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Nickjackal
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Well, I'm not sleeping for a while. Very Happy

The things I can theorize about that haven't been pinned down with certainty:

1. I do not believe that this video implies that TTA is J. I DO believe that it is likely Tim or Brian at this point. (Really, at some point they HAVE to explain what the fudge happened to Brian and Sarah. We already have a decent idea of what happened to Seth, and it wasn't good.). That's probably the part of me that believes TTA turning out to be J would be a major cop out, though, so take that for what you will.

2. The images and what I see:

You are You: Brian. The hairstyle looks the most like his to me.

But Who are You: I see a slightly gruffy looking Alex. It looks like his eye is "connected" to something, possible like a distorted pair of glasses or goggles. Could also be Tim going by the shape of the nose.

Who are You 1: I can also see Alex, maybe. Showing off too much forhead, but if that black 'blob' is his hairstyle, then I honestly dunno who it could be. I don't like looking at this image for a long period of time.

Who are You 2: Turning my head, and looking at the sideburns, I see a distressed, sad, or in pain Tim. Really, I can't see anything BUT sideburns.


Now, this seems strange, because I don't want to say that ALL of the images are Tim's. Perhaps they're pictures of how he looked in the past?

Now, here comes the 'crazy' theory:

What if the "Who are you" images aren't people we've met yet, but a fourth, fifth and sixth party? ( ToTheArk being a third party. )

The reason I think this is because of the first and second pictures, mostly. The third, I can't see anything but Tim. My brain won't let me see anything else.

But the second pic, 'But who are you' resembles a sort of mashup of facial details between Tim and Alex to me. Or a gruff Alex with his head melting. Or ToThePark if I look at it odd.

The second " image though, I have to struggle just to see Alex OR Tim. This is not someone I can attach a name or past appearance to, adding to my uneasiness at looking at it for an extended amount of time. There is a lack of familiarity with this face, and that discomforts me to where I will probably see it in my nightmares.

Perhaps ToTheArk is legitimately confused about the presence of these 'new parties/party' and is like (as we might be, come the next entry) " Woah wait, where'd YOU come from?"

The "Do I kill or do I save?" question is intriguing though. We don't know exactly who he's talking about.

So yeah, there's my Twenny cents.
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Didn't read through all the pages yet, but wanted to comment...
The picture behind the 0000's could be crash dummies?
*goes back to reading*

Edit:

Okay finally caught up.
I'll go through my first impression since nobody seemed to have gotten the same exact vibe as me...

Basically, I feel like this is TTA saying to Jay to remember who he is. Remember himself. The more I thought about it, the more I think TTA is saying, "The others lost themselves. They changed. But you haven't. And you shouldn't."

Maybe TTA think Jay has all he needs to move forward. He's trying to motivate Jay like a coach does before a game. "WHO ARE YOU?" This is the part where the team would chant their name, pumping themselves up.
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read through page 7ish and now i'm postannnnn

TTA videos have recently lead me to believe that they're either from Slendy's point of view, or include footage that Slendy has "absorbed" or at least affected.

the "you are you", "who are you" business appears to me that:

slendy haz dude #1, and is curious as to the rest of them. hasn't slendified em or whatever yet

yop.

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SchwarzeKrieger
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Gave the video a couple of re-watches.

Honestly, there is only one photograph that is NOT looking like Tim to me. But, as was said earlier, that would not make too much sense.

Looking at the shots people have posted of the image behind the zeros, I am seeing the car.

As for who this is addressed to... I am honestly thinking it's a warning to Jay in part, but like people have been saying, a muse-to-self, too, as the end suggests.

Although I do not think that Jay is totheark, I do believe he has been under some sort of influence (Entry 19?) and has, perhaps, done SOMETHING to earn a warning, which is what I have been interpreting the totheark videos to be for quite some time.

I just want to know.... where is Tim? We see him in the hotel, but in this 7-mont space... nothing, prettz much. I am thinking he's going to be making a re-appearance pretty soon here and some truth is going to be shed.

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More brain stuff

Hi there, first time poster, possibly last time poster, mostly a lurker.

I saw that we touched on the possibility of the indicated point of the brain being the angular gyrus, and I feel that is correct. At first this seemed sort of silly, but some wiki-ing brought up some unexpected results.

