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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2011
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little_vicious
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This post may be kind of long, and I don't really care if you don't read it. I have a (probably way, way, off) theory about the Vincent/Vouyer situation and what he's been doing behind the scenes. I'm sticking it behind a spoiler so I don't inadvertantly trigger anyone. This may contain triggers for survivors of sexual assault.
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It's possible if, like the Coranthal Vince, present day Vince was molested, he might be cruising. It's defintely something he would hide from everyone else. And it's a potentially dangerous habit that could get him arrested. (make him "swallow Justice's sword") as it were... Also, it's something men tend to do in public parks, so there's that connection too.

I'm aware that there are probably tons of problems with this theory, and it seems pretty unlikely to me, but I thought I'd put it out there. Hope I didn't squick anyone too badly.

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Luipaard
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But what would cruising have to do with the plot of this story? What am I missing here?

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little_vicious
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Probably nothing. It's just an idea I had to get out of my very weird brain. Now that I see it in writeing it seems kind of silly.

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Luipaard
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No kidding, dude. XD I mean, I can kind of see where you're coming from, because that's not uncommon behavior in sexual abuse survivors, but 1) we have no proof that Vin in the current timeline was molested or raped and 2) the label of "Voyeur" is applied in regards to the supernatural happenings. Sadly, there is nothing supernatural or strange about sexual assault.

If that sort of thing was revealed about him (and I'm not saying it's impossible) then I would treat it as further background/characterization instead of a plot point.

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I'm kind of in awe of myself for writing that. It is way too late for this, I'm going to bed.

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qaqa
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Issues of potential sexual abuse in character backstory were broached in this series months ago, and we didn't stick it behind tags because it's not a spoiler. I think we should be able to discuss this - and cruising, which is as old as the hills - in public. It was not an issue when we first were given that letter.
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WhyYouBawwing
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I have no idea what's going on now, but like Qa is saying, shit happens.

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SolDL
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I completely agree with Mr. and/or Ms. L Vicious, discussion of such controversial topics as
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sexual abuse
and
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liberated, unrepentant homosexuality
must not be seen in the public. This sort of topic of conversation is inappropriate for the Internet. Anyone who says otherwise is a
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communist
. We must also take care to not offend any fine religious folk by mentioning
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atheism
or
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Catholicism
, and even the term Voyeur gives off terrible
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Alfred Hitchcock
vibes which are entirely contrary to wholesome, small-town America. Now if you will excuse me I am going to go to a
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pub
and drink
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liquor
and maybe if the night turns out well I'll even
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gamble
and perhaps
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get laid
.

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Ouroborus
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RaptorRed wrote:
qaqa wrote:
I think he's trying to harvest more souls in the trials. I really don't know. I still think lunaticfish's cycle theory has some basis in truth.


Hey Gang, I keep seeing references to this "Cycle Theory" and was just wondering if anyone could give me a quick Run-Down on what it entails. Seems interesting. Much appreciation.


Okay. I was hoping someone else would tackle this, but I guess it's on me.

Bear with me and my current bout of lazy.

Right, super abridged version GO

Based off of the written-in parts in the Everyman book left in box five, there is an implied storyline of a cycle involving the guys, Slendy, and Habit. It talks about three characters. The Voyeur, the Firebrand, and theoneimtoolazytoreadbackapageorcheckoutthewikibutitstotallyJeff. You can read more about it in the EMH wiki.

Anywho, somewhat of a doomsday cycle is implied...atleast for the three characters. As in, they die and then the cycle repeats itself. Further more, it's implied that the Firebrand has two personalities inside of him. We're thinking it might be Evan and Habit. The basis of this theory is the belief that Habit wants us to break the cycle(at least for himself) by finding a new host. Thus the Trials.

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Mattwan
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Let's please not get into a debate over whether or not trigger warnings are appropriate. I think at this point it's been established that providing that kind of safe space is not part of UF practice, and trying to change the culture at this point will just lead to a lot of butthurt on all sides. Use them if you like but don't expect others to follow suit, and let other people use them without ridicule even if you don't think they're necessary.

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bracko81
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One last thing I noticed relatio my Butcher Pete theory no one acknowledged.

Evan had a butchers knife in the hidden parts of the Ryan and TSOH video.

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dinorobo
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SolDL wrote:
I completely agree with Mr. and/or Ms. L Vicious, discussion of such controversial topics as
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
sexual abuse
and
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
liberated, unrepentant homosexuality
must not be seen in the public. This sort of topic of conversation is inappropriate for the Internet. Anyone who says otherwise is a
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
communist
. We must also take care to not offend any fine religious folk by mentioning
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
atheism
or
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Catholicism
, and even the term Voyeur gives off terrible
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Alfred Hitchcock
vibes which are entirely contrary to wholesome, small-town America. Now if you will excuse me I am going to go to a
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
pub
and drink
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
liquor
and maybe if the night turns out well I'll even
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
gamble
and perhaps
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
get laid
.

This.
Also, regarding what was mentioned a few posts back, has anyone asked the boys about the shed yet? It seems like it be important or at the very least a point of interest.

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Mattwan
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Protip, guys: Trigger warnings, in places where they are one of the community conventions, aren't used to hide offensive material. They're used as a heads-up to people who get flashbacks when they read about other people being assaulted. I thought Sol's piece was funny for what it was, but it's pretty far off-target.

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sje46
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Mattwan wrote:
Protip, guys: Trigger warnings, in places where they are one of the community conventions, aren't used to hide offensive material. They're used as a heads-up to people who get flashbacks when they read about other people being assaulted. I thought Sol's piece was funny for what it was, but it's pretty far off-target.
Exactly what you said. They do this on a forum I go to because there's a survivors of sexual abuse and rape there, and they do appreciate it for the reasons you said. There's nothing wrong with what L Vicious did. It has nothing to do with potentially "offending" people, and it was actually rather considerate. Many of my friends who were victims of rape/abuse would appreciate it a lot.

I know that's off-topic...just felt like I had to say it.

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SolDL
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Because the boys are going to put trigger warnings on their material as well. Considerateness be damned, that's just plain illogical considering the substance of this ARG. Shall we go ahead and have a discussion of the Hurt Locker with trigger warnings on anything that might inspire post traumatic stress in soldiers reading, too?

EDIT: How about a Priscilla, Queen of the Desert conversation for people with debilitating homophobia?

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Mattwan
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SolDL wrote:
Because the boys are going to put trigger warnings on their material as well. Considerateness be damned, that's just plain illogical considering the substance of this ARG. Shall we go ahead and have a discussion of the Hurt Locker with trigger warnings on anything that might inspire post traumatic stress in soldiers reading, too?

EDIT: How about a Priscilla, Queen of the Desert conversation for people with debilitating homophobia?


Clearly Sol was attacked by a wild trigger warning in his youth. It's OK, breathe deep, the bad old warning can't hurt you, it's just words on a screen. Here, play with the nice dingo.

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