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Can we please stop talking about Skully as if it was some MAJOR IMPORTANT CHARACTER OMG when we haven't actually seen anything regarding it since the video it appeared in? </rant>

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Timur wrote:
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[Z.E.R.O.] Ghost wrote:
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oh yeah, there has to be something to that. theyve really made the point that alex is super aggressive and stoic now. alex definantly didnt want timasky telling jay anything. i honestly dont think tta is tim. seriously think hes seth. just because of alexs whole everyone is gone speech. theres a camera guy who had direct contact with the operator thats unaccounted for. that leaves tim, who we know is masky, and brian (i think thats his name) who might be skully. that"d make sense. but more importantly, if the old cast of mh is after the ark, and my theory of the ark being the grave is right, then why? unless theyre all slender proxies. hopefully that made sense to someone, im super tired and typing this from my phone hahah.


Seth and Brian I think were just unfortunate bystanders that happened to get caught in the crossfire. Neither showed any signs of slendersickness in their (albeit brief) time being shown from what I remember. I have the feeling that if they were not brought along by Alex nothing would have happened to them. Slendy just wanted them out of the way to get closer to Alex, since Alex does seem to be his primary focus throughout this whole story


To be fair, Alex never showed any Slender sickness either. I have a fairly speculative theory that you only get that kind of Slender sickness (Coughing, dehydration, headaches, ect.) if Slender Man is trying to "Masky" you. And don't get me wrong, I'm confident that besides perhaps Skully, Tim is the only Masky we've ever seen. I have an extremely speculative theory that Skully=Jay, hence Jay/Tim being "Gone," but it's really too early to guess about that, and I'm perfectly willing to accept that Skully is just a cryptic image. Also, you didn't name the whole cast, you left Sarah out, and I think Brian/Sarah/Seth may have simply been murdered. After all, unlike Jay/Tim, we haven't seen them since.


I know I'm totally missing the main point of the post, but just as a correction, Alex does get slendersickness one entry; remember, he walks in all coughing and tells everyone he's fine (I think its the entry where the shadow fades into him)


I think you may be thinking of Tim in Entry #20. The one where the shadow fades into Alex is Entry #22. The person who's filming Entry #22 also coughs in it, but that's Seth. Also since the new TTA video I've changed my mind about the post above, I don't think Tim could walk that effectively right after getting rock smashed. I think TTA is someone else, Occam's Razor tells me it's Skully, because otherwise that's 3 proxies, and while that could be the case, I think it's simpler that there's only 2. By extension, that leaves Brian, Sarah, or Seth to be TTA, since TTA had the missing audio and was obviously connected t the project, so at least one of them is not dead. I think it's Seth seeing as he was the camera man. So my logic goes Tim=Masky=/=TTA, Seth=TTA=Skully, Skully and Masky are working together (As Slender Man proxies.) Also, I always thought that Brian tried to shoot Slendy and that Slendy went "Uh, no, frig you," and tentacle stabbed him, hence the sink blood.

And @Zarggg, I just don't think they'd have something that similar to Masky appearing in an Entry, the end of season 1 no less, and just have it mean nothing or be Tim messing around. I mean it even has the eyebrows, (Or at least one seems visible, I assume there's another one and the lighting is just weird.)

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DHock513 wrote:
Timur wrote:
DHock513 wrote:
[Z.E.R.O.] Ghost wrote:
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oh yeah, there has to be something to that. theyve really made the point that alex is super aggressive and stoic now. alex definantly didnt want timasky telling jay anything. i honestly dont think tta is tim. seriously think hes seth. just because of alexs whole everyone is gone speech. theres a camera guy who had direct contact with the operator thats unaccounted for. that leaves tim, who we know is masky, and brian (i think thats his name) who might be skully. that"d make sense. but more importantly, if the old cast of mh is after the ark, and my theory of the ark being the grave is right, then why? unless theyre all slender proxies. hopefully that made sense to someone, im super tired and typing this from my phone hahah.


Seth and Brian I think were just unfortunate bystanders that happened to get caught in the crossfire. Neither showed any signs of slendersickness in their (albeit brief) time being shown from what I remember. I have the feeling that if they were not brought along by Alex nothing would have happened to them. Slendy just wanted them out of the way to get closer to Alex, since Alex does seem to be his primary focus throughout this whole story


To be fair, Alex never showed any Slender sickness either. I have a fairly speculative theory that you only get that kind of Slender sickness (Coughing, dehydration, headaches, ect.) if Slender Man is trying to "Masky" you. And don't get me wrong, I'm confident that besides perhaps Skully, Tim is the only Masky we've ever seen. I have an extremely speculative theory that Skully=Jay, hence Jay/Tim being "Gone," but it's really too early to guess about that, and I'm perfectly willing to accept that Skully is just a cryptic image. Also, you didn't name the whole cast, you left Sarah out, and I think Brian/Sarah/Seth may have simply been murdered. After all, unlike Jay/Tim, we haven't seen them since.


