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and now for the moment you all (might have been) waiting for: the slenderman tentacles tutorial (part 1)! Very Happy

edit: i cannot have the tutorial up any longer, for undisclosed reasons. i am very sorry, all of you! D:


Yo, cochino, I give you a green light on the tentacle tutorial. I just hope that its scary charm wont be diluted if the effect gets overused at all. Rolling Eyes


No offense, love TribeTwelve etc, but who the hell do you think you are?
You are NOT the first person to create something like a tentacle in whatever program you happen to use. Nor will you be the last. Sure, you're the only person (as far as I know) to use it in a slendy vlog but it doesn't make you the creator of all things tentacle. And telling someone not to post a tutorial just because you think you are is just completely sickening.

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No offense, love TribeTwelve etc, but who the hell do you think you are?
You are NOT the first person to create something like a tentacle in whatever program you happen to use. Nor will you be the last. Sure, you're the only person (as far as I know) to use it in a slendy vlog but it doesn't make you the creator of all things tentacle. And telling someone not to post a tutorial just because you think you are is just completely sickening.



just calm down there for a second. There's no need to hate on nimbus for this; I understand his reasoning. I just wanna apologize for the whole thing too: i don't want people to start hating cuz of me. anyways I'll be releasing the tutorial yet again. And remember nimbus, that i still haven't made part 2 where i show how to actually incorporate the tentacles into a video. And i'll take full responsibility if the effect does indeed get "overused".
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cochinosanchez wrote:
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No offense, love TribeTwelve etc, but who the hell do you think you are?
You are NOT the first person to create something like a tentacle in whatever program you happen to use. Nor will you be the last. Sure, you're the only person (as far as I know) to use it in a slendy vlog but it doesn't make you the creator of all things tentacle. And telling someone not to post a tutorial just because you think you are is just completely sickening.



just calm down there for a second. There's no need to hate on nimbus for this; I understand his reasoning. I just wanna apologize for the whole thing too: i don't want people to start hating cuz of me. anyways I'll be releasing the tutorial yet again. And remember nimbus, that i still haven't made part 2 where i show how to actually incorporate the tentacles into a video. And i'll take full responsibility if the effect does indeed get "overused".


I understand his reasoning as well, it's the way he went about "giving your video a green light" is what bothers me.

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SoulHammer wrote:
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No offense, love TribeTwelve etc, but who the hell do you think you are?
You are NOT the first person to create something like a tentacle in whatever program you happen to use. Nor will you be the last. Sure, you're the only person (as far as I know) to use it in a slendy vlog but it doesn't make you the creator of all things tentacle. And telling someone not to post a tutorial just because you think you are is just completely sickening.



just calm down there for a second. There's no need to hate on nimbus for this; I understand his reasoning. I just wanna apologize for the whole thing too: i don't want people to start hating cuz of me. anyways I'll be releasing the tutorial yet again. And remember nimbus, that i still haven't made part 2 where i show how to actually incorporate the tentacles into a video. And i'll take full responsibility if the effect does indeed get "overused".


I understand his reasoning as well, it's the way he went about "giving your video a green light" is what bothers me.


Nimbus asked Cochino to take the video down yesterday, but only until the end of Tribe Twelve. I'm not going to get into /another/ argument about how he doesn't have the "right" (which he does) to even ask for its removal, but the point is this: everything got blown out of proportion, and people are attacking Nimbus for something that I think is a rational reaction.

Who the hell is he? The writer, cameraman, director, producer, and lead actor in the only major Slenderman vlog to use animated tentacles. Thus, someone who has a vested interest in at least /asking/ to keep that knowledge limited, at least while he's currently producing.
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Cougar Draven wrote:

Who the hell is he? The writer, cameraman, director, producer, and lead actor in the only major Slenderman vlog to use animated tentacles. Thus, someone who has a vested interest in at least /asking/ to keep that knowledge limited, at least while he's currently producing.


nevertheless cougardraven, people also have a right to know how to create the tentacles because, well when slenderman was first created, he was described as having tentacles. This makes the tentacles as iconic as the whole suit get up and the lack of face. that being said, here is the tutorial again guys. USE. IT. WISELY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWf6vXkBp5s
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Cougar Draven wrote:
SoulHammer wrote:
cochinosanchez wrote:
SoulHammer wrote:


No offense, love TribeTwelve etc, but who the hell do you think you are?
You are NOT the first person to create something like a tentacle in whatever program you happen to use. Nor will you be the last. Sure, you're the only person (as far as I know) to use it in a slendy vlog but it doesn't make you the creator of all things tentacle. And telling someone not to post a tutorial just because you think you are is just completely sickening.



just calm down there for a second. There's no need to hate on nimbus for this; I understand his reasoning. I just wanna apologize for the whole thing too: i don't want people to start hating cuz of me. anyways I'll be releasing the tutorial yet again. And remember nimbus, that i still haven't made part 2 where i show how to actually incorporate the tentacles into a video. And i'll take full responsibility if the effect does indeed get "overused".


