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George G
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inspired by Wingboy, I decided to try cleaning up that frame as well:



(so what if it's redundant. I just enjoy cleaning stuff up)

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I haven't read through pages 14-18 yet, so excuse me if this has been mentioned already.

Alex watching the door, and having it shut for that matter, could be an indication of either the "leave the door open" theory being wrong or that it doesn't work the way we thought it did.

The theory (at least for me) is that if a door is open, The Operator must walk through it (e.g. #14), but if it is closed, he can simply teleport into the room (e.g. #44).

Jay told Jessica in #32 to leave her door open, and when she didn't, she disappeared.

Alex clearly had the door open in #14, and if this theory is true, Jay might have picked up on it. But why doesn't Alex close it in this entry?
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George G wrote:
inspired by Wingboy, I decided to try cleaning up that frame as well:



(so what if it's redundant. I just enjoy cleaning stuff up)


Actually looks to me like he's sitting cross-legged in front of his closed door (I second Randoman on it being closed), staring at it. I say cross-legged because you can see his white, socked foot under his leg (wearing shorts/boxers?) and his hands must be in his lap or in front of him, essentially. I say closed door because you can see the doorknob and it's just white space instead of seeing anything out of it.

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Randoman96 wrote:
I haven't read through pages 14-18 yet, so excuse me if this has been mentioned already.

Alex watching the door, and having it shut for that matter, could be an indication of either the "leave the door open" theory being wrong or that it doesn't work the way we thought it did.

The theory (at least for me) is that if a door is open, The Operator must walk through it (e.g. #14), but if it is closed, he can simply teleport into the room (e.g. #44).

Jay told Jessica in #32 to leave her door open, and when she didn't, she disappeared.

Alex clearly had the door open in #14, and if this theory is true, Jay might have picked up on it. But why doesn't Alex close it in this entry?

I like the way you think. Maybe you can't be taken unless Slendy teleports, and if this were a summoning, Alex might be trying to get teleported.

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Okay, sobered up, not even experiencing hangover (so happy)....

NARRATIVE-BUILDING TIME!!!

Okay, using this new data.... we seem to finally have some answers regarding the Operator Symbol, as people have mentioned. As such, I believe one person in the TTA complex (since it's becoming clear, FINALLY, that TTA is not just one person) is a shit friend. Probably more than one. And Alex might be one of those shit friends. Since the Operator symbol is intended to summon good ol' tall dark and faceless (apparently), the people who have been leaving it all over have clearly been trying to mess Jay and potentially Alex up.

I believe in the possession theory now, at least somewhat. I believe that some people in the TTA complex, though certainly not all of them, are under a certain amount of Operator control. Alex seems to be in this entry, after all. I believe that including his phone conversation with Jess, his behavior in this entry seems markedly off. However, full-on possession might not be to blame- to be covered further in the actual narrative section.

If there's no evidence, we should, though I shall not say must, assume that Alex did not legitimately come in contact with Amy. This may be related to the semi-possession thing I mentioned earlier.

Now to use these pieces, snapped into a former narrative of mine, where they finally make some sense of some of my missing pieces.

When the Operator ends up on Alex's tail during the filming of the original student movie, Alex isn't just scared shitless, he's angry. He notes that he sees the Operator symbol in a lot of places where he sees the Operator, as per Entry #13, and in the later stages of production, realizes it might be used to bring the Operator near, so that he can try and confront the Operator for some reason. That's why he's on the lookout in #1,3,4,6,8 and possibly 11 & 14. Note that this places these entries AFTER #2,5,9,12,13, and possibly 10 in any chronology that would then follow.

After he finally confronts the Operator as he wishes, he becomes part of the web of Operator influence. I would argue that this happens in #14, when Alex reacts all too cool-ly to FACEBLEED. After some time under Op-influence, perhaps including #9, Alex somehow breaks it, gives away his tapes, and moves, hoping to save himself. Later, he sees all of the things that Jay and the TTA complex are posting, and gets involved in the TTA thing, possibly posting program and advocate as per the hinted stigma in this entry (mayyybe?). As such, he learns Jay's whereabouts, though I won't pretend to know who from, and when he discovers that Tim is the one who's been trying to lead the Operator to Jay, they have an altercation of some kind, with Alex possibly taking footage of Tim and trying to warn Jay by way of TTA's "Warning." Warning can be interpreted in this light thusly-