As far as I knew, the angular gyrus just took written words and turned them into "think goop" for processing. HOWEVER!

Quote:
"Out-of-body experiences

Recent experiments have demonstrated the possibility that stimulation of the angular gyrus is the cause of out-of-body experiences. [2] Stimulation of the angular gyrus in one experiment caused a woman to perceive a phantom existence behind her. [3] Another such experiment gave the test subject the sensation of being on the ceiling. This is attributed to a discrepancy in the actual position of the body, and the mind's perceived location of the body."


The phantom existence rings true with Slenderman himself as well as the general idea of paranoia that is so common in this ARG. The second set of bolding hits on some theories I've seen on here in regards to Masky, ToTheArk, and being controlled by Slenderman in general. Lack of understanding as to where the body is reminds me a lot of Jay's nighttime movements.

However, that last bolding opens a whole new can of worms, since everyone could be doing all of this in different places and not notice it. I think the apparition is more worth focusing on.

Could ToTheArk be a voice of reason, then? My immediate thought is that he's simply saying "You're a normal person, you could see apparitions through a simple stimulus of THIS part of your brain", but that doesn't really ring true since he appears to believe in Slenderman.

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Susil
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My thoughts.


We have a series of images with captions - after the crying headlights, there's a series of faces. It seems that TTA is either considering each individually, or even attempting to address each - don't forget anyone can see these videos, including all the characters.

1. "You are you" - I really don't know who this is from looking at it.
2. "But who are you" - As above, I think this could well be Brian.
3. "Who are you" - People have suggested Alex. Strange in that its the only one looking at the camera. The big forehead and dark mouth make me think it might be a Masky mask...
4. "Who are you" - I'd say Tim.

Firstly, the one face that is shown differently is the first. "You are you" - might this mean that TTA actually has some confidence in this person? Going with the idea that the people involved have all lost something of themselves (Tim is masked lookey, Alex takes a level in stone-cold etc) could it be that, whoever this person is, has kept their identity in spite of everything? By contrast, the others are asked who they are - perhaps this is directed at them, perhaps its driving home the importance of face 1. The second difference is the operator symbol over the eye. We've seen it over camera lenses before...

I'm going to step out and suggest face one is Jay. I keep wondering this, but what is so important about Jay to the story? Why does TTA insist on prodding him around instead of going after the Ark or whatever himself? I wonder if there is a reassuring message in here beneath all the creepy - perhaps Jay is actually the survivor, the one who is still himself. This is, of course, offset by the symbol in the eye. I'm at a loss as to what it means though.


Second thought - are these people shown a set? If we assume that they are all different faces, and that the headlights are not part of the set, then we have four people at the most. Compare this to Alex's "gone" list, which names five people (Seth, Brian, Tim, Jay & Sarah) which with himself makes six. If this TTA video does go through the MH guys, there's two missing. As far as I can tell, none of the faces look female so Sarah seems not to be included.

The other question is where do these images come from? If TTA is showing a bunch of photographs, then who took them? It might be that they are stills from video - if so, are they from video we've seen before?

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12th
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Mantisbot wrote:


I was thinking mostly along the same lines as you with this one, although I'm not sure it's a gas station. The flare could be a free-standing light at a parking lot (the park's parking lot from Entry #39?).


I have two theories on this one. One is really outside our present one, which is that this is footage of footage such as TTA frequently puts on here. I can see if I can MS Paint up what I'm seeing here.

Second: This is a response to Entry #43.
Guys, could this be footage of Alex (center right) and Alex's car (which is a mustang) when they go to Amy/Jessica's house? Footage from INSIDE the house looking OUT?

Pending edit to review #43 for landmarks.


EDIT: I don't see any real landmarks on the porch, but the porch does have a railing which would account for some of the vertical lines on the left center. Also, there is another car (blue sedan) which is on the extreme right when Alex walks up to the house. It's in the frame for a moment, but Jay's whirly-whirl camera panning makes it hard to catch.

