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[LOCKED] [TRAILHEAD?] 8-3-11
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Don't know if it fits in anywhere here but apparently 08/03 is International Womens day .. Question

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:24 am
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blatant
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She is in America now.

The star is related to all the constellations they have been talking about, it's also international women's day.

Her son runs the website, ' ONE SON IS HER MARKETING DIRECTOR.'

Cipher how she translated to save her life.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:27 am
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nicholasnova309
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Belle Selman

It seems like we are getting close. Belle Selman mentioned on page 64 or whatever lives in Michigan near detroit. It says she is 86. Shes on Mylife.com but you have to have a membership to view the info.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:29 am
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Plume
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Yes, "blatant" I read all that and it all seemed to be "it" to me, too. That is, until the Hitler picture came up... And I think they said on Formspring that Belle has not suffered any abuse. That is the only thing not working here. But then again, it wouldn't be the first half-truth they give us: either of the two versions, Belle Selman or the Bavarian girl, both imply that she was in fact German / Romanian and only got her American citizenship later. They just say "She's American".

I looked for photos of Belle Selman on Google Images but nothing came up.

Also... let's not forget that "Belle" si just a symbol of something. So once we decide who Belle was, we have to figure out what they're protesting for / against here and what the connections are between that subject and all the other notes than people have been cracking: the iron maiden, the weird device, stoning, stars etc.

My guess is STILL that they're trying to say that nobody has the right to judge someone else, because nobody has a completely innocent heart. Now it's only a matter of how they decide to put that into a metaphor.

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blatant wrote:
She is in America now.

The star is related to all the constellations they have been talking about, it's also international women's day.

Her son runs the website, ' ONE SON IS HER MARKETING DIRECTOR.'

Cipher how she translated to save her life.


yeah, that makes it more than coincidence

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:36 am
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momentsbeforethewind
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blatant wrote:


The star is related to all the constellations they have been talking about, it's also international women's day.



right, but how are the constellations they're talking about related to belle in the first place? that's what i'm asking--the 'belle is a holocaust survivor in a picture with hitler' theory doesn't explain anything having to do with stars, constellations, or anything like that. if 3 august is significant because of the dwarf star, why is that significant to belle?

i'll give you that the ciphering thing might be a way for us all to recreate some small part of her experience, but that seems awfully weak to me. maybe the cipher can't be broken to allow us to understand the difficulty belle had with translating? but, again, that seems a little odd.

and, again, what does any of this have to do with the stone mannequin, or with the bible verse about casting stones? (if you say 'we shouldn't cast stones,' i'll say 'why would anybody want to case stones at 6 year-old belle in the first place?')

and we still haven't touched most of what's on formspring:

1) why are they nervous?

2) how will this affect "your country"?

3) why do they insist you refer to them as 8*3*11, not 8/3/11?

4) what's the big mistake that they know they've made?

and so on and so on . . .

i do think that the german angle, and possibly the nazi angle, are important. i just don't think we've figured out everything we needed to figure out, is all i'm saying.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:38 am
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Arion
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Off-Topic:
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Remember when two people here said we would never ever figure this out and should give up? Guess what, we're close to the solution by now.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:40 am
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Plume
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By the way... if anyone finds anything on this woman that happens to be in Romanian, I can provide a decent translation for you guys Cool So far I've only been able to find general facts about the Jews in Oradea but nothing about particular cases, such as Selman's family.

Also... don't forget that in the earlier Formspring question, the guys at 8-3-11 said something like "she used to be called Belle when she was young" - not with those exact words, of course, but that's what I got from it.

It might be that "Belle" is the short version of her name or even just a nickname; so maybe searching for "Belle Selman" will not be as productive as we thought.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:47 am
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marthajones
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Just chiming in from lurkdom here, but you're wrong on the Women's Day assumption there: Another case of European/US data format mix-up.

Women's Day is on March 8, not on August 3.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:49 am
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Blatant
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http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/elt-maz.html

Altair is mentioned there, possibly others, never got into the constellations stuff.

I don't know about the picture. It was taken July 26th 1939, the caption for it is showing 'Bavarian' kids.

Significant to belle? She's a jew. Hitler was elected on august 3rd for starters.

They cast stones at her, because she was a jew, and you would think she got shit in the camps for helping the Germans. She did it to PROTECT herself (umbrella link).

1)You would be too if you created a website that has over 12 000 unique visitors a day and you were only 4 ( + the helpers).

2) there are women in every country, no?

3) preference? bible linkage?

4) half truth, hurting Belle because she never talks about her experiences saying she wouldn't be where she is today if she cried about the past, or trolling a troll.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:04 am
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punxtr
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Can everyone stop talking about Hitler, like it's the truth behind this? It's not. No one here is close, at all. If you were, it would have led to you accessing pages deeper inside the site. Until then, assume you don't know anything, so as to not embarrass yourself.

And please read the entire thread, all of you worthless guest accounts. Register, and put a permanent name to yourself. Hold your silly rantings accountable.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:10 am
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Blatant
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punxtr wrote:
Can everyone stop talking about Hitler, like it's the truth behind this? It's not. No one here is close, at all. If you were, it would have led to you accessing pages deeper inside the site. Until then, assume you don't know anything, so as to not embarrass yourself.

And please read the entire thread, all of you worthless guest accounts. Register, and put a permanent name to yourself. Hold your silly rantings accountable.


Please prove with a link then?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:13 am
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Lordtopher
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TLDR
biblical connection?



John 8: 3-11.:
3 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst 4 they said to him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. 5 Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?" 6 This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." 8 And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. 9 But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. 10 Jesus stood up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" 11 She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more."

Has there been any determination on the bible quote and this flyer that says don't throw stones?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:13 am
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Julien
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11:11

dont know if anything to do with it, but read the text. interesting, at least: http://www.1111angels.net/content/view/11/25/

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:16 am
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momentsbeforethewind
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Blatant wrote:
http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/elt-maz.html

Altair is mentioned there, possibly others, never got into the constellations stuff.


that's my point exactly--you haven't touched any of that with your theory, so your theory is incomplete at best.


Blatant wrote:
Significant to belle? She's a jew. Hitler was elected on august 3rd for starters.


yes, but there's an august 3 every year--why does it have to be 3 august 11? and you can talk about hitler without it being august 3, and there were many other significant dates during hitler's reign. so, again: why exactly on 8*3*11?

Blatant wrote:
They cast stones at her, because she was a jew, and you would think she got shit in the camps for helping the Germans. She did it to PROTECT herself (umbrella link).


this has nothing to do with the mannequin schematic.

Blatant wrote:

1)You would be too if you created a website that has over 12 000 unique visitors a day and you were only 4 ( + the helpers).


no, i wouldn't, that's the point. nothing in your theory explains why 3 august would make a person nervous if they knew the significance of the date.

Blatant wrote:
2) there are women in every country, no?


how will the women of every country 'be affected' by what happens on 3 august 2011, if all that's going to happen is that we're shown a picture of a little girl from a camp? there are pictures of little girls from camps already freely available.

Blatant wrote:
3) preference? bible linkage?


that has nothing to do with the bible. bible versus are formatted like this: (book)(chapter number):(starting verse)-(finishing verse)

and if it's a preference, why?

Blatant wrote:
4) half truth, hurting Belle because she never talks about her experiences saying she wouldn't be where she is today if she cried about the past, or trolling a troll.


that doesn't make any sense at all.

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