I know I'm totally missing the main point of the post, but just as a correction, Alex does get slendersickness one entry; remember, he walks in all coughing and tells everyone he's fine (I think its the entry where the shadow fades into him)


I think you may be thinking of Tim in Entry #20. The one where the shadow fades into Alex is Entry #22. The person who's filming Entry #22 also coughs in it, but that's Seth. Also since the new TTA video I've changed my mind about the post above, I don't think Tim could walk that effectively right after getting rock smashed. I think TTA is someone else, Occam's Razor tells me it's Skully, because otherwise that's 3 proxies, and while that could be the case, I think it's simpler that there's only 2. By extension, that leaves Brian, Sarah, or Seth to be TTA, since TTA had the missing audio and was obviously connected t the project, so at least one of them is not dead. I think it's Seth seeing as he was the camera man. So my logic goes Tim=Masky=/=TTA, Seth=TTA=Skully, Skully and Masky are working together (As Slender Man proxies.) Also, I always thought that Brian tried to shoot Slendy and that Slendy went "Uh, no, frig you," and tentacle stabbed him, hence the sink blood.

And @Zarggg, I just don't think they'd have something that similar to Masky appearing in an Entry, the end of season 1 no less, and just have it mean nothing or be Tim messing around. I mean it even has the eyebrows, (Or at least one seems visible, I assume there's another one and the lighting is just weird.)


The thing is that it was never cleared up whether it was distortion or anything but Tim screwing around; I mean its there for maybe 2 seconds, which hardly counts as a character intro.

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Timur wrote:
DHock513 wrote:
Timur wrote:
DHock513 wrote:
[Z.E.R.O.] Ghost wrote:
Cleavuz wrote:
oh yeah, there has to be something to that. theyve really made the point that alex is super aggressive and stoic now. alex definantly didnt want timasky telling jay anything. i honestly dont think tta is tim. seriously think hes seth. just because of alexs whole everyone is gone speech. theres a camera guy who had direct contact with the operator thats unaccounted for. that leaves tim, who we know is masky, and brian (i think thats his name) who might be skully. that"d make sense. but more importantly, if the old cast of mh is after the ark, and my theory of the ark being the grave is right, then why? unless theyre all slender proxies. hopefully that made sense to someone, im super tired and typing this from my phone hahah.


Seth and Brian I think were just unfortunate bystanders that happened to get caught in the crossfire. Neither showed any signs of slendersickness in their (albeit brief) time being shown from what I remember. I have the feeling that if they were not brought along by Alex nothing would have happened to them. Slendy just wanted them out of the way to get closer to Alex, since Alex does seem to be his primary focus throughout this whole story


To be fair, Alex never showed any Slender sickness either. I have a fairly speculative theory that you only get that kind of Slender sickness (Coughing, dehydration, headaches, ect.) if Slender Man is trying to "Masky" you. And don't get me wrong, I'm confident that besides perhaps Skully, Tim is the only Masky we've ever seen. I have an extremely speculative theory that Skully=Jay, hence Jay/Tim being "Gone," but it's really too early to guess about that, and I'm perfectly willing to accept that Skully is just a cryptic image. Also, you didn't name the whole cast, you left Sarah out, and I think Brian/Sarah/Seth may have simply been murdered. After all, unlike Jay/Tim, we haven't seen them since.


I know I'm totally missing the main point of the post, but just as a correction, Alex does get slendersickness one entry; remember, he walks in all coughing and tells everyone he's fine (I think its the entry where the shadow fades into him)


I think you may be thinking of Tim in Entry #20. The one where the shadow fades into Alex is Entry #22. The person who's filming Entry #22 also coughs in it, but that's Seth. Also since the new TTA video I've changed my mind about the post above, I don't think Tim could walk that effectively right after getting rock smashed. I think TTA is someone else, Occam's Razor tells me it's Skully, because otherwise that's 3 proxies, and while that could be the case, I think it's simpler that there's only 2. By extension, that leaves Brian, Sarah, or Seth to be TTA, since TTA had the missing audio and was obviously connected t the project, so at least one of them is not dead. I think it's Seth seeing as he was the camera man. So my logic goes Tim=Masky=/=TTA, Seth=TTA=Skully, Skully and Masky are working together (As Slender Man proxies.) Also, I always thought that Brian tried to shoot Slendy and that Slendy went "Uh, no, frig you," and tentacle stabbed him, hence the sink blood.

And @Zarggg, I just don't think they'd have something that similar to Masky appearing in an Entry, the end of season 1 no less, and just have it mean nothing or be Tim messing around. I mean it even has the eyebrows, (Or at least one seems visible, I assume there's another one and the lighting is just weird.)


The thing is that it was never cleared up whether it was distortion or anything but Tim screwing around; I mean its there for maybe 2 seconds, which hardly counts as a character intro.


I know, it just seemed almost like if you were ending a season, it was sort of a teaser for the new season. It just doesn't make sense to me that they'd show a new mask right at the end of the season, and have it mean absolutely nothing. I know it could be a red herring, but that just seems kinda stupid. I am not even confident that Tim was the one who filmed that, they basically have said already that Alex was the one who sent the package to Jay. I think not considering Skully as anything at all is foolish. If you look at the right-hand side of the mask, you can even see an eyebrow, a lot like Tim's mask. And now we're in the new season where we have a person clearly connected to totheark who filmed Jay while he slept, but isn't Timasky. Honestly, this isn't seeming too unlikely to me.

