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uri5el
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Re: puzzly

Riveran wrote:

[Hugespoiler]

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the answer is not an anagram or typical word game. The answer will be direct from top to bottom. If you have a nonsensical word, then your conclusions are wrong as to which statements are false. Hint 3 tells you the exact order in whicn you should solve the fact groupings. Each successive group will use information gained directly from the preceeding groups to weed out the false statements. There are no Maybes. Pay attention to things like dates and quantities and similar (or identical) clams that re-appear.

[/hugespoiler] Idea

you know what? Crap. now I feel like a giant doofus. my problem all stemmed from a simple bit of logic that was nagging me but i never caught onto until your hint. my mistake snowballed and stacked up a series of incorrect assumptions. with your spoiler i got the answer in about 3 seconds and it was only in M's explanation that i found my error.

thanks for pointing at the answer and then rubbing my face in it - i obviously needed it.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:11 am

Noanymous
Guest

Re: puzzly

Cougar Draven wrote:

Anyone else get Yet Another Tie? (For bonus points, anyone else /earn/ it? I can provide video of my adorable little one.)

I was away on that day and haven't logged into TMT. Are those "certain day" seals actual puzzles or just a matter of clicking a link?

p.s. yeah, i guess a video will be ok

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:25 am

Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Re: puzzly

Noanymous wrote:

Cougar Draven wrote:

Anyone else get Yet Another Tie? (For bonus points, anyone else /earn/ it? I can provide video of my adorable little one.)

I was away on that day and haven't logged into TMT. Are those "certain day" seals actual puzzles or just a matter of clicking a link?

p.s. yeah, i guess a video will be ok

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The "puzzle" is figuring out the day. The answer is logging in on that day.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:29 am

Chronos
Boot

Joined: 08 May 2011
Posts: 19

Recursion

I got to

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"Why?", but I can't find the proper answer to that question. It's driving me insane.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:38 am

Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Re: Recursion

Chronos wrote:

I got to

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"Why?", but I can't find the proper answer to that question. It's driving me insane.

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion_(computer_science)

You may be looking for an

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algorithm

[url][/url]

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:18 pm

UncleBeard
Greenhorn

Joined: 12 May 2011
Posts: 6

Re: puzzly

uri5el wrote:

I hated this theorem. The mutually exclusive bit was pretty tough. The biggest hurtle is understanding that it doesn't matter if the "fact" is plausible. Google-ing some of the details just adds to the confusion.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:45 pm

Noanymous
Guest

Re: puzzly

Riveran wrote:

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The "puzzle" is figuring out the day. The answer is logging in on that day.

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each seal mentions the person to discover it first. Looking them up can reveal the day it was discovered on.
Doesn't seem too puzzly to just login daily

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:14 pm

Cougar Draven
Entrenched

Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Posts: 1190
Location: Potentially everywhere.

Re: puzzly

Noanymous wrote:

Riveran wrote:

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The "puzzle" is figuring out the day. The answer is logging in on that day.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

each seal mentions the person to discover it first. Looking them up can reveal the day it was discovered on.
Doesn't seem too puzzly to just login daily

It isn't. But it goes against the spirit of the site. That's brute force, and you don't gain anything by "solving" every possible solution.

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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:46 pm

Frescard
Guest

Top solution times

Does anybody else find the times of some of the top solvers a bit "unbelievable"?

I mean, LESS THAN ONE MINUTE for this week's puzzle???

Even if the method is obvious to you right away, that still means you only have about 5 seconds for each animal, to

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find its name, look it up on some reference site, find its "secret" name, count off the letters,

and to finally submit it.

I would have to see that, to believe it...

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:47 am

Cougar Draven
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Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Posts: 1190
Location: Potentially everywhere.

Re: Top solution times

Frescard wrote:

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find its name, look it up on some reference site, find its "secret" name, count off the letters,

and to finally submit it.

I would have to see that, to believe it...

Took me about ten minutes total, but I needed the hints. I agree that there are people who are somehow cheating the system.

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:08 am

Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Re: Top solution times

Cougar Draven wrote:

Frescard wrote:

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find its name, look it up on some reference site, find its "secret" name, count off the letters,

and to finally submit it.

I would have to see that, to believe it...

Took me about ten minutes total, but I needed the hints. I agree that there are people who are somehow cheating the system.

I sent an inquiry to N about this last night. I refreshed the site at 12:00:01 and by the tme it loaded, someone had already answered the theorem. It took less thant 00:00:05 for them to answer. Very shifty.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:22 am

Kronzky
Greenhorn

Joined: 04 May 2011
Posts: 3
Location: Montreal, CA

Top solution times

I can understand that for some super-fast solution times, people probably don't even read the explanation, or go through the real solution process, but they just see the possible letters, and get lucky in making a word out of it, but for others (like this week's theorem), there *are* no letters to start guessing with, so that makes these fast solutions especially suspect.

(I still don't know why people who get quick *guessed* solutions would get more points than the ones that actually went through the trouble of *solving* it, but whatever... That I could live with, but a five-second solution with no letters in sights - that smells of cheating...)

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:55 am

Riveran
Boot

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 21
Location: Lansing, Michigan

Cheatin'

I concur. The person had to have known the answer ahead of time. the 3 seconds it took to post the solution isn't even enough time to look at the puzzle images. Hell, it takes 3 seconds just to type the appropriate answer and hit enter.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:38 am

HUNTAR
Boot

Joined: 14 May 2011
Posts: 14
Location: A small town set in the middle of nowhere.

5 seconds??

I agree about some people having a way to view the theorem before 12:00 each week. The fastest I've ever solved a theorem is 5 minutes, just by sheer luck, and this week took 9 minutes, my finishing as #41 and #42...But 5 seconds? It would take me 5 seconds to type in the answer and have the solved page load. It's not physically possible, even if he guessed and got beyond lucky.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:22 pm

No Guessing here
Guest

Fast Solvers

I got this weeks puzzle in 3 minutes with no cheating. I just read the last paragraph of the puzzle from M and I knew what to do. I did not try and solve all the animals, Just every second one and the anwser was obvious to me so that is how I did it in 3 mins. But I do not believe that anyone could have possibly done it in just a few seconds

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:39 pm

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