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Who is the Seeker of the Ark?

Alex
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Tim
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Tim
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Brian
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Seth
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YamaKami
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Mr_Magpie wrote:
YamaKami wrote:
Absolutely! That is what I've always thought, and a big reason I dislike the minion theory. It's also why I dismiss theories that the Operator is TTA, or is capable of making videos, or of communicating at all.
(Also, I think I need to start reading some Lovecraft.)


Not at all meaning to derail the thread, but may I suggest one of my most favourite HP Lovecraft stories, The Colour Out Of Space - http://www.yankeeclassic.com/miskatonic/library/stacks/literature/lovecraft/novellas/colouro.htm


Oh wow, and I can read it right now. Thank you so much, I appreciate it! Very Happy

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WhyYouBawwing
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YamaKami: The Doom That Befell Sarnath is quite good too.

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slendercat
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WARNING, HUGE TL;DR AHEAD

On TTA, what we know:

TTA has access to the audio from some of the early entries which J stated had the audio stripped, footage from the period where Marble Hornets the Film was being shot that may not have been taken by Alex (the clip of J at the car), footage shot during the duration of season one (such as events at Brian's house), and footage from the period between season one and season two (such as the shot of J sleeping in the back of the car), and still images of (at least) Brian and Alex.

It is likely that s/he knows the locations and activities of J and Timasky during season one. If s/he sent J the tape in entry 26, then s/he also knew where Alex was at that point and had access to that footage.

S/he also appears to know J's YT password.

TTA has a computer, internet access, and video editing software. S/he is skilled enough to make some rather complex effects.

S/he knows binary, hex, and morse code.

TTA seems to try avoid direct involvement in the events of the series (not that this is a bad idea). S/he is more interested in J than any other member of the cast, arguably including Slendy himself. TTA's attitude toward J has become more and more antagonistic as the series has progressed.

TTA knew that J was filming himself all the time before J confessed to it. This suggests that s/he either had access to J's house and was already going there at that point (and was either Masky or very good at avoiding cameras), or was gathering information from Masky in some form. This is actually pretty interesting because if either of those things are true TTA could easily have contacted J privately rather than posting publicly available youtube videos.

J has no reason to lie about the audio being stripped from those early entries so it seems unlikely that he'd have those. There are several clips that feature J and were shot by hand that TTA uses, which J could not have filmed himself and that it does not seem likely that he would have access to. J never displays the same editing ability that TTA does. None of his work would require much more than Windows Movie Maker. It's possible that he's a wiz at video editing but we've never seem that from him. If J is TTA then he isn't doing it consciously and he has access to scores of information that he obviously doesn't the rest of the time.

Alex gave the tapes from the filming of Marble Hornets to J and seemingly attempted to forget everything that happened during that period and live a normal life. His aversion to cameras shown in entry 26 would suggest that he just wouldn't have done some of the filming TTA did. If we assume that Hoody is TTA then it strains credibility to say that TTA is Alex unless you assume that serious teleport hacks were involved. If Alex is TTA he would also need other sources of information and it would also go against many of the things we know about him, and if Alex=TTA=Hoody then I call shenanigans.

Timasky is obviously very interested in J just as TTA is, and in fact during season one we all assumed that they were the same person. He knows many of the things that TTA would during season one. However, his injury early in the events between seasons one and two would probably exclude him from filming J sleeping in his car and being Hoody. It's still possible that he is TTA, but he would have to be working with someone else for what we've seen in season two.

Brian, Seth, Jessica, and Amy are only as strong candidates as they are because we don't know anything about what they were doing or their motivations, so there's not as much we can say to rule them out. Amy and Jessica were not involved in the student film. Amy acts as if she has no knowledge of the Operator at all when she encounters him in 26 as well. Jessica has some connection to Slendy but it doesn't seem that she was involved early enough. We don't really know much about Brian or Seth at all. Of the two, though, Brian was more involved in the film, and a lot of things took place at his house. He's probably the strongest candidate in the group. However, I'm not even sure we know that he's still alive.

