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mokie
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pravado wrote:
i have never been on a forum where people have been so picky with everything. if the guy wants to abuse the shift key he has the right to do so. if it slows down how fast you can read something then you probably didn't have very good reading skills to begin with.


Calm down, little cabbage, I was just answering the question. Identifying problematic text and explaining why it's problematic are what I do for a living.

The simpler issue is that people often skip posters who play shift key games because it annoys them, or because they assume these posters aren't so bright. He's free to keep doing it, sure, but he may find folks don't read and respond as much as he'd like.

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chikura wrote:
Somewhere in this thread someone mentioned summoning and ventured possible reasons the operator being around Alex as a child which spurred this speculation.

Our Slender friend appeared when Alex blew out the candles. When you blow out birthday candles, you're wishing for something. This has probably been thought of before, but maybe Alex wished for something and he got the Operator. But perhaps he wished for a friend, or to turn an imaginary friend real. It's quite possible Alex created the Operator on accident from his imagination.

In this entry, there was a lot of evidence that Alex summoned Slendy using the Operator symbol and other drawings relating to the Operator.

In TTA's Inquiry, there is an arrow pointing to a section of the right brain (I believe its the right). First of all, I'm not sure its true, but you always hear people saying that right brain thinkers are more IMAGINATIVE and CREATIVE. Second, after a few people did some searching, it was found that the arrow may have pointed to he Angular Gyrus.

After doing some research, the Angular Gyrus deals with SYMBOL recognition as well as metaphorical thinking. There is also some evidence that stimulating this area of the brain can cause some people to have an out-of-body experience.

Take this information as you will. I worked hard for this, and for once I feel like I truly contributed something a little worthwhile.


I quite like this theory. It also adds a possible layer of guilt to Alex.

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chikura wrote:
Somewhere in this thread someone mentioned summoning and ventured possible reasons the operator being around Alex as a child which spurred this speculation.

Our Slender friend appeared when Alex blew out the candles. When you blow out birthday candles, you're wishing for something. This has probably been thought of before, but maybe Alex wished for something and he got the Operator. But perhaps he wished for a friend, or to turn an imaginary friend real. It's quite possible Alex created the Operator on accident from his imagination.

In this entry, there was a lot of evidence that Alex summoned Slendy using the Operator symbol and other drawings relating to the Operator.

In TTA's Inquiry, there is an arrow pointing to a section of the right brain (I believe its the right). First of all, I'm not sure its true, but you always hear people saying that right brain thinkers are more IMAGINATIVE and CREATIVE. Second, after a few people did some searching, it was found that the arrow may have pointed to he Angular Gyrus.

After doing some research, the Angular Gyrus deals with SYMBOL recognition as well as metaphorical thinking. There is also some evidence that stimulating this area of the brain can cause some people to have an out-of-body experience.

Take this information as you will. I worked hard for this, and for once I feel like I truly contributed something a little worthwhile.


TO was edited into the video. he appears over one of alex's family members was standing, clearly showing that he wasn't actually there. it was TTA trying to creep alex out. clearly he had not been followed since childhood, because everyone said alex "changed" when he stopped filming the movie / when he met slendy


Alex changed once The Operator starts becoming more apparent in his life. It's possible TO has been observing him with no results. I think it's more obvious that Alex as a child had something to do with The Operator precisely because an image of it was overlayed on the video. Just because he wasn't actually there doesn't mean the video can't strongly hint at something.

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just my two cents, but why would a little kid wish for a paranormal being to be his friend? he had a bunch of friends at his party. i think it was more for whoever uploaded it to freak alex/jay out and make them think they've been watched since childhood. if you want to believe the video is unedited and that slendy was there, explain why the drawn-in operator symbol appears above his face for a brief second earlier in the clip.


I had plenty of friends as a kid, but that doesn't mean I didn't have imaginary friends.

I don't know about the other poster--though he never once said that the Operator was actually there in that image, only that it's possible Alex accidentally conjured him--but I think that the drawn-in Operator symbol is saying "LOOK. YOU HAVE BEEN MARKED."

pravado wrote:
i have never been on a forum where people have been so picky with everything. if the guy wants to abuse the shift key he has the right to do so. if it slows down how fast you can read something then you probably didn't have very good reading skills to begin with.


Suggesting "hey, if you type more properly, it's a lot easier overall for everyone to read" isn't being "picky". It's being helpful.

