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[LOCKED] The Master Theorem, "Members-Only Society of Puzzle-Solvers"
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UncleBeard
Greenhorn

Joined: 12 May 2011
Posts: 6

Re: Stay Puzzly, My Friends

Cougar Draven wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Cougar Draven wrote:

UncleBeard wrote:

It's been a while since a theorem stumped me this hard. I think I've come to reasonable conclusions on each group, but I can't figure out what to do with the data.

Look for something that jumps out at you.

I admit, I had some problems with this one as well (didn't get it until almost a full hour after, and I needed all three hints), but to my credit, I picked up on the right idea almost immediately.

I'm still totally flummoxed. All I can figure out is this:

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For group 2, I can see that either 1 or 3 has to be false; if 3 includes the time period when 2 exists, then 3 is false for certain 1 and 3 are mutually exclusive. For group 5, #2 is the most likely false, as if #2 in group 2 is true, then it's not likely (but still possible) that #2 in group five is false

But that's all I can say for certain. Everything else is dependent on one another, but I can't get it all down. Any ideas, people?

I'd say that if you're struggling, just move on to another group and see what you can do. One of the hints gives the order in which it is easiest to discern truth from falsehood.

I've been working & reworking the groups. It's frustrating that I'm not sure if the work I'm doing after I find the falsehoods is the correct strategy. I've been working on & off all day and fear that it's almost time to put it to bed for a day or so.

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:27 pm

Riveran
Guest

Stay Puzzly

I am confused as well. I think that I have the correct set of words from each group, but I am unsure what to do with them.

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I've tried combining the first letters, re-working the words to find anagrams... nothign is making any sense.I think the problem is that I'm in the right mind-set, but I am not 100% sure I have the correct lies.

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:08 pm

UncleBeard
Greenhorn

Joined: 12 May 2011
Posts: 6

Re: Stay Puzzly

Riveran wrote:

I am confused as well. I think that I have the correct set of words from each group, but I am unsure what to do with them.

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Same here

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:13 pm

Cougar Draven
Entrenched

Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Posts: 1190
Location: Potentially everywhere.

Re: Stay Puzzly

UncleBeard wrote:

Riveran wrote:

I am confused as well. I think that I have the correct set of words from each group, but I am unsure what to do with them.

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Same here

Well, in this case...

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Think about what the title is parodying. More specifically, the /product/. It should make a little more sense there.

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Actually, in retrospect, I think you're both making it too difficult.

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:42 pm

Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Re: Stay Puzzly

Cougar Draven wrote:

UncleBeard wrote:

Riveran wrote:

I am confused as well. I think that I have the correct set of words from each group, but I am unsure what to do with them.

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Same here

Well, in this case...

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Think about what the title is parodying. More specifically, the /product/. It should make a little more sense there.

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Actually, in retrospect, I think you're both making it too difficult.

I get that....

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It is parodying a beer commercial, but I cannot see a connection between Beer, advertising and the lists.....

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:49 pm

Cougar Draven
Entrenched

Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Posts: 1190
Location: Potentially everywhere.

Re: Stay Puzzly

Riveran wrote:

Cougar Draven wrote:

UncleBeard wrote:

Riveran wrote:

I am confused as well. I think that I have the correct set of words from each group, but I am unsure what to do with them.

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Same here

Well, in this case...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Think about what the title is parodying. More specifically, the /product/. It should make a little more sense there.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Actually, in retrospect, I think you're both making it too difficult.

I get that....

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It is parodying a beer commercial, but I cannot see a connection between Beer, advertising and the lists.....

Well, for starters...

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An easy way to check to see if you have a right answer is to see if it works when you enter it. I realize that's probably Captain Obvious speaking, but I got the answer by guessing.

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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:48 am

ne0x
Veteran

Joined: 30 Jun 2006
Posts: 89
Location: Ottawa, Canada

Re: Stay Puzzly

Cougar Draven wrote:

Well, in this case...

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Think about what the title is parodying. More specifically, the /product/. It should make a little more sense there.

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Actually, in retrospect, I think you're both making it too difficult.

Not only was a over thinking this, I just guessed an answer and had to read M's solution to understand why it was correct.

My big problem was...

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I was too willing to believe that some of these were possible, while the puzzle was designed that there was no maybe. These statements are meant to be mutually exclusive.

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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:04 pm

kwijibo
Guest

Re: Stay Puzzly

ne0x wrote:

Cougar Draven wrote:

Well, in this case...

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Think about what the title is parodying. More specifically, the /product/. It should make a little more sense there.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Actually, in retrospect, I think you're both making it too difficult.

Not only was a over thinking this, I just guessed an answer and had to read M's solution to understand why it was correct.

My big problem was...

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I was too willing to believe that some of these were possible, while the puzzle was designed that there was no maybe. These statements are meant to be mutually exclusive.

I think I have all the statements figured out, but I still don't see any connection. What am I missing?

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:31 pm

Dont just guess
Guest

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It is simple once you figure out the one group all the others fall into place. My Biggest problem was I did not know all my geography

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:01 pm

Kwijibo
Guest

Puzzly

Dont just guess wrote:

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It is simple once you figure out the one group all the others fall into place. My Biggest problem was I did not know all my geography

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I keep seeing references to the Pacific ocean, but that isn't getting me any closer to any kind of solution.

I'm not even sure what kind of answer I am looking for...

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:24 pm

Chronos
Boot

Joined: 08 May 2011
Posts: 19

Re: Puzzly

Kwijibo wrote:

Dont just guess wrote:

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It is simple once you figure out the one group all the others fall into place. My Biggest problem was I did not know all my geography

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I keep seeing references to the Pacific ocean, but that isn't getting me any closer to any kind of solution.

I'm not even sure what kind of answer I am looking for...

Is it an anagram of the false ones or an anagram of the truth ones? The words I get don't make sense.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:59 pm

Kwijibo
Guest

Re: Puzzly

Chronos wrote:

Is it an anagram of the false ones or an anagram of the truth ones? The words I get don't make sense.

Same issue I'm having. None of the words make any sense (or are the correct answers)

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:50 pm

Red Dog
Guest

Re: Puzzly

Chronos wrote:

Kwijibo wrote:

Dont just guess wrote:

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It is simple once you figure out the one group all the others fall into place. My Biggest problem was I did not know all my geography

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

I keep seeing references to the Pacific ocean, but that isn't getting me any closer to any kind of solution.

I'm not even sure what kind of answer I am looking for...

Is it an anagram of the false ones or an anagram of the truth ones? The words I get don't make sense.

Who said it was an anagram?

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:07 pm

Kwijibo
Guest

Re: Puzzly

Red Dog wrote:

Who said it was an anagram?

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I had figured that It would be due to the capital letters that "pop" out. but I cant make any sense of it.

I dont see any pattern to the words in the excluded "Facts" or the inclusive ones aside from how I was able to determine which ones were false and which ones are true. There's a common denominator that I cant see.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:17 pm

Ninian
Boot

Joined: 02 May 2011
Posts: 21

Re: Puzzly

Kwijibo wrote:

Red Dog wrote:

Who said it was an anagram?

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I had figured that It would be due to the capital letters that "pop" out. but I cant make any sense of it.

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Actually, you just stated what the common denominator is. Try going off just that and not over thinking it.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:20 am

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