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Ouroborus
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 		If Habit is a 'proxy', he's a proxy in denial.


I still think while they apparently have a somewhat recent working relationship, that Habit isn't really in the employ of Slendy.



I am a little troubled about one or two call backs in the post to the Rake creepypasta. Namely, the "he took everything' bit. Maybe HABIT has been possessing the Rake? It would easier explain some of the hired hits he's apparently made. I don't know. You'd think John would have described him as such if it was the Rake.

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Man, that really came out of nowhere. I thought it was interesting that the guy referred to Habit as "The Habit" after that first interjection. Also I don't even know what to think about slenderman torturing people to the Gorillaz. :shiver:

Oh man this reminded me of the Reservoir Dogs ear cutting scene. Totally fitting for his insanity.

Now I'm really interested in their relationship, and also who exactly is coordinating these events. And where does the Rake fit into all of this?

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 		I think what makes HABIT work for me is that he's so insistent that he is his own man, and clearly he's powerful but there's such a petulance to it and you know he's still joined at Slendy's hip. At least, I feel he is. He couldn't take out SM if he tried.
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qaqa wrote:
I think what makes HABIT work for me is that he's so insistent that he is his own man, and clearly he's powerful but there's such a petulance to it and you know he's still joined at Slendy's hip. At least, I feel he is. He couldn't take out SM if he tried.


The question/worry is: what is keeping SM in this equation? I find it hard to believe that he needs HABIT's help to find children or to dispose of their parents(if that's really something he needs to do...but it seems to be a running theme in EMH).

I wouldn't question is as much if we didn't already have evidence that Slendy can operate on his own.

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Oh, super powers? That's why we should be afraid of HABIT? Because he can break 5,000 bricks at a time with his face? Great, so he can benchpress a truck. Why should any of us give a fuck? You don't need "super powers" to fight and torture and kill. There is nothing special about this guy!

Okay, I think I've pinpointed why this post irritates me: HABIT is an inverse Canon Sue. He's overpowered and feared for no good reason, except his own say-so. He can kick dudes ten feet across a room! And rape women for three days straight! (Or was it five?) There's nothing HABIT can't do! Call today for your free HABIT! The Operator is standing by!

We don't need the EMH boys, we need to call the fucking XMen to put this guy down. Set Wolverine on the little prick.


Ugh. Sorry for being argumentative.


No, I understand what you are saying, and it's not really argumentative. You raised a good point; As with every other post made by HABIT, this might just be one of his fabricated tails (Get it, tails? I am such a card) to make himself seem like some sort of all-powerful creature to be feared by all. Assuming it is true, HABIT might not even have a 'body' to kill. What if he's just a spirit floating between bodies? Also "The Operator is standing by!" made my night.


Ha, glad I was able to make you laugh. "Fabricate tails" is pretty clever too. ;D Agreed with everything else you said, too. (I have nothing else to contribute, alas.)
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 		Honestly, I was underwhelmed by this post. It's not in the slightest shocking or anything. I agree with ol' Habby being a Canon Sue at this point, but at the same time if you count him as a 'Proxie' (agreed on how awful that term is) he could be worse.

Good for you Habit, you're such a baaad guy. We get it. But i'll grant that his 'serial killer' crimes make him seem a bit less supernatural, perhaps purposefully. Like he's representative of not our bad habit exactly, but just our overall evil. He's a supernatural evil human. And that sounds sillier upon reading it to myself, but I hope you get what I'm saying.

What's important in this post is how Slenderman is somehow, for some reason, keeping the victims mostly alive during it. We should be speculating more on that. Perhaps a gift to let Habit have more fun?

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 		Yeah, we know HABIT is a kind of dick. As such, his behaviour doesn't surprise me.

Slenderman stuff though is weird. In most of the other stories, he operates under the rule of scary, not so much the rule of sadism.

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Ouroborus wrote:
The question/worry is: what is keeping SM in this equation? I find it hard to believe that he needs HABIT's help to find children or to dispose of their parents(if that's really something he needs to do...but it seems to be a running theme in EMH).

I wouldn't question is as much if we didn't already have evidence that Slendy can operate on his own.


He can, but who's to say with what frequence? With what scope? He may or may not be bound to all sorts of rules we know nothing about, and with the interpretations of SLONDORMONS there are no concrete boundaries that say he doesn't need human agents. In point of fact they've been around since MH. Even Angel's Game was allowed to put him in a pimp hat and have him physically hurl prettyboys around willy-nilly on-camera - and they can do that because there are no rules.

