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[LOCKED] [TRAILHEAD?] 8-3-11
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LastSasquatch
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We've just discovered real proof that in the first leaked diagram, the 4th letter of the first word is in fact C, and not D. Everyone could see it looked like a C, but Cont. Throw Stone didn't make any sense. That was until we realised that the title of the image, view6ProgessSTC.png, contains an initialism for the title of the diagram. STC stands for Stone Throw Cont., cont. clearly being an abbreviation for something (current theories are contraption or container), which also explains the full stop.

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i've only ever known cont to be an abbreviation for 'continue'. Seems odd they wouldn't actually write container. Thats just me though.

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The language uses 38 symbols, including its own numerals, and is based off of English. They don't use accent marks, and "don't really" use digraphs. There is no distinction between lowercase or captial letters and we have been told that all letters are capital. In atleast one message, the associates' language has translated to English through simple substitution, and there is no reason to believe it doesn't always. They insist that any resemblence to runic symbols is purely coincidental. The associates use their language when they write messages to each other, but speak English when communicating with the public, and use English numerals to sign their names.

These are the symbols we know in no particular order, as well as the substitutions that we are aware have worked atleast once.

They've also used the symbols *, *, *, * and *, but it is not certain if these are counted as part of the 38 symbols.

It is speculated that symbol 24 (*) substitutes to M.

Additionally, they used the symbol *, which might be altogether different to *, or some kind of punctuation like an apostrophe.




EDIT: and a better copy of just the table:


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Quote:
ou got your response about who took over for 175k, he doesn't want to say who he is. Also more importantly, Belle is an actual person, who is American, and who they have contacted.


She doesn't know about what they are doing though.
There was a question answered on fs, something along the lines of:
'Does Belle know what you're planning?'

So they contacted her, know her possibly personally, shes somehow involved but she doesn't know. What in god's name are they on about?

Also, 175K HAS been reassigned. They don't lie. Nothing bad happened, he just fucked up and they decided that he's not good for the role of answering questions... and moved him to north pole to study polar bears. I dunno. but he was not harmed and he has not left.

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ifargotamenik wrote:
thirty eight symbols? what? who asked that? how did they come to that conclusion?


26 letters, 10 numbers (0-9), "." and "?"

Bams, 38 symbols.

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In before ","

That's used only in the parts that aren't coded, IE their names.

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LastSasquatch
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Mantisbot wrote:
ifargotamenik wrote:
thirty eight symbols? what? who asked that? how did they come to that conclusion?


26 letters, 10 numbers (0-9), "." and "?"

Bams, 38 symbols.

----Post Posting Edit----

In before ","

That's used only in the parts that aren't coded, IE their names.


I think it's unlikely that they would included "." and "?" in their symbol count. I think if they made up 26 symbols for letters and 10 for digits they would have just said 36. I think its more likely they're refering to two madeup punctuation marks like • or the like.

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? and • seem to be good guess for the last two characters.
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didn't they say that they did use numbers? or did i just misread and answer.

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you misread an answer:

Quote:
Do you use English numerals?

No.


http://www.formspring.me/8X3X11/q/210635265226597306

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Stone Throw Contraption
A more mechanical interpretation of the leaked diagram

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8018/revised.png

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yeah, a few people have mentioned the tilting thing, why though... what is the contraption for... so strange

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heh
ingendi series

strange... also... contrived and slightly boring...

seriously? sekret codez and speshul pictures? its obvious whoever wrote the note is not fluent in the substitution code (language... haha) any more than we are...

here is what this sort of thing brings to mind:



It cant be that important if they want you to figure it out, but not too quickly... i mean these images weren't even discovered somewhere on on a different server or drawn on the underside of a table in texas that we tracked down.. they leaked them. Sounds like a kids game. An artsy emo/hipster kinda thing...

i think everyone is looking too deeply for the answer.

um8re311a

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um8re11a
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gmail

also, um8r311a is already registered on gmail
(not by me...)

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looky here

ooh...

what is this?

http://www.traaad.org/google-ntlm-124d

its a list of hash somethings... im not a crypt expert...

but this is interesting...

"124d70b484a6979e166ee44bc11e0c1e um8r311a "

umbrella

8 3 1 1

cryptography

number stations were short wave stations broadcasting encrypted messages presumably to spies

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yep
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also

8311 could also say bell in numbers

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