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[LOCKED] The Four Totheark members (Speculation)
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Re: The Mariolee Theory
We Have Seen the Faces of ToTheArk

StarlitVixen wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
Mariolee wrote:
The people in the blurred photos are members of the ToTheArk account.
We've at least identified one of them as Tim, and maybe another as Brian and Alex.

I disagree an extreme amount.


I understand why you don't, but I don't see the sense of showing off pictures of people we've never seen captioned with the words "WHO ARE YOU" when that would accomplish nothing to the story. It'd be kind of silly for TTA to question who are you to some random people when it would be much more meaningful to distort the pictures of the casts to look... quite different, to say the least, then mockingly ask who they are to prove a point.

Also, I'm not sure about this "Mariolee Theory" when it sounds like theories that have already been posted before.


^This, especially the last sentence, but all of it it in it's entirety. I don't want to be mean to a newbie, or discredit what is a good theory but it's a lot of stuff that other people have definitely said.

Daniel, I know you're really stuck on those pictures being other people, but I really think you're wrong. They're just color pictures reverted to greyscale, and then gamma-corrected to increase the contrast, and then warped. They aren't anyone other than people we've already seen. I'll pop an image of Jay or Tim or someone and see if I can't illustrate my point as well. Smile

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^But it's easily recognizable that those are all Brian. The second and third pictures of Inquiry still look like an old man and a person with dark skin to me. If you can take a picture of Alex and make him look black in b/w, I'll believe you.

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Not to mention the fact that the first picture in Inquiry looks like Billie Joe Armstrong, but that's beside the point.

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Also your fourth picture kinda made me laugh a bit. Brian's lookin' kinda derpy.

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Randoman96 wrote:
^But it's easily recognizable that those are all Brian. The second and third pictures of Inquiry still look like an old man and a person with dark skin to me. If you can take a picture of Alex and make him look black in b/w, I'll believe you.

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Not to mention the fact that the first picture in Inquiry looks like Billie Joe Armstrong, but that's beside the point.

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Also your fourth picture kinda made me laugh a bit. Brian's lookin' kinda derpy.


Challenge accepted... for tomorrow... For now, sleep. When I get back, I'm working on Inquiry pictures like nobody's business.

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Randoman96 wrote:
^But it's easily recognizable that those are all Brian. The second and third pictures of Inquiry still look like an old man and a person with dark skin to me. If you can take a picture of Alex and make him look black in b/w, I'll believe you.


I completely agree about this. My first impression of the second picture in Inquiry was of a black guy, too. It reminded me of a guy on some "Free HIV Testing" billboards we have around here. Just because he's got glasses doesn't mean it's Alex.

I don't know as the pictures (except maybe the last one) were meant to be anyone we know. TTA's used stock footage before, why not stock photos?

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sjhartsfield wrote:

I completely agree about this. My first impression of the second picture in Inquiry was of a black guy, too. It reminded me of a guy on some "Free HIV Testing" billboards we have around here. Just because he's got glasses doesn't mean it's Alex.

I don't know as the pictures (except maybe the last one) were meant to be anyone we know. TTA's used stock footage before, why not stock photos?


The CONTEXT of the whole video is the point as to why TTA wouldn't use stock pictures. If someone can logically explain what stock photos would sensibly make sense in this situation, by all means, change my mind. But I see no logic in distorting pictures of random people and saying "WHO ARE YOU" at them...

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^Posted in the Inquiry thread

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(I am still in the thought that none of the pictures are of people we know. Except maybe the last one is Tim.)

What if these are some of the people we don't know that have been effected by The Operator? That they have been taken or lost their memories?

Say, the final stage of "slendersickness" is being taken, or death. The next to last is almost all of your memories gone. These are the people who lost everything in their mind, and forgot who they were.

TTA wants Jay to hold on and not forget who he is, and try his hardest to solve this whole thing. It would go well with Memories' message of "YOU'VE DONE NOTHING".

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Randoman96 wrote:
^Posted in the Inquiry thread

Randoman96 wrote:
(I am still in the thought that none of the pictures are of people we know. Except maybe the last one is Tim.)

What if these are some of the people we don't know that have been effected by The Operator? That they have been taken or lost their memories?

Say, the final stage of "slendersickness" is being taken, or death. The next to last is almost all of your memories gone. These are the people who lost everything in their mind, and forgot who they were.

TTA wants Jay to hold on and not forget who he is, and try his hardest to solve this whole thing. It would go well with Memories' message of "YOU'VE DONE NOTHING".


I remember that post you did...
I still don't think it fits in with the series' plot so far, but I wouldn't be shocked to find they were other people. Still, TTA is very specific and focuses on Jay, telling him things and giving him clues. I don't think TTA would show him random people he's never met before but I can see your point.

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Honestly, I didn't really know what people came up with since, as I've said, I'm in Indonesia where actual working fast internet is hard to find. I just came up with it myself after seeing Inquiry and Jay's tweet while I was at a hotel with actual (working) wifi.

Also, I'm not sure if you're saying that you don't believe in the theory, StarlitVixen, or you don't like it because it pretty much just summarizes what everyone says and slaps my name on it. Because if it's the latter, the "Mariolee" theory thing was very tongue in cheek, in which the original posts had a smiley face next to them that didn't translate when I copied it to this thread. It's an accident that the name is catching on.