I understand his reasoning as well, it's the way he went about "giving your video a green light" is what bothers me.


Nimbus asked Cochino to take the video down yesterday, but only until the end of Tribe Twelve. I'm not going to get into /another/ argument about how he doesn't have the "right" (which he does) to even ask for its removal, but the point is this: everything got blown out of proportion, and people are attacking Nimbus for something that I think is a rational reaction.

Who the hell is he? The writer, cameraman, director, producer, and lead actor in the only major Slenderman vlog to use animated tentacles. Thus, someone who has a vested interest in at least /asking/ to keep that knowledge limited, at least while he's currently producing.


I'm quite aware who Nimbus is thanks, rhetorical question.

And no, he doesn't have the right. I don't even know why I'm arguing this considering I don't plan on using the things.

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SoulHammer wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
SoulHammer wrote:
cochinosanchez wrote:
SoulHammer wrote:


No offense, love TribeTwelve etc, but who the hell do you think you are?
You are NOT the first person to create something like a tentacle in whatever program you happen to use. Nor will you be the last. Sure, you're the only person (as far as I know) to use it in a slendy vlog but it doesn't make you the creator of all things tentacle. And telling someone not to post a tutorial just because you think you are is just completely sickening.



just calm down there for a second. There's no need to hate on nimbus for this; I understand his reasoning. I just wanna apologize for the whole thing too: i don't want people to start hating cuz of me. anyways I'll be releasing the tutorial yet again. And remember nimbus, that i still haven't made part 2 where i show how to actually incorporate the tentacles into a video. And i'll take full responsibility if the effect does indeed get "overused".


I understand his reasoning as well, it's the way he went about "giving your video a green light" is what bothers me.


Nimbus asked Cochino to take the video down yesterday, but only until the end of Tribe Twelve. I'm not going to get into /another/ argument about how he doesn't have the "right" (which he does) to even ask for its removal, but the point is this: everything got blown out of proportion, and people are attacking Nimbus for something that I think is a rational reaction.

Who the hell is he? The writer, cameraman, director, producer, and lead actor in the only major Slenderman vlog to use animated tentacles. Thus, someone who has a vested interest in at least /asking/ to keep that knowledge limited, at least while he's currently producing.


I'm quite aware who Nimbus is thanks, rhetorical question.

And no, he doesn't have the right. I don't even know why I'm arguing this considering I don't plan on using the things.


Oh, bullshit. Everyone has the right to ask something. You lot are just getting overzealous and equating "asking Cochino to make it private while the series is running" with "FORCING HIM TO REMOVE IT AND THREATENING LEGAL ACTION". Don't make me laugh, I would have had the "right" to ask Cochino the same question, and he would have had just as much reason to say yes or no.

Simply put, Nimbus's logic is sound. You may not like it, but it's been borne out time and time again. Giving the Sturgeon's Law rejects the ability to use a complicated technique with no effort on their part just makes them more likely to use it as a crutch, and replace good writing and storytelling with LOL I CAN HAZ EFFECTS. It floods the market with what amounts to cheap knockoffs, and buries the real cream of the crop under the inexorable weight of bullshit.

In short: the more people that have access to this knowledge, the less valuable it becomes, and the less effective it becomes.
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SoulHammer wrote:

I'm quite aware who Nimbus is thanks, rhetorical question.

And no, he doesn't have the right. I don't even know why I'm arguing this considering I don't plan on using the things.


your concerns are very appreciated, by the way. but yes, let us not argue so this doesn't become bigger, and then I feel worse about it!
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 		cougardraven, let's just please put a stop to the arguing; it's really starting to make me feel worse about the whole thing.
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Cougar Draven wrote:
SoulHammer wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
SoulHammer wrote:
cochinosanchez wrote:
SoulHammer wrote:


No offense, love TribeTwelve etc, but who the hell do you think you are?
You are NOT the first person to create something like a tentacle in whatever program you happen to use. Nor will you be the last. Sure, you're the only person (as far as I know) to use it in a slendy vlog but it doesn't make you the creator of all things tentacle. And telling someone not to post a tutorial just because you think you are is just completely sickening.



just calm down there for a second. There's no need to hate on nimbus for this; I understand his reasoning. I just wanna apologize for the whole thing too: i don't want people to start hating cuz of me. anyways I'll be releasing the tutorial yet again. And remember nimbus, that i still haven't made part 2 where i show how to actually incorporate the tentacles into a video. And i'll take full responsibility if the effect does indeed get "overused".


I understand his reasoning as well, it's the way he went about "giving your video a green light" is what bothers me.