In my mind, I think we can conclude TTA either is gathering information and resources from others or is actually multiple people. Given this, I think Masky is still a strong candidate, especially during season one. The alterations in style and tone might represent others joining our ark-seeking group. I can see Alex and Jessica as plausible, but only after the events in entry 26. Brian and/or Seth may well have been involved from the beginning. I do think we can rule out J and the Operator.

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ermac26
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I have like 3 main ideas floating around in my head.

1. TTA is Brian: He was the lead role in the Marble Hornets film project. It seems like in #17 Brian fled from the set because he somehow knew the Operator was in their presence while the others didn't, which essentially gives him a type of specialness. Also, in the TTA video Addition, his name is drug out much more than Alex's (I don't know, I thought that was like his way of saying "I'm Brian!")

2. TTA is Alex: Would explain enttry #37, in the sense that it's about Alex and is very TTA esque.. along with the select TTA vids that contain original footage from MH production (as in Advocate). Also, during the first few seconds of Warning, it reads "The following are raw footage excerpts from Alex Kralie" (I don't know, I thought that was like his way of saying "I'm Alex!!")

3. TTA is both.

4. TTA is the Operator..sort of: I'm not joking. But I know what you're thinking "Slenderman has socks for hands, how could it use a keyboard, let alone upload a YouTube video? How are it's skills at editing so advanced?". Try this: He gets Alex, Brian, Tim, any one of it's minions, to do the deed that it is incapable of doing itself.

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pinkee808
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I think the main reason I believe Brian to be TTA is during most of the TTA videos it is very negative towards Alex and Timasky, not only that but it's important to note that in the "Advocate" video it's frozen on Brian's face.

from dictionary.com

Quote:
Advocate

–noun
2.
a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person, cause, etc. (usually followed by of ): an advocate of peace.
3.
a person who pleads for or in behalf of another; intercessor.
4.
a person who pleads the cause of another in a court of law.


A freeze frame of Brian on the Advocate video means to me that he is an advocate.

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Mr_Magpie
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TTA is more than one person, or to be more exact at least two people have access to the 'TTA' account. I had a post examining the evidence for this conclusion somewhere around here...

But for now, I agree that Hoody/TTA is Brian, for various reasons. One of these was actually brought up in a recent thread in which it was pointed out that someone must have known about The Operator before Alex went on his Wild and Crazy Basement Adventure and then skipped town, leaving Jay with some tapes in his closet. To reiterate, TTA must already have been in existence to some extent during the original three month filming period. Entry #13/Exit prove that this is so.

Now, unfortunately, not knowing the exact chronology of this early footage, we can only surmise that this is before Alex became completely obsessed with The Operator, and possibly around the time of Entry #20. But even at this point, our beloved future Masky was only coughing and irritable, not completely insane. Sarah was doing whatever cute girls in little shorts do when not hanging out with a bunch of dudes, Seth was manning the camera, Jay was following Alex around (I sense a pattern in their relationship), and Brian was...

Brian was eternally 'getting snacks or something', and no one seemed quite sure where he was, even in his own house. In fact, the last time we see Brian is in Entry #12, the very first time the rest of the MH crew have direct contact with The Operator. This leaves Brian and Sarah as the only unaccounted-for members of the crew at the (presumed) time of Entry #13/Exit, but Brian is unique in being the only one of the pair whose absence is continuously pointed out to the audience in a conspicuous manner. It only makes sense to conclude that Brian must make up at least one part of TTA.

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YamaKami
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Team Brian is up to 21 now? Go team! **waves a Loop of Unhappiness flag**

Mr_Magpie wrote:
To reiterate, TTA must already have been in existence to some extent during the original three month filming period. Entry #13/Exit prove that this is so.