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this. it was an overall underwhelming entry and i don't see why it took 2 weeks to create. yes i know they have lives outside of this, but this video looks like it could have been created in 2-3 hours, maybe more with adjusting the lighting and editing slendy near the end. i was expecting more considering jay said we'd be seeing stuff ramp up in a few weeks nearly a month ago. i was also pretty much expecting slendy at the end to pop up somewhere. when he parallelled masky in entry 19 i facepalmed. was anyone else at the 3 minute mark in the video going "what what what when is something going to happen this is filler"


Just wanted to address this. As a film student, I can hugely appreciate the amount of work that went into this entry. They had excellent lighting and really well done cinematography - this is high quality work right here.

On top of that, general rule of thumb is that for every 2-4 minutes of the final cut of a film, eight hours of shooting will be necessary. So this likely took a full day, if not more, to shoot. Further, given that we here on this forum will tear it apart and dissect every detail, the editing process was likely quite lengthy as to ensure that they had a solid cut.

And on top of that, it didn't take them two weeks to make it. If they released all of Marble Hornets at once, it wouldn't be nearly as engaging - this right here would be gone, and honestly? Discussing and theorizing is a great deal of the fun of the series.

Sorry, just felt the need to defend the work of fellow film students.

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 		Finally back from my vacation! I was dancing in anticipation for this video. And I finally caught up with all these pages...

After watching it for the first time, I'll type out my first thoughts.

When I saw Alex, to me it looked like he was preparing himself, not under a trance. I don't know how many people have experienced something similar, but imagine getting ready for something unpleasant. I have done something like staring into the mirror to mentally prepare myself and sitting around, waiting for time to pass by because you're too stressed or focused to do anything else. He didn't look tranced, he looked tired and almost... as if he gave up? The call to Jessica was a last ditch effort to save his friend. He didn't want Jay to come to his apartment (mentioned in #43) because he wanted to keep him away.

Which brings me to another point brought up in the Entry #43 video. There was a lot of debate whether or not he was Slendytranced or trying to attack him at the end of the video. Maybe he was trying to attack the Operator or maybe he was standing up to him. Either way, Alex obviously somehow got home.

I also agree with the symbols = summoning. Thankfully, Jay hasn't had the bright idea to try drawing them himself... yet. But why would Alex summon the Operator after he was freed from the trance (if that was the case)? If he was on the offense against him, maybe Alex has a weapon or idea that we aren't aware of. Or maybe he's given up. Or maybe where the Operator takes him is where Amy is held.

Final thoughts I have nothing to add on to: Whose house is this suppose to be? His new apartment? And I agree with the blood spitting connection to Brian's house. Also, was I the only one watching the strange distortion on the doors when waiting for Slendy to appear?

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 		I think that we have some Faustian shenanigans going on here. Alex seems to be deep in thought, and as StarlitVixen above me mentioned, as if he is preparing for something. Then he begins to draw the symbols, which we seem to agree summon the Operator.

With this in mind, I would guess that the Operator offered Alex a choice - he can save his friend by sacrificing himself in service to the Operator, or he can continue to be stalked and never save Amy. All of this was beyond the reach of the camera, perhaps in some alternate universe the Operator can teleport to.

So what we see is Alex returning home, after the Operator has given him time to think. Alex is thinking it over, pondering it in the mirror, but is still afflicted by some Slendysickness simply by being in the presence of the Operator. Eventually Alex decides to save Amy and give himself up to the Operator - and he draws the symbols. The rest of the video is Alex waiting, dreading the arrival of the Operator. He begins to drift off into sleep when Slendy appears, and takes them both away.

TL;DR:
- Faustian deal offered to Alex (possibly to save Amy, but the deal itself is flexible)
- Alex accepts, and anxiously awaits the arrival of the Operator after summoning him with symbols.

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That is definitely a believable scenario which explains why the Operator released/left Alex unharmed in the last Entry and why Alex is summoning him again.

Maybe Entry #38 will be after this, as several people have mentioned before me.

Edit: Though the thought of the Operator somehow communicating with Alex is kind of off-putting... Like, being chased by a furious, hungry tiger only to have it mew and purr and rub lovingly against your leg; Not expected and definitely a let-down from the build-up of the terror the Operator's had in MH.

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That is definitely a believable scenario which explains why the Operator released/left Alex unharmed in the last Entry and why Alex is summoning him again.

Maybe Entry #38 will be after this, as several people have mentioned before me.

Edit: Though the thought of the Operator somehow communicating with Alex is kind of off-putting... Like, being chased by a furious, hungry tiger only to have it mew and purr and rub lovingly against your leg; Not expected and definitely a let-down from the build-up of the terror the Operator's had in MH.