But I believe this theory is 100% correct. First proof is Toxicity's as well as several other's convincing picture comparisons, especially for images 2 and 4 IIRC that strongly resemble Brian and Tim, two of the people who have been most speculated as TTA. Others believe, as well as I, that the third person is Alex due to the weird glassy eyes that are probably his distorted glasses. The first was seems to be a mystery to everyone.

Secondly, the odd coincidence of the tweet to the contents of the video that I reported of originally in the theory.

Thirdly, Mr. Pibb's strong theory that says there are four TTA's, which I believe correlates to the four images.

Fourthly, the fact that TTA reflects on himself in the audio thing "Do I help or do I kill?", which could possibly point to the "Who are you?" being pointed towards TTA.

Fifthly, Marble Hornets has only once introduced a character that wasn't important, and that was ToThePark, who was used to illustrate Jay's increasing paranoia. Aside from the faceless cars on the freeway, you don't even see Jay passing people on the street unless they are important.

Heck, I remember when people freaked out that Jay passed another actual human being in Entry 27, which people couldn't believe was accidental. It turns out that person is Jessica and is important!!

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Troy knows that the people here at unfiction and somethingawful like to go crazy analyzing the videos, especially the TTA ones. So what he does is put major plot points but messes them up to the point where it is unrecognizable. Putting in random people for the pictures wouldn't throw a bone to the fans at all. It wouldn't make any sense.


Randoman, people have posted comparison pictures between the cast and the images. Why don't you post comparison pictures between the people you think they look like (I think you said a black man and an old lady?) and the images and see which comparison holds more similarities.

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@ Mariolee

To be honest, when I posted that I was having a bad day. I just don't like when people name their theories after it being similar to what everyone's said. ^^;; Though I'm not sure what exactly your theory is... are you saying Jay is part of TTA? If so, that has been said before and I agree with you. It does fit.

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StarlitVixen wrote:
@ Mariolee

To be honest, when I posted that I was having a bad day. I just don't like when people name their theories after it being similar to what everyone's said. ^^;; Though I'm not sure what exactly your theory is... are you saying Jay is part of TTA? If so, that has been said before and I agree with you. It does fit.


Maybe, if Jay is one of the four people in the pics.

This is basically the gist of what I'm saying:
In the Inquiry video, from approximately :33 -:52 IIRC, there are four blurred and distorted faces. I believe these are the faces of the members of the totheark. If we can identify who these faces are, we can finally know who totheark is.

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Oh yes, sorry., I'm a bit out of it today. Yes, I agree with what you are saying. ^^ Or at least see it's probable.

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Haha, no biggie. Also, I just saw Toxicity's comment that I'm a newbie? I joined up way before he did, have been following long before joining up, and was one of the first people to come up with the theory that the rock fell on Tim's leg which explains his limp later whereas a lot of the other people speculated it killed him or something. Newbie? Seriously?

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I see an old man in picture 2 and someone that is at least not caucasian in picture 3.

I respectfully disagree with your theory, as I see no similarities between known characters (except for the last one) and the Inquiry faces.

You also note that you think your theory is correct which is all kinds of bad, and that you think focusing on the pictures will reveal TTA's identity.

Do you really think that they're going to have a major plot point like that left up to speculation on severely distorted photos? When we know the identity of TTA/members of TTA, we will know.

As I said, I respectfully disagree. Your theory is full well capable of being correct, but for now I don't buy it.

Sorry if this came off as a little rude, I'm posting at 4:38am.
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@^ Actually, it did come off as rather rude. And you ought to stop thinking that people pursuing this theory are doing so as a personal attack on you.

As it turns out, people are allowed to have differences of opinion. It's a matter of perspective and it's part of what makes us human. Please stop acting like this theory has no merit, since at the very least Toxicity's pictures further up the page looks to be somewhat legit.

If it's a theory you don't agree with, leave it alone. I promise that people having a theory different from you won't kill you. Your "I disagree in an extreme amount" post last page sounded troll-y, and there are people on this forum who look up to you. Stop bitching, and either contribute to this theory, or, if you disagree so strongly, then, as I said before, leave it alone.
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Randoman96 wrote:
I see an old man in picture 2 and someone that is at least not caucasian in picture 3.

A lot of people don't see this though, including me. I think it'd be easier for us to understand if you posted comparison pics between the pictures of the people you think you see and the actual images(i.e. a picture of an old man compared to picture 2) just like a lot of people did for the people they saw (i.e. Tim and Brian)

I respectfully disagree with your theory, as I see no similarities between known characters (except for the last one) and the Inquiry faces.

Ok. Smile

You also note that you think your theory is correct which is all kinds of bad, and that you think focusing on the pictures will reveal TTA's identity.

I'm sorry that I think my theory is correct, but it just seems harder to defend if I think it's wrong. :p

I think I get what you're saying, and that I should be more open to other theories. That's why I want to see you back up your beliefs with comparison pics. You might be able to convince me!


Do you really think that they're going to have a major plot point like that left up to speculation on severely distorted photos? When we know the identity of TTA/members of TTA, we will know.

Yes. I do. Isn't that the point of TTA: to give us hints through puzzles and codes? It's not like they spelled it out for us either. It probably took awhile for Mr. Pibb to come up with his theory, and the distorted photos are hard to identify. It seems more probable that TTA would post something that would help Jay as opposed to just random people.

As I said, I respectfully disagree. Your theory is full well capable of being correct, but for now I don't buy it.

Sorry if this came off as a little rude, I'm posting at 4:38am.

Don't worry, no biggie! Smile


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