It looks way too close to be at the distance that we're seeing the "car" image in this picture, but I'm not sure.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Also, the way that Jay seems to really TRY not to get the far right of the house into frame, I almost think this was an OOG attempt to keep that car out of speculation - since neither Jay or Alex acknowledge the blue car, and only mention being able to see the one far down on the end of the driveway. The blue car is in frame for less than a second, and Jay/Troy rips the camera off of Alex/Joseph very quickly, I think he might have been trying to avoid capturing it on film.


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Roswell
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No idea who the first and third are, but the second is Brian and the last one is definitely Tim.

Creepiest TTA entry yet - these guys are good, as if that needed assurance.

edit: wait wait wait...someone mentioned the car in the zeroes looking like a Mustang...what does Alex drive?

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Something just hit me while looking at the still pic(s)--It's definitely someone sitting in a car--but it's a backseat perspective....why is the camera person in the BACKseat?

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amrith777 wrote:
Something just hit me while looking at the still pic(s)--It's definitely someone sitting in a car--but it's a backseat perspective....why is the camera person in the BACKseat?


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Alex's car

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The car in the still pic looks VERY much like Alex's

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12th wrote:

Guys, could this be footage of Alex (center right) and Alex's car (which is a mustang) when they go to Amy/Jessica's house? Footage from INSIDE the house looking OUT?


Not from inside the house... But how about from inside the car parked in the driveway? *goes back to rewatch entry #43*

EDIT: Doesn't really check out... The car directly in front of them is at the wrong angle, and the other car to their right is facing the wrong way. I definitely think it was from the same day, though - after all, it WAS raining, and the windshield wipers are on(not that it isn't allowed to rain on two separate occasions, but hey, it's something).

Double Edit: You, who posted the spectrograph - I notice the file was located in your "J" drive. COINCIDENCE?!?!? Shocked

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So I skipped pages 12-15, and are people still suggesting that the pictures are people we know?

The first of the last three is an old man, it looks like. Even through distortion, it bears no resemblence to Tim.
The second, are you people seriously suggesting that is Alex? It could symbolize Alex, due to the glasses, but that person doesn't even appear to be the same skin color!
The third is the ONLY one I could possibly see being Tim, but still looks a tad unlikely.

As for the face at :33, it kind of looks like Jay, but the hair isn't very similar. Or it's....Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day.

My first thought when watching the video, the figure at :10 actually looks sort of like Jay, minus hair. Which is all kinds of creepy.
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The music in the background sounds somewhat like the music from Silent Snow Secret Snow. Would make sense since TTA has used it before...anyone able to confirm?

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Okay folks, new comparison theory on the zeroes image.
I'll say that even I don't necessarily feel this is the case at this point, but I've had it in my head and there are things that I still can't account for in other theories. Here's our source image and my paintup on it:



First off, please don't rely on my MS paint lines and squiggles, they are guidelines only, please refer to the source image to compare where things are and where they are suggested.

A. Is a railing or bannister or something like that. It carries on for most of the image to center.
B. Given the texture of the background object, I almost see brickwork, small areas of rectangles bordered by very hazy mortar. This makes me think of the (bloody) furnace object we saw Seth and Alex encounter in #22. I outlined some of the potential holes that we saw in that.
C. Person holding a pointer. There's a profile here, I think we're all certain of that - looks like the person is facing away from us, so we only get a bit of a outline of face and shoulder. No, I'm certain this is not the Operator, although we don't have facial features. The thing that really gets me is that he appears to be holding a long, thin object that really looks like a wand or a pointer (which is pointing at the background object).
Q: Odd object, box-like, which appears to be in the foreground and blocking view of the background field of vision. Maybe a bench, maybe machinery, no clue.
Z: Some sort of machinery? It almost looks like a propane tank to me.


Theory: This might be more of TTA's found footage, or footage of footage. Under this theory, this looks like someone who is reviewing footage of an industrial area, and is using a pointer to illustrate some background object.

The thing that really gets me on this is that the "pointer" object is pretty clearly throwing a shadow on the background object. It is muddled on my paintup, but the source image shows a long, distinct and sharply contrasted diagonal shape and below it a smaller, softly contrasted parallel shape - like a shadow. This suggests, to me, that the diagonal shape (pointer) is being backlit - such as on a projected screen.

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Again, I'm a bit more of the opinion that this is footage related to the house in #43 - but that damned shadow/backlit pointer thing is just getting me - I can't account for it.

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