I made a long post in the Season 2 thread a while back about Exit. My main argument there was similar - that the person who filmed Exit had to have already known what was going on. My conclusion was that Tim filmed Exit. I think Tim realized that Alex was the one being stalked, so he decided to discreetly follow Alex and Jay when they went out location hunting. He got there a little after they did, after parking his car somewhere it wouldn't be seen, and so he was closer to the parking lot when Jay returned to Alex's car. Tim had his camera out already, and so he filmed the footage that became Exit. After that I'm assuming he ran deeper into the woods to remain hidden, and perhaps tried to spy on Alex near the bathhouse.

So when did Tim become aware of the Operator and the stalking? I think it happened during #12. Up to this point, Alex still does not recognize Slendy (he thought he was human in #2) So in #12, Alex approaches the Operator as if he's a normal, tall guy. What happened next? TTA told us in the video Impurity that what happened next was important (the message "there was more"). I think this was the exact moment Alex became aware of the Operator as a malevolent, supernatural creature. From that point on, when Alex saw the Operator (#13, #4, #10, etc.), he knew that it was something dangerous, something to run from. And I'm assuming that at some point he remembered it from his childhood.

Back to #12 - IIRC, the entire cast and crew were on set that day, except for Jay. I think that everybody saw the Operator for what he is after Alex approached him. But most likely, they all had their memories wiped and either forgot the incident entirely or forgot the supernatural nature of it. All of them except for Alex and Tim.

I have never supported the idea that Tim was the one making the TTA videos. But I do think he works with TTA. The reason I believe Tim realized what was going on so early is because of his pills. If they are pills for seizures, they may afford him protection from Slendy's mind-wipes, so that when everybody else forgot about the Operator after #12, Tim did not. So either Tim went out to spy and investigate by himself, or he told Brian what he knew and Brian is the one who followed J&A and filmed Exit.

Personally, I'm leaning toward Tim being the one who started investigating. He had the most motivation because he is the one who started getting Slendersick whereas Brian simply disappeared. I think Brian was taken. Taken and held in Slendyverse where he slowly lost the ability to think and communicate coherently. When he escaped (likely thanks to the Operator's preoccupation with Jay), he collaborated with Tim to start making the videos.

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Chest Cam Avenger
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ermac26 wrote:
But I know what you're thinking "Slenderman has socks for hands, how could it use a keyboard, let alone upload a YouTube video?


Hey, if Strong Bad can type with boxing gloves on...

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^You know, that's exactly what I thought when I read that too, lo-

-DELETED!

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Holy Crap!

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Chest Cam Avenger
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YamaKami wrote:
^You know, that's exactly what I thought when I read that too, lo-

-DELETED!


"Dear 0perator,

How do you eeat ppl with no mouth? Do you abzorb them into your tentacals?

From - teh mask"

"No mouth?! What're you talking about? Just because it's not on my face, you think it's not there at all, huh? You think it's easy lifting children ten feet in the air just to eat them? Look man, I don't know what your deal is, but-"
"Oh Opoh-watoh!"

"ToTheArk?! What're you doing in here, man? I'm checking my emails!"

"I'm twying to figure out a way to cweepily tell J where to find us. Can you help me out?"

"Look man, I'm kinda busy now. Here's a baby doll and a lighter - see what you come up with."

"Cool! Thanks, Slendymint!"

"Quit calling me that. Anyways, as for you, Masky, why don't you come HERE and tell me I don't have a mouth. I'd be more than happy to murder you horribly. Uh, I mean, show you... Take it away, distortion-noise!"

*SKRBSHHZNZNT*

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Slender man has hands like biscuit dough.

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Oh god, Chest Cam Avenger. I read it all in their voices. You are the best person ever.
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Randoman96 wrote:
Oh god, Chest Cam Avenger. I read it all in their voices. You are the best person ever.


Very Happy Thank you! All my MH theories keep falling through, so I gotta contribute somehow.

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Chest Cam Avenger wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
Oh god, Chest Cam Avenger. I read it all in their voices. You are the best person ever.


Very Happy Thank you! All my MH theories keep falling through, so I gotta contribute somehow.


Sorry to derail the thread with this, but I could not resist. Also disregard my terrible Strong Bad impression.
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