-Introduction, fessing up on Alex's part to being part of TTA.
-A puppet, trying to warn Jay that he's become a pawn in the Operator's game.
-EYES OPEN and the mask- look out for Tim.
-STAY HOME and the mask- Don't go to find him!
-Look, I've got Tim now... but later?
-BE ALONE and the mask- Don't try to contact him!
-You're a puppet, man!
-All of these symbols have been leading to something!
-Tim is looking for you!
-Keep your camera on, be alert, watch for him!
-The Operator symbol will lead to-
-Your doom!
-I'm holding Tim off,
-But don't be a puppet anymore!
-Goodbye,
-Don't die.

However, in capturing Tim and not finishing the job, Alex gave Tim access to his and Amy's home. And Tim then plants the camera, gets Amy hurt, and Alex tries to get Jay to him, to fix things. Then, when they show up at the site, Tim is there, because of course, he's been plotting with the help of Operator control. But he wasn't counting on vengeful Alex and ROCKSMASH!

Then things fall out how they already have... and Alex finds out that the Operator is accessible in Rosswood. He tries to confront the Operator, armed this time with knowledge, but despite his best efforts, he yet again becomes under the influence of the Operator.

Otherwise, things fall out the same way as my previous narrative, with the exception that Alex is part of the TTA complex again, and that many of the things posted thus far are warnings to Jay that Alex is yet again under Operator influence.

And stuff. I'm glad to not be drunk anymore.
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TheBioGuy wrote:
*snip of the most epic post-drunk logic evar*


Bravo. I agree with you, TheBioGuy. But the sigma may of just been an upside down 2. BUUT the creators do everything for a reason, so it may as well be a sigma. If so (I think it is), then TTA is multiple shitty friends and Alex may be a part of them.[/quote]

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Somewhere in this thread someone mentioned summoning and ventured possible reasons the operator being around Alex as a child which spurred this speculation.

Our Slender friend appeared when Alex blew out the candles. When you blow out birthday candles, you're wishing for something. This has probably been thought of before, but maybe Alex wished for something and he got the Operator. But perhaps he wished for a friend, or to turn an imaginary friend real. It's quite possible Alex created the Operator on accident from his imagination.

In this entry, there was a lot of evidence that Alex summoned Slendy using the Operator symbol and other drawings relating to the Operator.

In TTA's Inquiry, there is an arrow pointing to a section of the right brain (I believe its the right). First of all, I'm not sure its true, but you always hear people saying that right brain thinkers are more IMAGINATIVE and CREATIVE. Second, after a few people did some searching, it was found that the arrow may have pointed to he Angular Gyrus.

After doing some research, the Angular Gyrus deals with SYMBOL recognition as well as metaphorical thinking. There is also some evidence that stimulating this area of the brain can cause some people to have an out-of-body experience.

Take this information as you will. I worked hard for this, and for once I feel like I truly contributed something a little worthwhile.

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Randoman96 wrote:
I haven't read through pages 14-18 yet, so excuse me if this has been mentioned already.

Alex watching the door, and having it shut for that matter, could be an indication of either the "leave the door open" theory being wrong or that it doesn't work the way we thought it did.

The theory (at least for me) is that if a door is open, The Operator must walk through it (e.g. #14), but if it is closed, he can simply teleport into the room (e.g. #44).

Jay told Jessica in #32 to leave her door open, and when she didn't, she disappeared.

Alex clearly had the door open in #14, and if this theory is true, Jay might have picked up on it. But why doesn't Alex close it in this entry?


jessica did leave the door open

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Man I really want that symbol not to be a two, but ... kinda difficult not to see it that way now. I had noticed the 1 before, but just assumed it was a line, or even a line of text which was in tiny writing.

Still, it's pretty prominent, and works within our "Wheres Waldo" theme of background clues occurring while obvious clues are also being presented.

Kinda disappointed now that it looks like I didn't get the big scoop on this entry that I thought I did.

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chikura wrote:
Our Slender friend appeared when Alex blew out the candles. When you blow out birthday candles, you're wishing for something. This has probably been thought of before, but maybe Alex wished for something and he got the Operator.


I like this theory.

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Second, after a few people did some searching, it was found that the arrow may have pointed to he Angular Gyrus.