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The Ark
What do you guys think the ark is.

Hi. I'm new to this fourm and, fourms in general, so forgive me if this is a lame topic. I was wondering if you could tell me what you think the Ark is.

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This might have been better as a response to one of the older threads, like this one.

But anyway, I kind of expect it to be something related to the origin story Alex mentions about people being tied to trees until they dehydrate, then burned. Like, maybe a descendant of a judge who sentenced people to that, or a chest containing charred bark from a tree. Although, it could be anything, since every definition of "ark" is some sort of a vessel, whether it's a boat or a chest. So I think the real question might be, what'll be inside the ark once it's found?

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I still think it's Alex. Not to say that I think Alex's middle name starts with R, but I still think it's Alex despite this. The Operator uses totheark to communicate with Jay and use him to get to Alex. It makes sense to me anyway.

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I think the Ark is an object, or maybe a place. Whatever it is, it's directly connected to whatever happened in the first place to turn the Marble Hornets production on its side. I think the Ark is either footage of the event that first connected Alex Kralie to the Operator, or is something in that footage. Whatever it is, ToTheArk thinks it can be used to protect himself from the Operator, somehow. That's why he's always pushed Jay to look through the tapes, it's why he thought Jay knew what/where the Ark was in the first season. The Ark may be the tree where the little boy was found butchered, or it may be a video of Alex visiting that place with Tim, or it may be any number of things, I don't even know anymore.

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Merged to the appropriate thread. Smile Welcome to the forum, AngryDeepground! There are a bunch of good Ark theories in this here thread, they're certainly worth a read.

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Salkovich wrote:
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The Ark is through the whole Marble Hornets series though... Not just season 2 :S


This is true. BUT the Season 2 Discussion thread is designed to be a thread to discuss EVERYTHING while Season 2 is going on. We've discussed the nature of the Operator, TTA, etc. ALL things that happen in Season 1 and 2.

That's where you need to be.


shut up

no seriously

shut up

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If I'm going to guess, and to back away from the flaming, it would be that the Ark is something that Jay himself located and then subsequently forgot during the original MH production or investigation. Whatever it is, it was something that allowed him to escape somewhat unscathed until he started up the new investigation. I mention Jay, since episodes of TTA filming Jay (as seen in "Exit") began all the way back in 2006 during the MH production.

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Zarggg wrote:
Can we please stop talking about Skully as if it was some MAJOR IMPORTANT CHARACTER OMG when we haven't actually seen anything regarding it since the video it appeared in? </rant>

Brian hasn't been acknowledged since season 1 but je's still considered relevant. Just saying; your argument applies to multiple characters people do or don't care about.

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12th wrote:
If I'm going to guess, and to back away from the flaming, it would be that the Ark is something that Jay himself located and then subsequently forgot during the original MH production or investigation. Whatever it is, it was something that allowed him to escape somewhat unscathed until he started up the new investigation. I mention Jay, since episodes of TTA filming Jay (as seen in "Exit") began all the way back in 2006 during the MH production.


I like this idea ^.^ it would explain why such an.... unintelligent person like Jay is so important in this series. Like why doesn't TTA just break into Jay's room and steal all of his footage and get someone else to figure this out? Why is Jay so pertinent to the story? He has to have known something, forgotten something...

I also really like the idea that someone said the "ark" is a "sugar bowl". I really love the series of unfortunate events.

I'm not sure if I can get behind the whole Tim = TTA theory though. I think 41 disproved that. i won't get into that here.

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I think the ark is:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
A toy gun that, when fired, shoots a scroll that unravels to reveal the word 'bang' in big bold lettering. That's Slendy's weakness, you know.


EDIT: 69th post! I gigglesnorted. :3

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pinkee808 wrote:
12th wrote:
If I'm going to guess, and to back away from the flaming, it would be that the Ark is something that Jay himself located and then subsequently forgot during the original MH production or investigation. Whatever it is, it was something that allowed him to escape somewhat unscathed until he started up the new investigation. I mention Jay, since episodes of TTA filming Jay (as seen in "Exit") began all the way back in 2006 during the MH production.


I like this idea ^.^ it would explain why such an.... unintelligent person like Jay is so important in this series. Like why doesn't TTA just break into Jay's room and steal all of his footage and get someone else to figure this out? Why is Jay so pertinent to the story? He has to have known something, forgotten something...

I also really like the idea that someone said the "ark" is a "sugar bowl". I really love the series of unfortunate events.

I'm not sure if I can get behind the whole Tim = TTA theory though. I think 41 disproved that. i won't get into that here.


I would really hate if the "ark" was a "sugar bowl" because at the end of A Series of Unfortunate Events, nothing is resolved. Nothing is figured out. Not even a hint. At least, that's what I remembered when I finished it. I was severely disappointed. :/
I want some answers, but I don't want all the mystery gone...

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