supposed to be in! I've tried as many combinations as I can think of, ordering them based on all different sorts of logic, and am just getting nowhere. I know I am missing something obvious, but this is just one of those times where I can't seem to get out of my own way. Pleeeeeeeeease HELP?!


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They are in the correct order, but it's the direction you read them that's important.

I had trouble at first too, but then again, I lean towards a straight forward approach. Wink


Well, I finally got it, but it wasn't a result of this hint. For those who are stuck, key info in the spoiler below:

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There are TWO DIFFERENT COLOR LISTS that are linked to the main page the theorem sends you to, and the hex codes are DIFFERENT on three of the colors!! I was going crazy, because I knew I was doing it right, but I was not coming up with a usable code. I finally just keep clicking different links until I stumbled on a different Crayola list, and sure enough, two of my codes (jungle green and sky blue) were entirely different, and a third (lemon yellow) was three digits off. MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!!


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Red Dog wrote:
ne0x wrote:
Red Dog wrote:
Well then, can you help me, because I am totally stuck and feel like such a dork. I know what process to use to solve it--in fact, the hints did not help me at all because I already knew all that--I just CANNOT figure out what order the stupid crayons are supposed to be in! I've tried as many combinations as I can think of, ordering them based on all different sorts of logic, and am just getting nowhere. I know I am missing something obvious, but this is just one of those times where I can't seem to get out of my own way. Pleeeeeeeeease HELP?!


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
They are in the correct order, but it's the direction you read them that's important.

I had trouble at first too, but then again, I lean towards a straight forward approach. Wink


Well, I finally got it, but it wasn't a result of this hint. For those who are stuck, key info in the spoiler below:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
There are TWO DIFFERENT COLOR LISTS that are linked to the main page the theorem sends you to, and the hex codes are DIFFERENT on three of the colors!! I was going crazy, because I knew I was doing it right, but I was not coming up with a usable code. I finally just keep clicking different links until I stumbled on a different Crayola list, and sure enough, two of my codes (jungle green and sky blue) were entirely different, and a third (lemon yellow) was three digits off. MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!!


That's...really bizarre. I'll have to take a look at that.

ETA: Yeah, I'm only seeing the one list here. Where did you find the second list with the different values?
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Red Dog
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Cougar Draven wrote:
Red Dog wrote:
ne0x wrote:
Red Dog wrote:
Well then, can you help me, because I am totally stuck and feel like such a dork. I know what process to use to solve it--in fact, the hints did not help me at all because I already knew all that--I just CANNOT figure out what order the stupid crayons are supposed to be in! I've tried as many combinations as I can think of, ordering them based on all different sorts of logic, and am just getting nowhere. I know I am missing something obvious, but this is just one of those times where I can't seem to get out of my own way. Pleeeeeeeeease HELP?!


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
They are in the correct order, but it's the direction you read them that's important.

I had trouble at first too, but then again, I lean towards a straight forward approach. Wink


Well, I finally got it, but it wasn't a result of this hint. For those who are stuck, key info in the spoiler below:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
There are TWO DIFFERENT COLOR LISTS that are linked to the main page the theorem sends you to, and the hex codes are DIFFERENT on three of the colors!! I was going crazy, because I knew I was doing it right, but I was not coming up with a usable code. I finally just keep clicking different links until I stumbled on a different Crayola list, and sure enough, two of my codes (jungle green and sky blue) were entirely different, and a third (lemon yellow) was three digits off. MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!!


That's...really bizarre. I'll have to take a look at that.

ETA: Yeah, I'm only seeing the one list here. Where did you find the second list with the different values?


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At the bottom of the page under "See Also," click "List of Colors". There's a nice, alphabetized list of colors--including Crayola names--with hex codes. But if you look at jungle green, for example, the hex code is different than if you click on the hypertext "jungle green," look to the right on the Jungle Green page, click on the "Crayola" link next to "Source," and then look up Jungle Green on THAT list. Funny, they cite the Crayola list as a source, and then GET THE CODE WRONG. Really???


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