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Figuring out the Multiple "ToTheArk's"
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Ikekudeyg
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Sabine die Zeitmachine wrote:
I'll just leave this here...


Looks like a blob of color to me... definitely not a mask or TV... Light hitting off the surface of a chair or some other object maybe. Or just a Blob of color and a slight distraction to the topic. Which may be multiple TTA but if she was involved the TTA (organization, group, club, whatever) and that did give something away that they sent their top hit man, Tim, to deal with her then get hit with a mag light like the pro he is ಠ_ರೃ when Tim kills you he absorbs your essence into his sideburns...


My guesses at who the diff TTA people are Brian, Tim, Seth, Jay (when he goes completely nuts and goes to sllee p), and Tim's Sideburns... A group like that (assuming its a group) would need leadership of some sort, and being crazy what better to pick than Tim's sideburns.

Seth can still be a character that never is seen in game again by having Slendy get him... again.

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That Crazy Viking
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That Crazy Viking wrote:
To put all the description together in chronological order:
//////// \\\yes\\\ /// 000000000 remember me 000 00110111 //eyes\\ again . 91 s . + failure nigh hello again are you drowning # 000-0000 c2VlIHlvdSBzYXcgeW91 YmV oaW5kIHRo ZSBjd XJ0YWlu blind NT Qz MjE = maɪnəs sɛntrɔɪd

Makes no sense. Let's try the groupings suggested earlier.

Straightforward with no/few puzzles
remember me //eyes\\91 s + failure nigh hello again memories c2VlIHlvdSBzYXcgeW91 blind maɪnəs sɛntrɔɪd

Videos using stock footage and music to send a message
. 91 .

Chaotic, puzzle-heavy videos
//////// \\\yes\\\ /// 000000000 000 00110111 are you drowning # 000-0000 YmV oaW5kIHRo ZSBjd XJ0YWlu

EDIT: Thanks to StarlitVixen and Bran Rainey for grouping/collecting info/doing stuff I don't want to.


Ok, since I'm not busy for a while, here's the base 64 decodes.

see you saw youbehind the curtain

But the NT Qz MjE ... I'm not sure what that is. Does anyone else know?

EDIT: Misspelling

EDIT 2: EUREKA! I GOT IT! The NT Qz MjE wasn't what the actual description was! The actual one was NT Qz MjE = , which decodes to 54321. There we go.

Oh, and the binary (00110111) translate to 7. It was the 7th video released by TTA.
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tarantulatook wrote:
One big thing that I've noticed is the use of the pixel-y font (looks like this: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/images/rastergot12conddisplay.gif) versus the others, like in "Messages" for example (looks like Helvetica to me, but I'm no font snob).

It seemed significant to me. I noticed this a while ago, and now this makes a lot more sense after the past few vids.


I've noticed something along the same lines as tarantulatook has posted here, there are four TTA videos that use the marble hornets entries writing; Return, Attention, Fragments and the numbers from Sidetone. The writing from Messages looks almost the same but is slightly different.
Could possibly hint that maybe Jay has posted these videos?

Whether this is true or not the latest tweets from Jay about the TTA vids looking like they're made by different people, to me has thrown Jay back into the mix as a possible TTA member, along with Tim for that matter, I mean the main argument against Jay being TTA was the fact that someone else was filming him in Exit. Now we can see that things such as what happened during the Tweetpocalyse as pointing towards his involvement. Despite Jay saying he had no idea who posted enttry #37 I've always suspected that it was him posting it while in a slendytrance.
TTA being a group that Jay is a part of also makes more sense of ''Come back'', ''Return to us'' and ''We will wait for you no more''.

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 		Seriously though, guys. My theory is correct one.

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Cleavuz wrote:
Seriously though, guys. My theory is correct one.

Uh no, your theories are theories. Not truth.

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That Crazy Viking
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Cleavuz wrote:
Seriously though, guys. My theory is correct one.


Unless you are one of the creators, no they are not.

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 		I think it's worth pointing out that the tape that Alex sent to Jay with all the crazy crap at the beginning and end was notably very totheark risque type stuff, and resembled alot of the crazy, angry, crap going everywhere category of totheark.

Edit: Entry #26, by the way.

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That Crazy Viking
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InfernoZN wrote:
I think it's worth pointing out that the tape that Alex sent to Jay with all the crazy crap at the beginning and end was notably very totheark risque type stuff, and resembled alot of the crazy, angry, crap going everywhere category of totheark.


I was going to rage at you, saying that Alex can't be TTA, but since we're arguing about the Multiple TTA theory, I'm gonna be nice.

If this theory is right, then Alex may be part of TTA. But if TTA's members wear a mask (which is what I believe when arguing this) and all are accounted for, then that means that either Alex is not part of TTA or we haven't seen his mask yet. I personally think the former is correct. I just haven't seen any hard evidence for Alex to be TTA. I'm in the Brian=TTA camp, just so ya know.

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InfernoZN wrote:
I think it's worth pointing out that the tape that Alex sent to Jay with all the crazy crap at the beginning and end was notably very totheark risque type stuff, and resembled alot of the crazy, angry, crap going everywhere category of totheark.


Damn you for beating me to this. I was going to point out that the tape received is incredibly TTA like, and since Alex has said he sent Jay the video (kind of in 36, but was unconfirmed, and later confirmed in 42) it would appear that Jay either is missing something right in front of him. Or, Alex could have made the tape that way to hide who sent it to Jay, or from Jay himself until they could meet in person.