After doing some research, the Angular Gyrus deals with SYMBOL recognition as well as metaphorical thinking. There is also some evidence that stimulating this area of the brain can cause some people to have an out-of-body experience.


I remember that post in the Inquiry thread and it really didn't get any attention at the time. However, it was the one that sounded best to me. Still, I don't have any neuro-anatomy under my belt, so I couldn't confirm if that was correct or not.

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The noise when The Operator comes on camera is totally a dial tone.

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chikura wrote:
Somewhere in this thread someone mentioned summoning and ventured possible reasons the operator being around Alex as a child which spurred this speculation.

Our Slender friend appeared when Alex blew out the candles. When you blow out birthday candles, you're wishing for something. This has probably been thought of before, but maybe Alex wished for something and he got the Operator. But perhaps he wished for a friend, or to turn an imaginary friend real. It's quite possible Alex created the Operator on accident from his imagination.

In this entry, there was a lot of evidence that Alex summoned Slendy using the Operator symbol and other drawings relating to the Operator.

In TTA's Inquiry, there is an arrow pointing to a section of the right brain (I believe its the right). First of all, I'm not sure its true, but you always hear people saying that right brain thinkers are more IMAGINATIVE and CREATIVE. Second, after a few people did some searching, it was found that the arrow may have pointed to he Angular Gyrus.

After doing some research, the Angular Gyrus deals with SYMBOL recognition as well as metaphorical thinking. There is also some evidence that stimulating this area of the brain can cause some people to have an out-of-body experience.

Take this information as you will. I worked hard for this, and for once I feel like I truly contributed something a little worthwhile.


TO was edited into the video. he appears over one of alex's family members was standing, clearly showing that he wasn't actually there. it was TTA trying to creep alex out. clearly he had not been followed since childhood, because everyone said alex "changed" when he stopped filming the movie / when he met slendy

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12th wrote:
Man I really want that symbol not to be a two, but ... kinda difficult not to see it that way now. I had noticed the 1 before, but just assumed it was a line, or even a line of text which was in tiny writing.

Still, it's pretty prominent, and works within our "Wheres Waldo" theme of background clues occurring while obvious clues are also being presented.

Kinda disappointed now that it looks like I didn't get the big scoop on this entry that I thought I did.


I don't know if it is a two. As I've been stressing in this thread, the creators do everything for a reason. It may as well be a sigma. At least this entry gives us something to do until the next one, or at least TTA's response, which better be pretty damn epic. Unfortunately, I'll be gone until next Saturday, so if it's during the week, I'm screwed for being relevant in the discussion.

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pravado wrote:
chikura wrote:
Somewhere in this thread someone mentioned summoning and ventured possible reasons the operator being around Alex as a child which spurred this speculation.

Our Slender friend appeared when Alex blew out the candles. When you blow out birthday candles, you're wishing for something. This has probably been thought of before, but maybe Alex wished for something and he got the Operator. But perhaps he wished for a friend, or to turn an imaginary friend real. It's quite possible Alex created the Operator on accident from his imagination.

In this entry, there was a lot of evidence that Alex summoned Slendy using the Operator symbol and other drawings relating to the Operator.

In TTA's Inquiry, there is an arrow pointing to a section of the right brain (I believe its the right). First of all, I'm not sure its true, but you always hear people saying that right brain thinkers are more IMAGINATIVE and CREATIVE. Second, after a few people did some searching, it was found that the arrow may have pointed to he Angular Gyrus.

After doing some research, the Angular Gyrus deals with SYMBOL recognition as well as metaphorical thinking. There is also some evidence that stimulating this area of the brain can cause some people to have an out-of-body experience.

Take this information as you will. I worked hard for this, and for once I feel like I truly contributed something a little worthwhile.


TO was edited into the video. he appears over one of alex's family members was standing, clearly showing that he wasn't actually there. it was TTA trying to creep alex out. clearly he had not been followed since childhood, because everyone said alex "changed" when he stopped filming the movie / when he met slendy


I see your point, though I'm not sure I totally agree with it. But its still possible that the entry could symbolize that Alex "wished for" the Operator or created him out of his imagination, is it not? Whether he actually did at that at the time entry 37 was filmed matters not, really.

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it clearly looks like a sigma to me, and troy/joe are known for being attentive to detail. they could have left the boxes unnumbered, adding numbers to them wouldn't help anything.

i don't see how anyone could think that's a 2 the way it's drawn.

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