Maybe HABIT was something manufactured for this kind of purpose as an enforcer; maybe he picked him up somewhere along the way, which is what I suspect happened with the Rake. I see those two characters as two sides of the same coin; the Rake appears to be primal animalism whereas HABIT is just as violent, but a schemer and plotter. Both fulfill a purpose for SM, at least as I see it. Could be wrong. I think this could have been executed horribly in-game but I think the concept has actually worked out very well because they've been very spare with it, as opposed to sending one or both HABIT and the Rake out at any and every onscreen opportunity, a la Power Rangers with the villain on the moon sending her goons out every afternoon.

And no, SM may not be a sadist, but so long as HABIT gets what he wants done who's to say he doesn't let him do what he likes to the collateral damage, like the parents?

I may be misunderstanding the "Sue" concept here but I thought that applied to protagonists. I'm not sure what I should be complaining about as per HABIT - he's always been a mysterious, conniving, seemingly omnipresent antagonist. So is Slender Man.
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 		Fair enough. But it does bring the twitter fight back into focus. If the Slender-type tweeter is infact, SM, are the guys a point of contention between the two. Or are we in the midst of a HABIT power-grab?

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 		I'd have to look back at the specifics of that bitchfight - which I always thought was a bit silly, if it was in fact SM on the other end. They could've been bickering over headspace. Whatever it was, it clearly hasn't been grounds for divorce since.
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qaqa wrote:
I may be misunderstanding the "Sue" concept here but I thought that applied to protagonists. I'm not sure what I should be complaining about as per HABIT - he's always been a mysterious, conniving, seemingly omnipresent antagonist. So is Slender Man.


That's why I called him an inverse Sue. Such definitions are flexible, and everyone understands what it means, even if not everyone agrees.
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Luipaard wrote:
qaqa wrote:
I may be misunderstanding the "Sue" concept here but I thought that applied to protagonists. I'm not sure what I should be complaining about as per HABIT - he's always been a mysterious, conniving, seemingly omnipresent antagonist. So is Slender Man.


That's why I called him an inverse Sue. Such definitions are flexible, and everyone understands what it means, even if not everyone agrees.


Well, that's more a subjective thing - I truly don't understand the line that separates 'good villain' from "Canon Sue" in this case other than a personal preference. I mean, we could call the Joker in the Batman universe a Sue, Lex Luthor to Superman, any number of recurring villains in fiction. They always come back, they're never stopped for good. And yes, they can be beaten, they have flaws - and so too it seems to me does HABIT, namely his immaturity and arrogance, which it's already been demonstrated can be silenced by the higher power. He pisses and moans at the kitchen table but we have yet to see him best the Slondormon.
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grieck wrote:
Honestly, I was underwhelmed by this post. It's not in the slightest shocking or anything. I agree with ol' Habby being a Canon Sue at this point, but at the same time if you count him as a 'Proxie' (agreed on how awful that term is) he could be worse.


We need to remember that HABIT is really writing his own canon; There's little to no evidence of anyone encountering HABIT in a corporeal form besides his own posts. Maybe this is what he wishes he was? Maybe he's jealous of Tall, Dark, and Faceless? He wants to be able to kick people 12 feet through the air or survive countless gunshot wounds, to cause the same amount of fear Slendy does, but in reality his powers might extended to possessing people and trying to go after innocents with a knife? HABIT is starting to sound like a bad fanfic author, with his main character being an idealized self insert. (Not to criticize the series, I think he is being written that way.)

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 		I think HABIT is likely telling the truth in these accounts about his superhuman qualities. But that strength hasn't kept him from being Slendy's bitch for God knows how many years, at least as I see it. He just can't open up his own little chip shop.
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qaqa wrote:
I think HABIT is likely telling the truth in these accounts about his superhuman qualities. But that strength hasn't kept him from being Slendy's bitch for God knows how many years, at least as I see it. He just can't open up his own little chip shop.


Maybe he needs to cause suffering to survive or to use these abilities. That's why he works together with Slondermon. Slonder keeps them alive, enabling him to drag out their misery, killing them only after he's wrung all of the despair out of them. Still, this wouldn't explain why Slendy is willing to waste his time keeping these people alive.

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Anyone ever beaten Amnesia: The Dark Descent? Sort of thinking along the same lines, with vitae and all.


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