Actually, as I was typing this, I thought (since Alex said he blacked out after the attack in 26's tape, and woke up in his apartment), maybe that's the condition the tape was in when he woke up, and just sent it on to Jay, realizing he needed help (or, for the Alex is evil theory, it was what he was told/forced to send Jay).

BTW, welcome to the forums.

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InfernoZN
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That Crazy Viking wrote:
InfernoZN wrote:
I think it's worth pointing out that the tape that Alex sent to Jay with all the crazy crap at the beginning and end was notably very totheark risque type stuff, and resembled alot of the crazy, angry, crap going everywhere category of totheark.


I was going to rage at you, saying that Alex can't be TTA, but since we're arguing about the Multiple TTA theory, I'm gonna be nice.

If this theory is right, then Alex may be part of TTA. But if TTA's members wear a mask (which is what I believe when arguing this) and all are accounted for, then that means that either Alex is not part of TTA or we haven't seen his mask yet. I personally think the former is correct. I just haven't seen any hard evidence for Alex to be TTA. I'm in the Brian=TTA camp, just so ya know.

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MorbidPuppies wrote:
InfernoZN wrote:
I think it's worth pointing out that the tape that Alex sent to Jay with all the crazy crap at the beginning and end was notably very totheark risque type stuff, and resembled alot of the crazy, angry, crap going everywhere category of totheark.


Damn you for beating me to this. I was going to point out that the tape received is incredibly TTA like, and since Alex has said he sent Jay the video (kind of in 36, but was unconfirmed, and later confirmed in 42) it would appear that Jay either is missing something right in front of him. Or, Alex could have made the tape that way to hide who sent it to Jay, or from Jay himself until they could meet in person.

Actually, as I was typing this, I thought (since Alex said he blacked out after the attack in 26's tape, and woke up in his apartment), maybe that's the condition the tape was in when he woke up, and just sent it on to Jay, realizing he needed help (or, for the Alex is evil theory, it was what he was told/forced to send Jay).

BTW, welcome to the forums.




Thanks!

I'm still on the boat that Alex is not being entirely himself, and that he's likely lying about what occured in entry 26. Though I think alot of his actions are out of desperation.

That's why I think it's possible that he's become desperate enough to nudge Jay using totheark. But who knows

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 		The stuff at the beginning of the tape was on there before Alex's girlfriend found the camera, the "Help" afterward wasn't really all that different in style from those crazy sketches Alex did. As for the mask that's visible in the beginning, I figure that's probably just Tim with a different mask. He's the only one so far we know for a fact wears a mask, and we know he's been having Operator-related problems since before the filming of Alex's Marble Hornets started. Similarly, we know totheark has been doing his/her thing since, at the absolute latest, that day Alex and J went location scouting and he or she filmed J getting those tapes out of his car. Basically I think we can account for totheark's and Alex's activities during these times well enough to regard them as seperate entities.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
The stuff at the beginning of the tape was on there before Alex's girlfriend found the camera, the "Help" afterward wasn't really all that different in style from those crazy sketches Alex did. As for the mask that's visible in the beginning, I figure that's probably just Tim with a different mask. He's the only one so far we know for a fact wears a mask, and we know he's been having Operator-related problems since before the filming of Alex's Marble Hornets started. Similarly, we know totheark has been doing his/her thing since, at the absolute latest, that day Alex and J went location scouting and he or she filmed J getting those tapes out of his car. Basically I think we can account for totheark's and Alex's activities during these times well enough to regard them as seperate entities.


Although I do agree with you that Alex is not TTA (or part of TTA), it is possible that he joined TTA sometime later.

But wait a second, who delivered the box? Was it mailed or was it personally delivered by someone, such as TTA? If TTA delivered it, then that would explain the odd footage in the beginning. But it had a return address, so... ya know what, I don't know. I'm just speculating.

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Feiticera wrote:
BranRainey wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
I also don't know about Brian, I'm still inclined to believe Tim murdered him in his home shortly before J got there the first time.

Wow, I somehow never thought of that. That's the best explanation for the bullet and still-red blood in Entry #16 that I've heard so far.


IMO the blood in the sink in Entry #16 was not caused by a gunshot as the majority of it is in the sink and there are only a few drops on the floor leading away. I find it far more likely the blood was coughed up into the sink.


Nosebleed maybe?

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Geneaux486 wrote:
The stuff at the beginning of the tape was on there before Alex's girlfriend found the camera.


Now there's a thought. This was a tape in entry 26, right? Then how does such a fast skip between scenes end up on a tape? Perhaps I misunderstand how they work, but don't the digital tapes simply record in real time? All the fast flicking between images doesn't seem a natural result of how they work.

In my limited knowledge, I can only think of a few ways it got like that...

1. The tape was recorded over many times - meaning the scenes we see are the most recent first.
2. The montage was actively put on the tape - this poses a whole load of new questions. Presumably Alex has the capabilities to record a selection of clips from a computer onto a tape, but why would he do that? This tape was sent to Jay, perhaps there is actually a specific message in the jumble before the scene.
3. Plain ol' distortion - but I don't recall any occasion where completely disperate bits of footage got mixed in together as a result of the distortion.

If the entry 26 montage-y bit was put there delibarately, then we need to know who by (TTA? We believe the sender to be Alex now) and what the message within it is.

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