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[VIDEO] TTA - Memories
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ImitationJesus
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new here, so don't hate on me, but i saw something while watching Memories again. 13 seconds in, "you've done nothing" shows up. but if you look at the positioning of the words, there's a small code thing. it looks like 8YAY to me, and just thought it'd be something to pick up on.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:14 pm
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Wolfboy702
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Not sure if someones already said it, but the images might link in with the 54321 description, being taken from the 1st to 5th entries perhaps?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:18 pm
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morscata12
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ZorakRamone wrote:
I'm not really sure what TTA (or anyone) expects J to "do". It's not like there are any obvious clues that he's failing to follow up on, and all TTA does is post a bunch of scrambled nonsense.

The only scenario in which he has the right to be angry is if J knows a lot more than he's letting on (to us, the viewers), which would be one hell of a twist.


The change in perspective from Entry 40 to 42 was very interesting, opens up a lot of possibilities for "Jay isn't telling everyone the whole story."

In Entry 40, we can sympathize with Jay getting frustrated and heading out into the woods. It made sense to the viewer; he wanted to get some investigating done while waiting for someone that might never show up. Jay seems as proactive as someone can be in a situation where he is essentially stuck.

Yet in Entry 42, Alex's anger toward Jay also makes perfect sense. Jay wandered into trouble, all because he couldn't sit still for a few hours. Here, Jay seems childish and incapable of simply helping his friend. Although Alex's perspective is (usually) outside the narration, he was still right to be angry with Jay, and had logical reasons for being angry.

I have a feeling Jay is blind to a lot of logical in-game choices, and since he's our narrator, we never get to hear what those choices are. ToTheArk knows what they are ("messages/signs everywhere"), and is probably frustrated that Jay isn't seeing them on his own. When they are finally presented, they'll probably make a lot of sense to us (who knows, maybe ToTheArk isn't even that crazy).

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12th
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I think most of the images, at least to start, are call back to some of the earliest operator sightings. Entry 1, obviously, the concrete bathhouse structure (concrete close-ups), Alex's nighttime run from the Operator (in #4 and later in 10).

Also, What the hell is going on at 0:02 to 0:03 and 0:19 (solid vertical line, and SOMETHING smallish to the lower right of that pole (but still left of center of the frame). I'm not sure playing with the levels is going to work, there's just too much black.

Last note: There were six members of the MH crew: Alex, Jay, Brian, Sarah, Seth, Tim. If you don't count Tim/Masky (since he seems in league with the Operator), that might suggest that after the 7 month break, Jay might be the last surviving member of the crew. Bit of a stretch though.

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Mr_Magpie
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ImitationJesus wrote:
13 seconds in, "you've done nothing" shows up. but if you look at the positioning of the words, there's a small code thing.


I thought the positioning of those words looked deliberate, and looking at it again, there does appear to be something there...

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pravado
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i imagine the TTA entries take them way longer to create, and at this point i could do without them. all season they've just been creepy with no real hints as to anything.

he acts as if he wants jay to go back to alex/brians house, but when jay went all he did was gas him and film him from behind like a creep

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semifamous13
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Very loose connection, but someone else mentioned the timing between Jay's posts and TTA's responses. When saying more than time was taken, it could (again, very loosely) connect to Jay saying he never should have taken the tapes. Because he took them he lost not only time, but hope, life, and sanity to a point.
Not really sure how it could be significant, but I decided it could be open to interpretation.

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Yuki
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Randoman96 wrote:
Yuki wrote:
I can't help but feel that losing more than time has to refer to that 7-month gap.

I don't think there are any voices, though. It just sounds like noise, and people reading too far into it (like they do with backward songs).


But, those songs were actually there. And it's very clear that the noises are voices of some kind. Messing with audio is not 'looking too far into things'.

Trying to determine who TTA was in 39 based on what characters were right-handed IS looking too far into things.


I was referring to the people who turn random songs backwards and insist they hear lyrics. Messing with audio in this case is not "looking too far into things", but if some people--and in this case I'm referring to myself--can't hear voices, then something tells me it is not clear.

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McWeird007
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DonMonte wrote:
sabadark wrote:
I return again. Fear my ability to kill threads! ;D


Not this time!

Anyway, anyone feel like going through videos and seeing if they recognize that nifty door frame? I don't expect that it's just a random background for all that other important stuff on screen... I expect it was intentionally chosen.



EDIT: If it's a door frame at all.


S is for Sigma

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Sabine die Zeitmachine
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The base code in the description.
While it may seem like a countdown, what if it's something a little more?
"So much more then time has been taken".
Perhaps it's just a reference to everyone who's "gone".

Assuming that TTA is someone involved with the Marble Hornets crew originally you can remove someone from the list below, that Jay and Tim aren't being counted as taken and the fact that Alex's current location is unknown.

That leaves..
Alex, Brian, Jessica, Seth, Amy, and that other random girl I forget (Sarah?).

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HecateNight
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McWeird007 wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
sabadark wrote:
I return again. Fear my ability to kill threads! ;D


Not this time!

Anyway, anyone feel like going through videos and seeing if they recognize that nifty door frame? I don't expect that it's just a random background for all that other important stuff on screen... I expect it was intentionally chosen.



EDIT: If it's a door frame at all.


S is for Sigma


Aw man the S appears again! Very Happy Perhaps it stands for Seth? (jk. Don't hit me!) How many TTA videos did the S appear in anyway?

I feel like the shot of the bench symbolizes Jay waiting, as though he were sitting on a bench, while being stalked/watched, as the "eyes" suggest. This video almost does a quick summary of what Jay accomplished in these last two years in regards to figuring things out. Which, according to TTA is nothing but wallowing in the memories captured on the tapes.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Also, I kind of see this video as a jab at how nothing much related to MH can be accomplished given Troy and friends' other commitments with real life eating up their time for making MH.


EDIT: Am I the only one who sees the head with the Xs as symbolizing someone who has become dazed by the Operator? Upon seeing that head I thought of Jay in Return just stupefied and staring at the Operator. I'm probably wrong, but that's what came to mind.

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FeelNFine
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Slightly late to the party, but does it seem to anyone else that the eye light things are crying at the end? Just the way one of them flashes before cutting off.

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StarlitVixen
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Finally caught up after work.

After reading everyone's theories/ideas, I'll finally put in my own thoughts.

While watching the video, I thought it was really... bold of TTA. This is probably the clearest message TTA has ever done. He literally says Jay (at least, that's who he is assumed to be talking to) has done nothing with all the information he's learned throughout these two years. TTA is definitely impatient. They seem to either blame Jay because he isn't helping TTA or TTA is trying to help Jay and he's clueless.

Also, Mr_Magpie's post gave me an idea, branching off what he said. My opinion at the moments is that Masky is NOT TTA. Maybe TTA is frustrated because they keep trying to show Jay things and Masky keeps popping up and scaring Jay off.

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Aliasi
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I think the TTA videos have more significance than that to just dismiss them out of hand. I mean, look at it this way: Jay really hasn't learned very much. Imagine you never heard of the whole Slenderman meme: what has Jay actually learned?

Not very damn much, that's for sure.

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Chest Cam Avenger
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Aliasi wrote:
I think the TTA videos have more significance than that to just dismiss them out of hand. I mean, look at it this way: Jay really hasn't learned very much. Imagine you never heard of the whole Slenderman meme: what has Jay actually learned?

Not very damn much, that's for sure.


And even less, when you remove what TTA has straight-up TOLD him.

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