Nimbus asked Cochino to take the video down yesterday, but only until the end of Tribe Twelve. I'm not going to get into /another/ argument about how he doesn't have the "right" (which he does) to even ask for its removal, but the point is this: everything got blown out of proportion, and people are attacking Nimbus for something that I think is a rational reaction.

Who the hell is he? The writer, cameraman, director, producer, and lead actor in the only major Slenderman vlog to use animated tentacles. Thus, someone who has a vested interest in at least /asking/ to keep that knowledge limited, at least while he's currently producing.


I'm quite aware who Nimbus is thanks, rhetorical question.

And no, he doesn't have the right. I don't even know why I'm arguing this considering I don't plan on using the things.


Oh, bullshit. Everyone has the right to ask something. You lot are just getting overzealous and equating "asking Cochino to make it private while the series is running" with "FORCING HIM TO REMOVE IT AND THREATENING LEGAL ACTION". Don't make me laugh, I would have had the "right" to ask Cochino the same question, and he would have had just as much reason to say yes or no.

Simply put, Nimbus's logic is sound. You may not like it, but it's been borne out time and time again. Giving the Sturgeon's Law rejects the ability to use a complicated technique with no effort on their part just makes them more likely to use it as a crutch, and replace good writing and storytelling with LOL I CAN HAZ EFFECTS. It floods the market with what amounts to cheap knockoffs, and buries the real cream of the crop under the inexorable weight of bullshit.

In short: the more people that have access to this knowledge, the less valuable it becomes, and the less effective it becomes.


Given your "sound" logic Marble Hornets could ask for all slendy vlogs to delete their content until MH is finished. And then Victor Surge could come along and tell us all to stop doing anything slendy related. Would you seriously agree with Jay if he turned round and demanded Nimbus stop making TribeTwelve because they started the whole slendy vlog thing?

I'm not going to argue anymore at cochinos request. I still don't agree with it but let's leave it at that.

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SoulHammer wrote:

Given your "sound" logic Marble Hornets could ask for all slendy vlogs to delete their content until MH is finished. And then Victor Surge could come along and tell us all to stop doing anything slendy related. Would you seriously agree with Jay if he turned round and demanded Nimbus stop making TribeTwelve because they started the whole slendy vlog thing?

I'm not going to argue anymore at cochinos request. I still don't agree with it but let's leave it at that.


thank you very much, i appreciate it! and I would have totally made that point too. Laughing
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edit: ahem...thank you

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 		If I can voice my own view of all of this....

All of the computer effects Nimbus has used in TT have been completely self-taught. Many many sleepless hours were spent in figuring out how to make that effect, and still more in implementing them in his videos.

When the Star Wars trilogy got re-mastered and re-released, they included specials revealing how they were able to do all of the amazing effects they did. I know this is a macro-analogy that I'm going to get punished for, but this is like releasing those specials in the middle of the Empire Strikes Back.

It would be one thing if somebody did the work themselves and figured out how to make the effect their own way, but this video is basically making it mass-produce-able. And we should keep in mind that I don't think Nimbus /demanded/ the videos to be taken down, but /asked/, and there's a world of difference. A person can /ask/ for a video to be taken down for a wide-variety of reasons. In this case, Nimbus just felt like the "trick" was being revealed behind his magic.

Videos have been released detailing both how he did his Observer trick as well as the tentacles -- two things that were specifically made because TT exists -- because we probably wouldn't be going after these specific effects if Nimbus didn't make them first. He's worried about copycats because.. well, wouldn't you be, if you came up with a cool way of executing a certain effect, I'd like to think you would guard it, at least for a little while. At least until you had finished whatever project you were working on at the moment.

Everyone's really emotional right now, and it looks like you're all very desperate to malign Nimbus. I can testify that what he said and did was done out of a desire to protect what he has been single-handedly working on for over a year, at great cost and through great hardship at times. A simple tutorial, released no where near the end of TribeTwelve, seems threatening to take away what makes his series unique. Because up until now, no one had put in the time and energy to figure out what he had.

Please know that whatever he did and said was out of love and protection for his own series, and I honestly don't see how anyone can hate him for that.

EDIT: I'm sorry, San. I've just been thinking about this all morning....

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 		it's all right alej. But the whole reason i did start making tutorials was BECAUSE i saw it a shame that some slender series did not have much credibility because they didn't know how to do certain effects, or increase the scare factor with said effects. I just want to be a source of helpful information is all. In the end, I just want the slender series to be scary and believable.
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 		All Nimbus wants is for people to discover their own effects themselves. It makes sense, it encourages creativity and learning programs like he did. I can see why he thinks that this tutorial may just promote bad series making just for the effect. And I also kinda agree that I don't want this to lead to an over saturation of tentacles everywhere in every developing vlog. But oh well, someone was bound to make a tutorial sometime figuring it out.

Also, how does a tentacle tutorial fit into a "Video & Audio Distortion Tutorials" thread? Tentacles are not distortion...
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