Communication can be scary too. Imagine the Operator teleporting Alex to some horrifying dimension, where Amy is being tortured, caged, or otherwise imprisoned. Alex can hear her screams. The Operator just stares at Alex, powerless to help Amy. He slowly lifts a finger and points at Alex, then at himself as the screams die down. Alex understands. The screams begin again as the Operator teleports Alex out of the dimension and back to the clearing.

I also think it would work thematically - the Operator hasn't really done anything to warrant terror, other than standby and watch. The paranoia is solely the product of the human characters, and I think that the Operator indirectly turning the humans against each other is exactly the kind of thing he would do. The humans create the fear and paranoia.

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 		so far we've only heard the operator "purr," even close up. i doubt alex can communicate with him.

i still am throwing a theory out there that slenderman will lead you to the "ark" if you let yourself get taken by him. in return, you get sick and lose your memory, but you will get to the ark.

i guess it's possible that amy was at the ark and alex was telling the truth. maybe alex found a way to get to the ark and get out without having his memory wiped.

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Paranoia brings terror, at least in my case. It'd be very terrifying to confront a creature who is on an entirely different language and morals as yourself because you wouldn't be able to predict how said creature would react to certain situations.

Also, though that will be terrifying in a way if that's how it happened, I doubt we'll ever get the full answer on how the Operator has Amy, if he indeed has her.

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What I want to know is why does everyone want to go to the ark?

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Paranoia brings terror, at least in my case. It'd be very terrifying to confront a creature who is on an entirely different language and morals as yourself because you wouldn't be able to predict how said creature would react to certain situations.

Also, though that will be terrifying in a way if that's how it happened, I doubt we'll ever get the full answer on how the Operator has Amy, if he indeed has her.


Oh absolutely, I agree, paranoia is a terrifying thing. But paranoia is entirely an invention of the mind. Slendy may be watching them, but that's all that he's done. His simple presence makes them paranoid, so it all starts in their heads.

I think that because of that, the idea of Slendy manipulating them not directly through something like enslavement or mind control, but through indirect means like giving them choices that exploit their own values and such would be exactly the kind of direction Marble Hornets could take.

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 		but Slendy hasn't just stood by and watched the entire time. what about entry #14 with Alex's bloody head? i dont think that was masky since he was nowhere else in the footage.

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 		well i think that the people who make up totheark have been to the ark against their will, but once they saw what was there, they want to go there again. can't even begin to think about what's actually there.

i think this season may end with jay or alex getting to the ark on their own with alex's chestcam and getting footage of it, but somehow having his mind wiped and waking up in the hotel.

makes me think tim attacking jay was moreso because tim wanted to see what was on those tapes and how to get to the ark on his own.

remember when tim was sitting in brians house and jay thought it was alex and tim charged him? this theory makes me think that he was waiting for slendy like alex was, and was attacking jay to get jay to leave. jay was attacked by slendy on the way out and had his memory wiped.

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pravado wrote:
i have never been on a forum where people have been so picky with everything. if the guy wants to abuse the shift key he has the right to do so. if it slows down how fast you can read something then you probably didn't have very good reading skills to begin with.


I mean it doesn't slow down my reading comprehension, it just bugs me. I feel like you're putting in needless effort to type like that, but if you want to, go nuts.

Now you're not capitalizing anything at all. You and shift key guy should work together to balance out your individual styles.

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I haven't read through pages 14-18 yet, so excuse me if this has been mentioned already.

Alex watching the door, and having it shut for that matter, could be an indication of either the "leave the door open" theory being wrong or that it doesn't work the way we thought it did.

The theory (at least for me) is that if a door is open, The Operator must walk through it (e.g. #14), but if it is closed, he can simply teleport into the room (e.g. #44).

Jay told Jessica in #32 to leave her door open, and when she didn't, she disappeared.

Alex clearly had the door open in #14, and if this theory is true, Jay might have picked up on it. But why doesn't Alex close it in this entry?


jessica did leave the door open


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 		it seems that jessica left her door open but jay closed his. i really don't think doors have any significance though considering the operator got inside alex's house in one of the earlier entries (the one where alex goes downstairs, misses slendy near the window, and goes back upstairs and then a breeze moves the pictures) even though all of his doors were locked.

i just rewatched entries 1-23, and i'm led to believe that tim was leading jay into the "pump room". he puts the doll at the top of the stairs pointing at the bathroom, has jay chase him and then jay time travels or something because it goes from day to night. the doll moves but is still pointed at the bathroom. jay goes in the bathroom, sees masky, distortion happens, and he wakes up in the closet. he sees the door slam shut in front of him and maskys mask hanging in front of him.


he walks in the door and ends up in the pump room after audio/video distortion -> did jay teleport here?

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